In post 1453, Mognet wrote:I think you might be scum Dr. Strange Kupo.In post 1451, joqiza wrote:i think i'm willing to hammer mastina, but i want to give her a chance to speak first
So why does his phrasing make him scum? Why would scum do that? Why is that impossible for town to do? What's the benefit and why does that benefit make it worth doing? Hell, why would he, as a villager, be more sure of himself here anyways?In post 1465, Mognet wrote:This is why I think you’re not American. You keep hedging way too much. You think you’ll hammer but ...In post 1464, joqiza wrote:I don't like committing to things unless I feel good about them.
It's hard to feel good about anything with 24p at the table and no one resolved.
That's basically the crux of the issue. I think I'll be more expressive once I see a flip.
That should just be I will hammer. You’re saying I think because it’s group pressure to hammer Mastina.
See here you’re being pressured about not having a read. Then you’ll be more expressive once you know? I mean it’s easy to get people right who have flipped.
Everything being described here is based on magical thinking as opposed to logical thinking.
I read 1451 and I go "oh ok" and nod along
this guy sees it and goes "ya, I think it might be scum" ?????????
Dude brings up a point, its D1, its the hardest day in any mafia game, but this guy is sayin "NOPE, you seem unsure on if you want to hammer or not so you must be scum."In post 1468, Mognet wrote:You’re being uncertain about what you’re willing to do.In post 1466, joqiza wrote:?
I said what I said about the hammer, I don't get why being uncertain is AI on D1 of a game. If you think it is, then you shouldn't.
Being more expressive about reads =/= being more expressive about the flipped slot... that's simply not what I'm saying. I'm saying the flip (not necessarily mastina's, but a flip in general) will help inform my reads on other slots.
I think I’d hammer
I think I’d be more expressive.
It’s too vague and not about reads.
It’s like saying “I think I will tell you a scumread by Sunday” it’s too wishy washy. Either commit or don’t to an action. It’s got all sorts of wiggle room and no accountability,
So instead of
- addressing why being uncertain is alignment indicative on D1 of a game
we are instead
- doubling down and saying nothing new.
- trying to force down this black or white viewpoint of "commit or don't" which is not as black and white as being described.
I'll give him this, he does add something new to the post by saying that it gives all sorts of wiggle room w/ no accountability, but I'll also add his posts aren't good enough to actually provide that wiggle room and make it so he won't be held accountable. Oh also regardless of the flip no one is going to hold him accountable regardless even if mastina did speak and he did want to hammer her after she sneaked anyways.
