DEFCON Mafia 5.0: GAME OVER - NEW AMERICA FORMED

[T3]

Like whsat exactly sabout Vax felt different.

[mastina]

VOTE: Untrod Tripod
We see you, Commie fuck.

Quite possibly. He's only posted once this game and it was over three days ago. As far as I can tell his last post onsite was in this game but I trust you to be more knowledgeable about UT than I am so if you say that he's been around since then I'm inclined to believe that makes him scum.

would anyone mind fleshing out the bell divergent town/scum game for me btw?

Well basically Bell is the new Creature; as scum, he can fake effort for a short while but over long periods of time, if he's posting lots and lots and his content is good, he's town; if he's not, he's scum.

He can fake it short term but long-term it's impossible and this is shaping up to look a lot like Bell as town.

[mastina]

I'm not acting any different than the last game we just played together as both town, and you hard town read me there.

Actually, you are, and it is specifically

because

of the differences I'm seeing between that game and this one that make me think you're scum here.

Can you explain these?

mastina, can you explain your Vax read? He looked reasonably towny to me.

Well basically. Vaxkiller is trying to be town without actually being town. Last game, Vaxkiller was town without trying to be town; he was town naturally from the onset. But here he's trying to force it. He's trying to make himself look town, in a way similar to last game, without actually radiating the town energy the way he did last game.

[mastina]

PookyTheMagicalBear
gorilla
Prism
Bell
Lady Lambdadelta
Cephrir
samantha97
joqiza

mary
Equinox/The Entity
Save the Dragons
Nexus

Robert M Hunter
DeasVail



Toogeloo
Titus
DeathNote

The Church of Skitter (Alisae/Menalque)
T3
Untrod Tripod
deep-city-lights

Vaxkiller
Et Al (Skitter/SS)

In hindsight, by and large I feel like that this is actually more accurate in spite of it basically inverting my previous scumreads and scumleans categories.

[gorilla]

I refuse to believe a scum Pooky can fake this. No.
mastina, can you explain your Vax read? He looked reasonably towny to me.

I am certain he was going to play like this regardless of his role and you should not read too much into it in that regard, although I think he has been fine so far.

[Prism]

Looking at my watch

Ready to nuke a monkey and have half the table call me a fuckin moron

[Et Al]

I refuse to believe a scum Pooky can fake this.

Fake what?

-S

[Et Al]

This seems kind of superficial

Well yes.

-S

[Et Al]

Wrong again.

I mean you're welcome to explain why I "needed something to do" rather than not posting anything at that particular moment, but it seems unlikely to go anywhere.

Unless you think my entire ISO is filler, which is a very different claim.

-S

[Et Al]

It doesn't make sense that Deas would towread someone for lying about knowing what to do.

It's not necessarily a lie, though? It could just be cluelessness.

And I assumed DV's point was that cluelessness is more likely town (which I also believe).

-S

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I refuse to believe a scum Pooky can fake this. No.
mastina, can you explain your Vax read? He looked reasonably towny to me.

I am certain he was going to play like this regardless of his role and you should not read too much into it in that regard, although I think he has been fine so far.

GORILLA KNOWS THAT NO ROLE PM IS GOING TO STOP POOKY FROM RADIATING AMERICAN GOODNESS BECAUSE THERE IS NO COUNTRY ON GODS GREEN EARTH THAT POOKY LOVES MORE THAN AMERICA

[Et Al]

He has, but you apparently aren't if you think this is scumastina.

Come on, give yourself more credit than this...

-S

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

BUT MY ROLE PM IS PURE AMERICAN GOODNESS THIS TIME

UNLIKE THAT TIME ALAMASTER TURNED ME INTO A EURO SCUM AND I ALMOST WON BUT I DECIDED TO GET MODKILLED INSTEAD OF WINNING BECAUSE EUROPE SUCKS

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

NOT THAT I GOT MODKILLED ON PURPOSE THAT TIME

I DONT ACTUALLY REMEMBER IT WAS TOO LONG AGO AND I PROBABLY WAS DRUNK

[mastina]

He has, but you apparently aren't if you think this is scumastina.

Come on, give yourself more credit than this...

I've given up on giving scumastina that credit. She'll be worth that credit again when she shows she's worthy of it but for...what, three years now? It's gotta be getting to that mark by now. She's consistently failed to show worthiness of the credit.

I know that scumastina in

theory

is capable of doing everything I do in my towngames. And that, in theory, any time I am town, it COULD theoretically be a return of scumastina to her prime. It's no less true this game than any of my previous towngames; this could always be a return of scumastina to her prime, at least in theory.

But I'll believe it when I actually see it.

BUT MY ROLE PM IS PURE AMERICAN GOODNESS THIS TIME

Calling Pooky Unamerican is itself Unamerican. <3

[Et Al]

I know that scumastina in theory is capable of doing everything I do in my towngames. And that, in theory, any time I am town, it COULD theoretically be a return of scumastina to her prime. It's no less true this game than any of my previous towngames; this could always be a return of scumastina to her prime, at least in theory.

But I'll believe it when I actually see it.

Fair enough.

I don't think I've seen scum-you since what was probably your prime. So I guess I'll defer to the people who have. Skitter doesn't like you, but I don't think she's talked about that read at all; I'll see if I can touch base with her about it.

-S

[Lady Lambdadelta]

PookyTheMagicalBear
gorilla
Prism
Bell
Lady Lambdadelta
Cephrir
samantha97
joqiza

mary
Equinox/The Entity
Save the Dragons
Nexus

Robert M Hunter
DeasVail



Toogeloo
Titus
DeathNote

The Church of Skitter (Alisae/Menalque)
T3
Untrod Tripod
deep-city-lights

Vaxkiller
Et Al (Skitter/SS)

In hindsight, by and large I feel like that this is actually more accurate in spite of it basically inverting my previous scumreads and scumleans categories.

YOU CAN'T TRICK ME COMMIE SCUM

YOU CAN'T JUST PUT POOKY AT THE TOP AND GET ME TO KILL THAT AMERICAN BEAR.

VOTE: MASTINA

KILL.

[The Church of Skitter]

VOTE: mastina

[joqiza]

The joqiza-marry dynamic to me is very very strongly reminiscent of Ydrasse-pichu(Hectic), a dynamic that I don't think scum can create.

ha, this is kind of interesting

i actually happen to know ydrasse n hectic, they played together on my home site once. so i know what you're referring to. (actually ydrasse is the one who told me to sign up for this... she said the p-list was excellent.)

i'm not sure what you mean when you say "a dynamic scum can't create" though

marry and i have been playing mafia together for a long time and we can read each other pretty well. if she chooses to stick around i'll probably be able to give you a pretty good guess at her alignment, at some point. but not quite yet.

[joqiza]

also not to deflate the very spicy mastina wagon, but i'm pretty sure we don't lim anyone in defcon 4

[DeathNote]

Umm... why are you all voting? I was told I'd be nuking people, not voting them. I ain't voting shit.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Umm... why are you all voting? I was told I'd be nuking people, not voting them. I ain't voting shit.

THERE IS NO FREAKING WAY THIS PERSON COULD POSSIBLY BE A RUSSKIE SCUMBAG

[Bell]

I'm upside down on Mastina with a lot of scum huners tha I know are better than me.
I am confused. She's posting small and not really reacting to votes or suspicion thrown at her, but otherwise everything she's saying sems like her town game to some extent.
Well, maybe not, she says true stuff as scum all he time.
Would anyone actually like to explain it.

Pooky, what do you think?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I DONT NEED TO THINK ABOUT MASTINA SHE WILL SELF RESOLVE

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

IF I SOMEHOW LIVE TO THE NUKE PART OF THIS GAME WE WILL DESTROY THE ENTIRE RUSSIAN FEDERATION IN ONE GLORIOUS SALVO OF NUCLEAR HELLFIRE

IF THEY ASSASSINATE ME BEFORE WE GET THERE GOOD LUCK BELL FRIEND