Mini 2206 - Deja Vu: Perpetual MELO IV - END!

[fferyllt]

Vote Count 2-12

The Bulge

(4): Venus Fly Trap, notscience, Infinity 324, Kismet

Not_Mafia

(4): Disaster Cartel, SirCakez, Momrangal, Iverson

Infinity 324

(1): The Bulge

Not Voting

(1): Not_Mafia

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to eliminate.

Deadline: May 11, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-05-10 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

- sniped while walking the pup!
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[Kismet]

i guess if mara is scum her plan to come in and call out everyone attacking T nacho (confirmed) for getting them off scum NM but then just attacking NM the whole time seems...ill advised?

[Kismet]

unless she's playing the longest of games

[Venus Fly Trap]

I don't think suggesting you have not considered my slot as town is unreasonable given the statements you have made about me that are on the table. Both conclusions on me taking Cakez/Bulge to task for poor play are much easier mistakes to make if you are looking exclusively for reasons to slot me as scum.

ok this is fair; i think i've also made it p clear i've been having a hard time getting into this game for the past few days and it largely came from not reading as carefully as i should have, but i'm trying very hard to get back into it

i also am not 'trying to slot you as scum', i actually kinda liked your pred but am sharing what i got from you thus far
i still dislike your notsci push and i believe i explained why

[Venus Fly Trap]

i think she's very scummy and i kinda hate the way she's approaching this

i would probably want the nm flip if you want to seriously look at mom

yeah i'm aware she's not happening today

[Venus Fly Trap]

but i would like to make my thoughts known ^

[Kismet]

do you really think there is a world of nm-scum mara-scum

that seems just tough to swallow for me

[Iverson]

I still don't see how anyone reads page 5 of this game and thinks Infinity is scum.

[Venus Fly Trap]

i guess if mara is scum her plan to come in and call out everyone attacking T nacho (confirmed) for getting them off scum NM but then just attacking NM the whole time seems...ill advised?

yeah idk
i still have a very hard time townreading her tho

pedit i mean isn't the bulge like the only person calling infinity scum rn

[Iverson]

For even conceding that over something more defensive using the "pred as town" as justification I want to go back on VFT, as unfair as that is.

If you want to explain why I shouldn't have expected more investigation & engagement from notsci after reading only the daystart be my guess.

[Kismet]

i think VFT looks town throughout this entire interaction

[Venus Fly Trap]

For even conceding that over something more defensive using the "pred as town" as justification I want to go back on VFT, as unfair as that is.

If you want to explain why I shouldn't have expected more investigation & engagement from notsci after reading only the daystart be my guess.

idk what you're trying to say for the former, and for the latter, it's still mostly that your notsci push seemed unreal to me in that you were dinging him for not trying to sort nm (when it's .... nm) and that your scumread over how he was interacting with nm/sircakez seemed like you were trying to find reasons to push him because i thought his interactions with both of them around there were fine

yes i only really read daystart and bits and pieces otherwise, my apologies

~ skitter

[Iverson]

good
Kismet
Salsabil Faria
Infinity 324

good?
notscience

bad
SirCakez
Leafeon and Glaceon (beeboy, Mistyx hydra)
Not_Mafia
Brave Heart Lion
Disaster Cartel (Menalque, Ydrasse hydra)
Venus Fly Trap (skitter30, lilith2013 hydra)
The Bulge

I actually agreed with this which is absolutely fucking revolutionary

P-Edit: I'm saying read notsci's day start, where he says he's sheeping mena only to unvote/not engage, along with his page 1/2 opening about reading NM, and you should very quickly see why I pushed the slot.

It is incredibly frustrating to see you continually shut down speculation about

how another player perceives NM

because you are so consumed by your own perception of him. This doesn't even depend on me disagreeing, this is about two posts of notsci's.

[notscience]

You aren't the only one who wishes I had more time to be here. What i expected to be a 56 hour week turned into high 60s lmao

But I'm here now.

Re: Infinity, the one post of hers that stuck out was her asking why scum would send just bulge to push her. I felt like that sounded super inorganic.

I'm gonna try to reread some stuff

ninja-
It's almost like a weird 2181 twilight zone

[Iverson]

The point of that can be easily lost.

Skitter, I am saying that in order to make sense of my push on Notscience, you should read notscience's daystart up through Cakez vote, and the first few notscience posts of the game. These are what I had read at the time and together were deeply concerning, as I did not take the sheeping Mena at all light-heartedly

[Kismet]

am going back and still like mara's 1486 it every way to me seems like the legit defense of nacho that peta never gave

[Iverson]

i think VFT looks town throughout this entire interaction

I feel like you wanted some response to this but there's nothing for me to really respond to.

It's unfair of me to both want correct/rationalplay only to scumread it when it happens, expecting something more indignantly defensive w/ townreading my predecessor and it's me that's bad, but alas.

[Kismet]

I feel like you wanted some response to this but there's nothing for me to really respond to.

i wasn't expecting one, just thinking out loud.

[notscience]

Its just really hard for me to believe that if all four of us are town noone else tried to hop on to shove nacho earlier

[Kismet]

it only really makes sense to me if mara is also town

[Iverson]

I'm stopping at page 11 since a large part of my stepping back from mafia is to spend less time online period, but I think Infinity's followup on Leafeon still being scum later with beeboy still not posting just has me again having this slot as extremely hard town.

I hated Mena's opening pages which I found very awkward in its vehemency on NM and positioning on Notscience.

I felt like Leafeon's Cakez vote was a partner one but his reaction was

eh, okay

I wasn't a fan of either of skitter or lilith's early posting but I really do not know how to read this slot either right now or from the RVS stages.

[Iverson]

Town: Kismet, Infinity
Probably town: notscience
Null: Momrangal, VFT, Cakez
Scumlean: Bulge, DC, NM

Strictly ordered T->, I think I will unfortunately have to spend time worrying about NM wagon comp which I really did not want to do

[Kismet]

noddy i feel like the fact that cakez was super eager to jump off scum L&G onto mom the second you did is fairly decent argument for S cakez T mara as well

[Kismet]

or at the very least not S cakez S mara

[Kismet]

cakez just seems like incapable of a holistic view of the game

there is no trajectory between 913 (nacho's cases are good and i want to elim in mom/dc) and 1305 that i can see