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[osuka]

it's certainly thought-provoking, and there were definitely points where i was leaning towards "fuck the mechanics we should only be focusing on dayplay." town does hage a lot of firepower, but with such a mountain of WIFOM possibilities to sort through (# of unarmed scum, trustworthiness of a vig claim, etc) it feels a bit like giving a blind toddler a shotgun. i do think if we had caught one scum early we'd have been in a much better, maybe even town-favour position. town just needed that one flip to start peeling away the edges and we never got it. if nothing else this has definitely taught me that play-based voting reigns supreme on this godless website of lies and deception

@osuka fuck you you pinged me multiple times but i ignored it because the moments where you had me, you really had me

hah that's funny

what did i do to ping you? i can tell you i didnt feel threatened at any point in time during this game, like my head was never on the chopping block

[Datisi]

the town had essentially 0 power in a game with 3 scum doctors that were more or less informed of the setup.

how so? neap can get innos, rolecop can get a guilty, gunsmith once claimed will probably be treated as an ic, one-shot detective is a little extra, and scum is essentially playing white flag considering if two of them flip, the rest of the setup will probably be figured out soon after.

granted, maybe i shouldn't be saying "gunsmith will be treated as an ic" considering what happened with the vig claim, but comparing this to mt 10v3 is a bit extreme i think.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i think 3 10 MT is more winnable than this because the tprs in this game were minus ev

[DkKoba]

not my fault yall didn't lim me 3 days straight smh

[DkKoba]

setups fault*

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i am actually confident that if this game had been 3 - 10 MT that the town would have won decisively.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

not my fault yall didn't lim me 3 days straight smh

the only reason you even lived was because we didnt think the town could possibly be so underpowered as to not have a vig lol.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the town had essentially 0 power in a game with 3 scum doctors that were more or less informed of the setup.

how so? neap can get innos, rolecop can get a guilty, gunsmith once claimed will probably be treated as an ic, one-shot detective is a little extra, and scum is essentially playing white flag considering if two of them flip, the rest of the setup will probably be figured out soon after.

granted, maybe i shouldn't be saying "gunsmith will be treated as an ic" considering what happened with the vig claim, but comparing this to mt 10v3 is a bit extreme i think.

rolecop neapo gunsmith are not "strong" prs

strong prs are like IC, Mason, Vig because they are self confirming

this setup essentially had no strong tprs and wifom thrown in to subtract ev from townside.

[osuka]

i like the concept behind the setup though. it's adding another layer of misdirection that i think is very welcome in mafia

[InsidiousLemons]

hah that's funny

what did i do to ping you? i can tell you i didnt feel threatened at any point in time during this game, like my head was never on the chopping block

you overall went softer on me than other players and let mistakes slide without mention that i felt you wouldn't have if you weren't sure i was town. it read to me like you didn't want to put yourself up against me not because you strongly townread me, but because you felt there were easier pushes to make. the buddying paid off though because i really wanted you to be town

3082 was a pretty blatant misrep

too lazy to skim your entire iso but there were just a few things over the course of the game that made my gut go "hm, a crack in the facade" but i ignored that because gut with little evidence does not a good case make. and also i felt like we were kind of fucked if you were scum lol

at least i know my gut reads are okay sometimes

[DkKoba]

I dont think anyone can blame the setup for limming Asteria->Lemons back to back over me

[InsidiousLemons]

I dont think anyone can blame the setup for limming Asteria->Lemons back to back over me

the only reason you even lived was because we didnt think the town could possibly be so underpowered as to not have a vig lol.

if not for the setup making a non-vigged town completely unfathomable to me until it was clear there was no other option, you would've flipped the day you claimed

[InsidiousLemons]

the claim gambit was a clever one, i'll give you that, but even you have to admit it wouldn't have paid off if not for the setup

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

it wasnt even a gambit

making three mafia doctors means there shouldnt be a vig

[Andresvmb]

Meh I though Anya was Scum, definitely got some Scum pings from osuka, and wanted Koba dead. The execution of Asteria was ridiculous.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this setup is the most scum sided thing ive played in 18 years on this site

[Andresvmb]

Anya and Insidious seemed so damn coordinated this game, I don’t know that I feel bad about that vote.

[Andresvmb]

I pointed to the fact that Crayons’ wagon should have meant they needed to die, and nobody listened. I wanted to save Asteria, and nobody listened. At some stage, I can’t be to blame for shit like this.

[InsidiousLemons]

we had a secret masons pt

jk its funny you say that because i couldn't get a bead on anya for basically the entire game

its part of what made VFP saying she seemed like "one of the easier players to read" stand out so much to me

[DkKoba]

it wasnt even a gambit

making three mafia doctors means there shouldnt be a vig

We werent multitasking

[DkKoba]

the claim gambit was a clever one, i'll give you that, but even you have to admit it wouldn't have paid off if not for the setup

I knew i get ccd by endgame.

[InsidiousLemons]

and nah andres you're not to blame i just think consensus and attention was unfortunately not on your side for most of the game. i could say we should've paid more heed to your posts but speaking for myself i didn't ignore your posts, i just considered them and then decided (incorrectly) that there were better options. if it eases your pain, i would've gone with town!andres over town!osuka in a gth situation

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

it wasnt even a gambit

making three mafia doctors means there shouldnt be a vig

We werent multitasking

doesnt matter

theres no point for a town vig if the mafia are that powered up

[InsidiousLemons]

it wasnt even a gambit

making three mafia doctors means there shouldnt be a vig

We werent multitasking

i feel like "we could only protect 2 of our members every night, not 3" is a bit of a cop out

p-edit ^

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

gunsmith in a game with three mafia doctors is just lol level trolling <3

love you dats thanks for modding. always an experience.

havent been this tilted at a setup in years.