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Post Post #4475 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 5:51 am

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i was trying rly hard to keep xp in my townreads but it just was not making sense i dont think town acts this way
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Post Post #4476 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 5:51 am

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and maybe wihdows xp knew that std is town, thats why he was avoiding his elimination, though he said he would vote there

today i have not much time, i will play it more tomorrow
i have other game in russian right now
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Post Post #4477 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 5:53 am

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VOTE: windowsxp

finally we see the light
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Post Post #4478 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 5:53 am

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In post 4475, Rathe wrote:i was trying rly hard to keep xp in my townreads but it just was not making sense i dont think town acts this way
I’ll be honest with you, I don’t think XP is Scum. I think they tend to feel a bit different when they’re Scum. I’ve played with them multiple times and I don’t think it’s going to hit but I failed at an Endgame just recently and I played another game a bit poorly and my confidence just isn’t there so that’s mostly what it is.
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Post Post #4479 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 5:53 am

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In post 4476, Vasex wrote:and maybe wihdows xp knew that std is town, thats why he was avoiding his elimination, though he said he would vote there
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Post Post #4480 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 5:55 am

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In post 4469, Andresvmb wrote:I’ll say that if XP flips Scum, I think Nero is Town.
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Post Post #4481 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 5:55 am

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I also started thinking that Nero perhaps wouldn’t so openly attack me as Scum. I think it would have been a bit foolish to do. But I don’t really know. There’s definitely one in {Nero Cain, XP} I think.
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Post Post #4482 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 5:56 am

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In post 4480, bloodhail wrote:
In post 4469, Andresvmb wrote:I’ll say that if XP flips Scum, I think Nero is Town.
why
I think their interactions around how XP starts saying that Nero is trying to tie themselves to them at the beginning of D2 were a bit funky, and they were going at each other.
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Post Post #4483 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 5:58 am

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In post 4478, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 4475, Rathe wrote:i was trying rly hard to keep xp in my townreads but it just was not making sense i dont think town acts this way
I’ll be honest with you, I don’t think XP is Scum. I think they tend to feel a bit different when they’re Scum. I’ve played with them multiple times and I don’t think it’s going to hit but I failed at an Endgame just recently and I played another game a bit poorly and my confidence just isn’t there so that’s mostly what it is.
reading that game is what initially made me think dkkoba was mafia here

it was their interaction with you actually:
In post 3088, DkKoba wrote:can i just say andres has this way with words that makes me just like - shit this dude is smarter than me in this game and idk how i even win games kinda vibe.

VOTE: lemon

fucking sold me just like the cook sell in the mason game we had (rip power trip masons tho lmfao)
In post 705, samantha97 wrote:
In post 704, WindowsXP wrote:is it bad that i wanna say i wanna sheep vasex today and like basically make them town leader like i fucking trust this dude to be town 100% and they are putting in effort i am unable to really put into a large game like i hate sorting 20 other people LOL
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Post Post #4484 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 5:58 am

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In post 4482, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 4480, bloodhail wrote:
In post 4469, Andresvmb wrote:I’ll say that if XP flips Scum, I think Nero is Town.
why
I think their interactions around how XP starts saying that Nero is trying to tie themselves to them at the beginning of D2 were a bit funky, and they were going at each other.
honestly thought it looked like theater
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Post Post #4485 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 5:59 am

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6 votes? need 8 to elim

i read nothing right now, i will read tomorrow
but if u need my vote, why not
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Post Post #4486 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 5:59 am

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In post 3462, WindowsXP wrote:And Andres ur spewed town off ana+nero scum
In post 3475, WindowsXP wrote:Look - how does nero reach the conclusion of cabd scum here and say im an acceptable lim in the same breathe.

This is scum trying to force a tvt wagon and its blatant
In post 3485, WindowsXP wrote:
In post 3482, Nero Cain wrote:y is cabd town? and you can't use "he's spewed b/c u r scum" b/c im not. b/c the t3 wagon overtook him? I don't think that has to make him town.
You're egging on my wagon while saying cabd is also scum.

This is not logical

Am i the only one who sees this or are yall so blinded by tunneling me that its impossible to see basic fucking logic when it slaps you in the face.
This sort of stuff.
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Post Post #4487 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 6:00 am

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In post 4483, samantha97 wrote:
In post 4478, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 4475, Rathe wrote:i was trying rly hard to keep xp in my townreads but it just was not making sense i dont think town acts this way
I’ll be honest with you, I don’t think XP is Scum. I think they tend to feel a bit different when they’re Scum. I’ve played with them multiple times and I don’t think it’s going to hit but I failed at an Endgame just recently and I played another game a bit poorly and my confidence just isn’t there so that’s mostly what it is.
reading that game is what initially made me think dkkoba was mafia here

it was their interaction with you actually:
In post 3088, DkKoba wrote:can i just say andres has this way with words that makes me just like - shit this dude is smarter than me in this game and idk how i even win games kinda vibe.

VOTE: lemon

fucking sold me just like the cook sell in the mason game we had (rip power trip masons tho lmfao)
In post 705, samantha97 wrote:
In post 704, WindowsXP wrote:is it bad that i wanna say i wanna sheep vasex today and like basically make them town leader like i fucking trust this dude to be town 100% and they are putting in effort i am unable to really put into a large game like i hate sorting 20 other people LOL
this is mafia bookmark this post
Don’t get me wrong. I thought that post was horrific. I highlighted it myself.
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Post Post #4488 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 6:01 am

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In post 2176, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 706, WindowsXP wrote:vasex u got prior mafia experience? i can like really feel it - like i legit would like nom u for rising star for just your play this far regardless of your alignment you're playing dominantly and very cool
What. The. Fuck.

Okay. Replace Samantha with XP in my group.
Right here.
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Post Post #4489 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 6:02 am

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Like that same train of thought was terrible in my mind.
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Post Post #4490 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 6:04 am

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e-1

VOTE: WindowsXP
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Post Post #4491 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 6:04 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #4492 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 6:05 am

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don't hammer without letting them post pls
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Post Post #4493 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 6:05 am

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Too fast. My vote is there in spirit but I want to get some more perspectives out.
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Post Post #4494 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 6:08 am

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Look I am a firm believer that Scum is smarter than piling all on Town or hard defending their buddies all the time. The answer is never simple. I have been pinged by Anastasia and XP at different times I think you guys can see that. I’m not sure of either. I have disliked the bulk of NDMath’s votes but XP’s history is also pretty horrific, and if Nero is Town then that would sort of solidify it.
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Post Post #4495 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 6:09 am

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Kerset felt Nero was Town. Kerset is no longer here. There might have been an extra incentive to drown that voice out. And they also advocated for Anastasia. It’s worth the shot.
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Post Post #4496 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 6:13 am

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Yeah, let's not have another flash wagon
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Post Post #4497 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 6:13 am

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In post 4185, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 3602, Kerset wrote:Ok now why windows is town:
Look at your previous game and check which one is typical scum behavior
AScum first accuse their partners and then back off once wagon on them gets serious.

BScum first defend their partners and then hop in once wagon on them gets serious.


Observe your previous games and you will see that B is the common case.

Also look at windows arguments, I didn't agree with them but they were reasonable. You can even see that the previous site thing was real.
I’m not the only one doing it. And Kerset has a solid point here.
Kerset also defended XP though. I don’t know man.
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Post Post #4498 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 6:13 am

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I was out and about during the day on Sunday and then checked in during the evening only to find that an elim had been rushed through without even giving std the chance to claim etc
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Post Post #4499 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 6:21 am

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NDMath/Nero/Ana were all anti T3 lim D1 and on a town elim D2. This is a good place to start. Yes, it is a simplification to say that play x was on wagon y therefore they are alignment z, but ultimately at a fundamental level, scum have to get miselims and protect their own, at least to some extent

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