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[Cabd]

Anna, realtalk, are you a little mad I didn't give you the satisfaction of a juicy meaty oldschool 2013 one on one?

I'm disappointed you didn't want to play the game.

I'm still unsure where you're getting this outsized read of what I do "on average".

Xenoblade was an exception to the rule.

[Cabd]

As sweet, stole the page top to boot.

[Anastasia]

Maybe you are right and I do have unreasonable expectations for your contribution to our quest.

[Cabd]

STD- the same offer I made nero stands.

[Nero Cain]

So far Andre case seems to be just Nero OMGUS

tbf i was calling andre scummy long b4 he even voted me.

Andresvmb

Artemiana
DrippingGoofball

are all scummy lurkers

his "case" on me is that I thought T3 was town so I must be scum.

honestly man, andre cheerleading the t3 wagon from the sidelines while vanity voting me and then when called on it lied and said his wagon "died" is like scum AF.

[Save The Dragons]

STD- the same offer I made nero stands.

what was it

[Save The Dragons]

oh for candy? yeah i'll take candy

[Cabd]

And yet.

In your head, what kind of godly mafia PR am I that I threw my team's investigative down a pit to save myself for?

[Save The Dragons]

that's not candy!

i'm sorry, what did you do to throw your team's investigative down a pit to save yourself? honest question - i was sick for the end of the day yesterday

[Anastasia]

I don't think you threw T3 down a pit to save yourself - you were not even around at the end of the day if I remember correctly?

I also think the player matters more than the mechanical role.

I'd certainly prefer a good player holding a goon role over a elimbait player holding a pr role.

[Dunnstral]

I think I'd like to vote out one of andres, a50, save the dragons today

My thoughts on each:

I can't shake the feeling that the play I am seeing from andres in this game is different from what I've seen of him in another game, he felt more commanding and in control there. His play here has felt toned down in comparison. I may have said this before or I only thought it.

A50 is primarily due to thinking that what NDMath pointed out in regards to traitor crumbs seemed very plausible to me. I'm surprised more people didn't comment on this and it's seemed to fade into the background instead.

Save the dragons has felt like they've been playing on the outskirts of the game the whole game, and it's not due to the pace of the game but rather what they choose to comment on and what they choose to ignore. It feels tactical for sure in what they choose to ignore, and the tone has been bad here. I have a good gut feeling here.

Those aren't the extent of my reads, but it's what I feel best about voting today

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Dunstral

The case against me is solely that we're both scum together, by the way, so this is an ultra slimy vote

VOTE: Save The Dragons

By the way... assuming I'm scum because I'm pushing probable scum is dumb, pointing to that micro is also dumb and narrow-minded

[Dunnstral]

Look I’m in 5 games at the same time, all due to bad timing, 3 on this forum, and I just fucking haven’t read all 3,000 posts since this game started after the two others I’m playing here. Like enough already. Look at my history - I dig deep and play 1 game at a time because I like to think deeply about games not play so many at the same time.

ok

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: Dunstral

The case against me is solely that we're both scum together, by the way, so this is an ultra slimy vote

VOTE: Save The Dragons

By the way... assuming I'm scum because I'm pushing probable scum is dumb, pointing to that micro is also dumb and narrow-minded

That's not the reason i'm voting for you obviously

[Almost50]

what bothers me about dkkoba this game is thinking it's plausible for there to be 2 town cops even after playing like 500+ games of mafia or something

Here's a really

really

REALLY

stupid question: Which player is an alt of DkKoba? Because I double checked the OP and didn't find their name, and I know I've seen them post and are being mentioned often.

[Dunnstral]

Alright, I checked DGB. Innocent. Godfather isn't normal right? So DGB is clear.

You

really

needed to check DGB of all players to know this?? (I guess .. maybe. DGB is indeed hard to read to many, but I recognized her as Town easily both here and in the most previous game

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)

Why weren't you saying this when people were telling the cops to check DGB

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Dunstral

The case against me is solely that we're both scum together, by the way, so this is an ultra slimy vote

VOTE: Save The Dragons

By the way... assuming I'm scum because I'm pushing probable scum is dumb, pointing to that micro is also dumb and narrow-minded

That's not the reason i'm voting for you obviously

OK. Why are you voting me?

[Dunnstral]

What was wrong with deathnote?

Apparently you were our Traitor but we didn't get it right. :P

A50 needs to die too

[Almost50]

WindowsXP

[4] - DrippingGoofball, bloodhail, Etine, Vasex

Dunnstral

[2] - Rathe, samantha97

These appear to be my 2 realistic options to vote right now. Both wagons consist of TRs of mine and the targets are NULL to me.

ALSO..

Almost50

[1] - Almost50

Everyone who said they wanted to vote me but didn't I officially tag as a chicken. You had your chance and you chickened out.

VOTE: Win XP

1- Larger wagon
2- My old hard drive crashed and I no longer use Win XP

[NDMath]

A50 demanding a towncase on the only slot to have been around for less of the game than his is super odd.

Spoiler: A50 posts

iso skimmed people over the night


i think t3 spewed vasex, etine, kittytacky and enchant as town

i also think andres, marky, and kerset look very good as they were pushing T3 hard.

nero cain was chainsaw defending T3 with his attack on andres, looks horrible

strong town: vasex, andres, marky mark, kittytacky, kerset, etine, enchant
weak town: cabd, rathe
null: dunnstral, NDMath, samantha97
weak scum: windowsxp, anastasia, drippinggoofball
scum: nero cain, save the dragons

VOTE: Nero Cain

The one thing I love most about this read list is that I'm invisible.

But seriously, can you town case yourself for me before you start giving reads on others? Like, if you said something specifically that contributed directly to the T3 elimination then please quote. All I know is you were late to the party, so to speak.

i forgot to put you there because your content is nonexistant but you're still scum

fuck off i'm not towncasing myself

Good.. good.

VOTE: bloodhail

Maybe someone else will care to town case you for me then.

Why does that make them a traitor vs being normal faction scum

Because the case itself could be taken as a crumb for being said Traitor. Why would anyone make a case on a Traitor at the start of the day rather than look for associative tells between flipped Scum and other living players?

When I saw the maf cop flip and it implying traitor, it reminded me of deathnote's weird miller-not-miller thing, and that they had at least one more oddly phrased post. After confirming it during the night I thought it was an important enough thing to say in thread.

Willing to full clear Mark off the mafia cop.

...but mafia knew they had a cop

So saying a miller claim is clear because of what a mafia member flipped is using bad reasoning

Putting a miller in to mess with mafia cop is the most setup-designer thing ever.
And "I'll claim miller so I get townread if my cop partner dies before me" isn't really something scum would think of?

no to just u but bloodhail n almost50 as well

I am sus of the last 3 voters of the T3 wagon, namely Vasex, bloodhail & Enchant. I do not think they're ALL scum though, but I can see it being 2 out of the 3.

Don't like this thought process, it's lazy and I don't think it's real.

looking at anya ISO, Nero, Anastasia, and Samantha look more incriminated by that kill.

Spoiler:

drippinggoofball and almost50 are confirmed town click below spoiler for why thanks

Spoiler:

With T3 flipping mafia doc, and his cop claim turning out false, I now believe Kitty is town.

T3 has been eliminated Day 1. He was a

Mafia Cop

.

confirmed town: me/rathe/a50/dgb/enchant
likely town: vasex/kitty

I remember some areas where more town were revealed but I have been lazy/just woke up and need to reread it later

if drippinggoofball didn't know t3's role then dripping couldn't be mafia, and mafia wouldn't exactly want to point that out

there's no mafia mindset behind almost50s post

(Referring to A50) That implies there's a town-exclusive mindset applying, can you explain what it is?

Windows is more obvious scum than nero.
And std is more obvious than windows.

Why Anya? I think that this a key. Lets discuss it.
Im almost sure that she was a big problem for smb.
My bet - after t3 elimed she could be a head pain for windows.

Anya nk looks good for you, I don't think mafia would kill her if you were on the team.


Convinced by the arguments on this slot more than on nero or Windows.
VOTE: Dragons

[Almost50]

What was wrong with deathnote?

Apparently you were our Traitor but we didn't get it right.

A50 needs to die too

VOTE: Dunn

Changed my mind. Dunn in particular can't possibly SR me here. He knows much much much better.

[Save The Dragons]

Convinced by the arguments on this slot more than on nero or Windows.
VOTE: Dragons

which arguments

[Dunnstral]

What was wrong with deathnote?

Apparently you were our Traitor but we didn't get it right. :P

A50 needs to die too

VOTE: Dunn

Changed my mind. Dunn in particular can't possibly SR me here. He knows much much much better.

Explain how I know better

[Dunnstral]

Putting a miller in to mess with mafia cop is the most setup-designer thing ever.
And "I'll claim miller so I get townread if my cop partner dies before me" isn't really something scum would think of?

I'm saying that mafia knew that there was a cop because they had it, so the miller claim itself is less clear because mafia could have done something like that

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: Dunstral

The case against me is solely that we're both scum together, by the way, so this is an ultra slimy vote

VOTE: Save The Dragons

By the way... assuming I'm scum because I'm pushing probable scum is dumb, pointing to that micro is also dumb and narrow-minded

That's not the reason i'm voting for you obviously

OK. Why are you voting me?

Because yesterday I was the only player you attacked for the reasons you did, but there were others with low content in the beginning. your read didn't evolve as i slowly started to generate content, push targets and voice my opinion on things.

Because you've changed the way you're playing since T3 died and it doesn't seem like it's just from having more information

Because cabd isn't getting votes and i'm trying to vote effectively before scum comes crawling out of the woodwork and slowly jumps on my wagon