Mini 2206 - Deja Vu: Perpetual MELO IV - END!

[Infinity 324]

Yeah that's fair, it might be best to not talk about it anyway, but I want to talk about this game while I'm still motivated

[Kismet]

I think cakez' positions have been a little sloppy and disorganized and some of his early game was a bit shallow. I wrote about this in 2599 and when i came into today i kinda wanted to vote him.

That said my position has kind of flipped since daystart and of all the people expressing ire about how the wagons went yesterday his seems to be the most genuine and I liked his interactions w/ Iverson, definitely enough to put me off wanting to go for him for the moment.

[Kismet]

honestly at this point if not for skitter saying ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOT I'd probably just go for DC and hope for the best.

[Kismet]

i think this game gets more winnable if we get even 1 scum here imo and i'm just trying to get back from the precipice. I understand that some want me to just get it over with and I don't begrudge that sentiment.

[SirCakez]

notsci's total lack of presence and motivation today seems highly scum motivated

[SirCakez]

like I don't feel like notsci!town just sort of rolls over here like he has done today

[Infinity 324]

I don't think it's that out of character for town-cakez to have sloppy progressions. I feel like at a certain point in the day if all your townreads want to go in a different direction from you most people just give in, and that felt like what 1305 was about.

It's like, you don't think cakez is scum with mara right? So who are you voting besides DC today? I'm assuming scum could've quickhammered DC by now if possible, which means either DC is scum or cakez is scum or I'm scum with prism. Part of what I was thinking about last night is how I really don't see prism as scum here, idk if you agree but I don't see him doing loopedy loops trying to avoid getting limmed here as scum when he could've just drawn less attention to himself by letting NM hammer. And the fact that prism is so ~messy~ here is like, why is he putting so much effort into getting into a mental headspace as scum if people are going to not understand it and write it off anyway? Idk

[Infinity 324]

Idk if this conversation is really helpful to anyone, but I want to see where you're at

[Kismet]

It's like, you don't think cakez is scum with mara right? So who are you voting besides DC today?

probably mara.

[Kismet]

I don't see him doing loopedy loops trying to avoid getting limmed here as scum when he could've just drawn less attention to himself by letting NM hammer.

yeah, this isn't a bad point and is initially why i was confused about the NM flee.

[SirCakez]

I don't think it's that out of character for town-cakez to have sloppy progressions. I feel like at a certain point in the day if all your townreads want to go in a different direction from you most people just give in, and that felt like what 1305 was about.

This reminds me that I still hate Notsci begging me to vote Nacho, swearing that if Nacho flipped town he would sheep out day 2, then just outright not doing this and instead helping push Bulge!town through

[Infinity 324]

Fair enough, I will actually do that meta check the

The logic of "notsci isn't here therefore scummy" I'm pretty skeptical of though.

[SirCakez]

Fair enough, I will actually do that meta check the

The logic of "notsci isn't here therefore scummy" I'm pretty skeptical of though.

why? it seems like he hasn't given a shit all day

[Infinity 324]

Neither have I

[Infinity 324]

Fair enough, I will actually do that meta check the

The logic of "notsci isn't here therefore scummy" I'm pretty skeptical of though.

Even putting aside RL stuff, I don't blame anyone for getting demotivated when we have such a small chance to win. Depending on the player, it could actually be town-indicative.

[SirCakez]

meh my thing with you is you just don't have such strong associations with the nacho and bulge wagons

[Infinity 324]

But I was one of the main pushers of both those wagons? Bork talked earlier about how he voted bulge at an opportunistic time, and how your nacho vote looked pretty opportunistic too. Obviously it's +scum to be on a CW to scum but there have been a lot of townies on CWs to scum this game.

[SirCakez]

yes there has been -_-

[SirCakez]

not everyone who is being scummy rn is scum
I have to weigh who is worse

[Infinity 324]

I guess it's like, if it's true that notsci hasn't ever kept up this level of motivation as scum (up through d2 anyway), that should be pretty good reason to look elsewhere?

[SirCakez]

i don't know his meta that well
i'm not sure I understand your post
he is demotivated rn apparently, so if you're saying him not keeping up motivation is a sign of being scum, then I am on the right track no?

[Infinity 324]

I'm told he's already out of his scumrange, will get back to you once I've meta'd him

[Iverson]

Given that Cakez's last two pages are super town I might have to revisit notscience, wack.

[Iverson]

Either way I'm glad we're doing this instead of the gladiate, I wouldn't say I'm 100% sold on you being town but high five for now Cakez

Now after seeing everyone react to my narrative walls about intent/playstyle please do not read Iceland there is nothing to see that game and everyone is right that it is way beyond anything I could do as scum, no need to look further thank you.

[Iverson]

I don't really feel like Cakez tries to set up something against notscience later over just......staying on me and winning the game when VFT/Kismet vote

So yeah