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[PookyTheMagicalBear]

nah i hate playing scum

[GrandpaMo]

pooky, you often play like you're doing rn?

Whats your mood right now?

Wouldn’t your mood be better though if you rolled scum?

wtf leave pooky alone

[Gypyx]

depends on my mood

wdym by that?

[Gypyx]

pooky this is of capital importance, what did you eat last sunday

[Not_Mafia]

pooky this is of capital importance, what did you eat last sunday

Your mum

[Gypyx]

pooky this is of capital importance, what did you eat last sunday

Your mum

ouch

[GrandpaMo]

pooky this is of capital importance, what did you eat last sunday

only scum asks this smh

[Bingle]

Hmm. One of my top two scum reads coming to the defense of the other.

Can you elaborate a bit on the T3 read? I'm interested in why you think he's scum.

[Dannflor]

Bingle, how are you reading A50 so far?

dann i need to hear from you. you ask this question then dip which is wack.

I had to work 8 hours and then study for another 8

what do you need to hear from me exactly

[Dannflor]

I'm not entirely sure why Dann is worried about it just now, but he is likely to put a lot of stock in my ability to read A50

because I recently became willing to accept Bingle as town and I'm struggling to get a large volume of reads in this game

A50 specifically is someone with a posting style I have a hard time getting a bead on

[Dannflor]

@GrandpaMo, I'm confused about your trajectory on me

threatening to lean me scum if you "don't hear from me soon" doesn't entirely feel like a real read? unless you're placing a lot of stock on timing in thread and think I'm lurking

Can you explain what exactly you want from / want me to answer? I don't know how to respond to repeated posts that you need to hear from me.

[Dannflor]

also I'm probably leaning town on Grandpa despite the weirdness there

I'll explain after I get a chance to hear from them

[Dannflor]

VOTE: Lukewarm btw

[Dannflor]

also menalque if you push a policy of NM all day I will be forced to policy you

(im mostly kidding but please at least just try to play D1 ignoring him for now)

[Bingle]

As to why people are scumreading Prof:

His entrance sounded forced, and his immediate justification for it makes me think he's too worried about how he's coming across. 19 is a bit performative and I don't particularly like the way he danced around my wagon. This was less of a big deal when I thought he was a true newbie, but being an alt makes it less likely to simply be jitters.

His fluff/content ratio is actually pretty good, but the content he does have is very political. Sheeping me and asking for my other reads is a very safe move, even if I'm right on Gypyx. 103 shows an effort=town read for both me and Mena. VFP/T3/Gypyx feel mostly like fluff reads. It feels more like a readslist because he thought I expected him to have reads at that point in the game than a genuine reads list. I also would have expected a natural thought process to put the very similar reads of me and Mena adjacent to each other, rather than as bookends to the weaker, low content reads.

It's been mentioned that 113 is a pretty awful take. (A50 calling VFP's post a scumclaim is incredibly nonintuitive and I'd expect anyone without extensive A50 experience to look at that and go "What are you smoking old man?" not "Oh, yeah, 3 townreads in RVS is a scumclaim.") This suggests to me that Prof had absolutely no paranoia about A50's comment, which shows a distinct lack of town perspective in that he wasn't trying to figure out A50's alignment.

128 is a defense by way of pedantry (often scum). It's not "I'm not scummy and here's why" it's "You shouldn't think I'm scummy for that specific reason."

teal deer: He's playing a very political game, and I don't think his solving is genuine.

[Bingle]

I left off at 128 because I haven't been focused on reading him recently and haven't spent a lot of effort on parsing the recent posting.

[T3]

As to why people are scumreading Prof:

His entrance sounded forced, and his immediate justification for it makes me think he's too worried about how he's coming across. 19 is a bit performative and I don't particularly like the way he danced around my wagon. This was less of a big deal when I thought he was a true newbie, but being an alt makes it less likely to simply be jitters.

His fluff/content ratio is actually pretty good, but the content he does have is very political. Sheeping me and asking for my other reads is a very safe move, even if I'm right on Gypyx. 103 shows an effort=town read for both me and Mena. VFP/T3/Gypyx feel mostly like fluff reads. It feels more like a readslist because he thought I expected him to have reads at that point in the game than a genuine reads list. I also would have expected a natural thought process to put the very similar reads of me and Mena adjacent to each other, rather than as bookends to the weaker, low content reads.

It's been mentioned that 113 is a pretty awful take. (A50 calling VFP's post a scumclaim is incredibly nonintuitive and I'd expect anyone without extensive A50 experience to look at that and go "What are you smoking old man?" not "Oh, yeah, 3 townreads in RVS is a scumclaim.") This suggests to me that Prof had absolutely no paranoia about A50's comment, which shows a distinct lack of town perspective in that he wasn't trying to figure out A50's alignment.

128 is a defense by way of pedantry (often scum). It's not "I'm not scummy and here's why" it's "You shouldn't think I'm scummy for that specific reason."

teal deer: He's playing a very political game, and I don't think his solving is genuine.

That makes sense, I was actually about to ask why.

[GrandpaMo]

@GrandpaMo, I'm confused about your trajectory on me

threatening to lean me scum if you "don't hear from me soon" doesn't entirely feel like a real read? unless you're placing a lot of stock on timing in thread and think I'm lurking

Can you explain what exactly you want from / want me to answer? I don't know how to respond to repeated posts that you need to hear from me.

no no no. that was just me + adding to the scum thing. I understand you have lives and stuff but the problem was that you asked Bingle a question and then you dipped , I still want to see hear your reaction on Bingle's response and stuff because from my perspective you ask me a weird ass question to my question which I thought had a simple answer, then you move on to Bingle and them a question and we never hear from you again. It just seems like scum trying to contribute yk? and then dipping especailly when you still haven't followed up on the reaction of me or Bingle OTHER than post 484 where you respond to Bingle's rebuttal to your question.

I originally had scumpings for your initial weird entrance of pairing gypx + bingle and thought that was a weird ass ping but I really didn't give it much notice since it could be argued as a meme or like for RVS (explained in my analysis).


now tell me this when you get the chance. why the vote on lukewarm?

[Almost50]

IMHO, Drapion is more likely scum than T3 and/or Luke. I trust N_M's reads so I will reassert Gypyx as a scumster here. I no longer SR VPN. Menalque still has his own unique category in my reads.

UNVOTE:

For now. Let me take another look to see where my vote should be

t3 is way more scummier then drap. you can debate luke + drap because honestly u could see how luke is townier than drap. but mmh, can you tell me what drap has done thats more scum?

also you think gypx is scum too? i doubt in that interaction on page 13. i doubt that gypx shitpushes drap in that manner as of a way of bussing. just read that interaction... drap put them in a corner and now they never answered. gypx comes out way scummier in that interaction. this is giving me andante vibes in 2059 >.> where everyone + mafia just started scumreading this one person and i was the only one defending them and they flipped town.

As for Drap, I agree his questions (asking for reads) could be an elaborate way of hunting the Mason Lovers. You ask for reads, you try to find 2 people who TR each other for no good reason, and you probably found the Masons.

As for Gypyx, trust me.. NOTHING is outside his Scum range. (That's actually a compliment to his scum game, but I also understand it's an annoying stance as nothing he does can make me say "Yeah, I am convinced Gypyx is Town now")

[Almost50]

Bingle, how are you reading A50 so far?

dann i need to hear from you. you ask this question then dip which is wack.

I had to work 8 hours and then study for another 8

what do you need to hear from me exactly

Are you seriously telling me that working and/or studying is more important to you than playing?? Mate, that's such a scummy approach to life.

[Bingle]

As for Drap, I agree his questions (asking for reads) could be an elaborate way of hunting the Mason Lovers. You ask for reads, you try to find 2 people who TR each other for no good reason, and you probably found the Masons.

We should probably table discussions about how to mason hunt for the time being.

[Lukewarm]

Hmm. One of my top two scum reads coming to the defense of the other.

Can you elaborate a bit on the T3 read? I'm interested in why you think he's scum.

I kind of laid it out in post 290, but basically two things:

When I look over his iso, he is posting a few times a day, with a few hours in-between each post, but he does not really seem to be interacting with the thread. His posts are all super short, they are not responding to other people's posts, and they are not asking other people questions. If just feels like he is passively observing the thread, and there is not really a sign that he is trying to understand other people's reads nor does he appear to be putting any pressure on his own reads. So overall, it feels like he is not trying to find scum.

The second reason was the way he responded to Grandpa's push against me. Like grandpa made their case, and I responded, and his post was

VOTE: Lukewarm. His tone feels forced , and I'm not liking th defense.

Then Grandpa kept pushing, and I made the same response, but tacked on "at this point I think you are tunneling over this." And then Grandpa backed down from the push, and started talking about other people, and T3 sent

I do think Lukewarm had a good defense I'll have to think on it.

It just feels like neither his vote on me nor his unvote were genuine.

He did not really explain why he agreed with Grandpa's side of your back and forth, but joined the wagon. And then "grandpa, I think you are tunneling" is not a defense that I think would have swayed anyone other then grandpa, if they really did believe their scum read on me. So if he were town, and he did not ever have a scum read on me, why did he join the wagon, and if he did really have a scum read on my, why did he leave?

But I could see it coming from scum "join the wagon that is currently gaining steam" then "leave the wagon when grandpa stops pushing it"

[GrandpaMo]

[quote="In post 496, Lukewarm"][/quote]

yea exactly. thats why i thought there was scum between u and t3. just because of that weird ass interaction where t3 just felt ingenuine pushing you then backing down and not even really explaining why

[GrandpaMo]

yea exactly. thats why i thought there was scum between u and t3. just because of that weird ass interaction where t3 just felt ingenuine pushing you then backing down and not even really explaining why

also the indifference that i saw t3 play way better than this. pls explain t3 why r u playing differently? this isnt ur usual town playstyle ngl

im gonna place my vote here for now.

VOTE: T3

[GrandpaMo]

Spoiler:

As to why people are scumreading Prof:

His entrance sounded forced, and his immediate justification for it makes me think he's too worried about how he's coming across. 19 is a bit performative and I don't particularly like the way he danced around my wagon. This was less of a big deal when I thought he was a true newbie, but being an alt makes it less likely to simply be jitters.

His fluff/content ratio is actually pretty good, but the content he does have is very political. Sheeping me and asking for my other reads is a very safe move, even if I'm right on Gypyx. 103 shows an effort=town read for both me and Mena. VFP/T3/Gypyx feel mostly like fluff reads. It feels more like a readslist because he thought I expected him to have reads at that point in the game than a genuine reads list. I also would have expected a natural thought process to put the very similar reads of me and Mena adjacent to each other, rather than as bookends to the weaker, low content reads.

It's been mentioned that 113 is a pretty awful take. (A50 calling VFP's post a scumclaim is incredibly nonintuitive and I'd expect anyone without extensive A50 experience to look at that and go "What are you smoking old man?" not "Oh, yeah, 3 townreads in RVS is a scumclaim.") This suggests to me that Prof had absolutely no paranoia about A50's comment, which shows a distinct lack of town perspective in that he wasn't trying to figure out A50's alignment.

128 is a defense by way of pedantry (often scum). It's not "I'm not scummy and here's why" it's "You shouldn't think I'm scummy for that specific reason."

teal deer: He's playing a very political game, and I don't think his solving is genuine.

That makes sense, I was actually about to ask why.[/quote]

more proof here