Large Normal 232—Sibyl's Elegy [GAME OVER]

[WindowsXP]

This has nothing to do with how they are reading me, but like ive also changed my mind on how im reading STD and how i approach that slot and imma say they are town here.

[WindowsXP]

So ig what im saying is that dunns is a scumlean for me

[KittyTacky]

Sorry I was quite busy yesterday, couldn't post much.

I'm hesitant to vote STD as they don't seem that bad but if the wagon on Cabd fails to grow before DL then sure.

That bad compared to Cabd.

[Save The Dragons]

wow

buy me dinner first

[WindowsXP]

wow

buy me dinner first

No u

[Save The Dragons]

that was to kitty for their unfortunate typo

[Save The Dragons]

I guess I am curious what made you change your mind about me

[WindowsXP]

I guess I am curious what made you change your mind about me

a story for a later date, as the kids say

[Enchant]

Vasex mentality:
1. Find someone
2. Claim they are confirmed mafia for some reason
3. Vote

Stopped being funny, actually starting to think it's hard for him to actually give normal reasoning. Dodging questions not helping.

VOTE: Vasex

[Vasex]

No please
Not me
Im innocent
I didnt do it
Help

[Marky Mark]

lol mark.

you know how XP is arguing that not everyone that defended T3 is scum? The inverse of that argument is that not everyone that called t3 scum is town. Yelling that t3 is scum and then not voting there when it matters makes perfect sense as bussing/distancing from a scum buddy. Why are you refusing to consider this?

Yeah, obviously scum can and do bus.

There's a big difference between bussing a partner whose wagon looks like it is gonna go through anyways and starting the wagon in the first place.

[Vasex]

Stop talking like you know how to play this game

[Marky Mark]

Eg contrast :
A.) Vasex defending T3 all day and then voting him at dayend when his wagon was gaining too much momentum to be stopped
and
B.) Andres yelling hard for the lim of T3 after the previous T3 wagon had died off and starting off the wagon that led to T3's elim. Andres might have voted elsewhere inbetween to try and compromise at dayend and get something through, but he was a key architect of that wagon.

Big difference between voting for towncred when your partner is gonna die anyways and being the one to orchestrate an elim on your partner.

[Marky Mark]

Please refrain from personal attacks designed to discredit me as a player Vasex. You're better than this.

[Vasex]

but he was a key architect of that wagon.

This is not truth
He provided no good reasons to elim t3
He was just a noise
Good reasons were provided by enchant and kerset

[Vasex]

And these reasons were in the end of the day, yeah

[Vasex]

He was playing like he definitely knows that kitty, enchant and me are townies, thats why he told me stupidly that im wrong about everything

[Marky Mark]

but he was a key architect of that wagon.

This is not truth
He provided no good reasons to elim t3
He was just a noise
Good reasons were provided by enchant and kerset

I’m going to be honest. I’m completely embarrassed we’re not executing T3. They’re so obviously Scum the claim really shouldn’t be saving them.

Look at 935, 969, 971, and tell me that’s the reaction of a player that has seen someone claim their role and is certain they’re Scum. Look this is my way of thinking about it, and it’s possible it’s coloring my view, but here it goes. I’m proud of games where I pick out 2/3 of the Team or something, or make one solid play that sets my team up. That’s what I live for. I don’t think of myself as strong enough or perceptive enough to provide complete solves, or absolutely murder all of the Scum, or mechanically provide perfect answers. So when presented with the opportunity to sacrifice myself for the execution of sure Scum, I take it. If a player claims my role under pressure and I’m suspecting them, I would out and bury them. No questions asked. And in a game this large, the fact that you make yourself such an obvious target means that there’s all kinds of information that could come out if. T3 is

not

acting this way at all. Instead of clearly pushing Kitty who is rapidly losing momentum, and provide either a claim, strong reasoning, or a laser focus, they switch to Enchant, claiming they Scum slipped. Not only is their play incredibly Scummy on its own - the Claim, and the immediate reaction, are spectacularly hard to believe.

Look, I’m fine with looking past the claim. At the end of the day my vote isn’t there. But I want to be crystal clear - T3 should get executed tomorrow. And I’m certain they’ll be around to tell us about their “check”.

[Vasex]

And when i noticed that, andre tried to step back , he was confused.
And in the new day i attecked him with arguments that nero hard town, xp,andre,std scums, and i provided reasons shy andre now is scum and how strange his and xp's reaction after anya's death, and now he left the thread confused again, and again tried to step back. Just read his behaviour under my pressure. He is a scum.

[Vasex]

*reasons why

[Marky Mark]

How do you know that he's stepping back under pressure rather than just being low activity as he was throughout d1? Genuine question.

[Vasex]

This is not good reasoning, mark. T3 tried to elim kitty, firstly with vote, than he even claimed bp just to kill kitty with any cost. Only then when it became obvious that players will give kitty one night, he started voting his second target enchant.
Though i still has some doubts about this. I think it is still possible that there was his partner between kitty and enchant, but the possibility is low

[Vasex]

How do you know that he's stepping back under pressure rather than just being low activity as he was throughout d1? Genuine question.

Because he is too confident about his susps, while he is not reading everything and just promises to do it again and again, he is trying to push his ideas to people. Comparing with a50 for example: he just doesnt give a fuck about previous pages.

[Marky Mark]

This is not good reasoning, mark. T3 tried to elim kitty, firstly with vote, than he even claimed bp just to kill kitty with any cost. Only then when it became obvious that players will give kitty one night, he started voting his second target enchant.
Though i still has some doubts about this. I think it is still possible that there was his partner between kitty and enchant, but the possibility is low

I mean you were pushing Kitty/Enchant too :S

[Marky Mark]

How do you know that he's stepping back under pressure rather than just being low activity as he was throughout d1? Genuine question.

Because he is too confident about his susps, while he is not reading everything and just promises to do it again and again, he is trying to push his ideas to people. Comparing with a50 for example: he just doesnt give a fuck about previous pages.

He does seem very confident in his suspicions, that is true.