everything about what you said here... it's perfectly reasonable to not want to lim slots with no content... if anything, I think you're scum here for this postIn post 1322, Kazyan wrote:If Beeboy flips scum, we should seriously consider whether NBEE was trying to save a scumbuddy here.
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Raya's toadette read stood out because she gave the reasoning as toadette having a contentful entrance in comparison to others. fine for earlygame, but Raya continued to question scumreads on the slot while catching and the read feels like it has more strength than is warranted.In post 1321, Save The Dragons wrote:
okay, why?In post 1314, Chara wrote:i think Raya's scummy, we can talk about that.
that and the Kaz read, which i did talk to Raya about and i can see the angle there, but it does also seem to me like an easy read to make, you see busywork and call it scummy and then you can use that to direct the rest of your posting. i remember Raya quoting a post someone else made about how the pro posting/anti posting list was weird, but then Kaz did put out a readlist afterwards, and Raya interacted with the part about the busywork list being pointless and possibly lamisty but it didn't feel like she was really digging into why it was made.
i'd like to discuss both these points when she returns to the thread though. the problem may also be that Raya's stuck playing catchup whenever she has time to post."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
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I am townhunting, i.e. i can't form strong scumreads so i'm trying to form strong townreads.In post 1254, Kazyan wrote:
Farkran, my impression of you is that you're townreading basically everyone. Could you sum up who you think are most likely to be scum, if anyone?In post 1249, Farkran wrote:
Also this is 100% town!norweeIn post 1242, NorwegianboyEE wrote:It is Unwd. And you're one of the more arrogant players i've met to think you've "caught me" because i made some light jokes in a game.
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IIn post 1325, Andante wrote:everything about what you said here... it's perfectly reasonable to not want to lim slots with no content... if anything, I think you're scum here for this poststronglydisagree. Staying quiet benefits no one except for scum. That's why we policy-elim lurkers and have a prod timer.- NorwegianboyEE
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uhh what exactly makes you more confident that I'm scum?In post 1278, kdowns wrote:I’m about to take my last final but I feel much more confident in this.
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this is why i'm proposing a non-beeboy wagon right now. i think Raya's scummy, we can talk about that.In post 1304, NorwegianboyEE wrote:But what if someone vigs Beeboy and we vote someone that will react more to pressure instead.
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This was actually the gold standard back then lolIn post 1329, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Policy lim lurkers, jesus. You're definitely new around here aren't you.Protect yourself from the back of your mind- Farkran
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what is your read on toadette and kaz?In post 1326, Chara wrote:
Raya's toadette read stood out because she gave the reasoning as toadette having a contentful entrance in comparison to others. fine for earlygame, but Raya continued to question scumreads on the slot while catching and the read feels like it has more strength than is warranted.In post 1321, Save The Dragons wrote:
okay, why?In post 1314, Chara wrote:i think Raya's scummy, we can talk about that.
that and the Kaz read, which i did talk to Raya about and i can see the angle there, but it does also seem to me like an easy read to make, you see busywork and call it scummy and then you can use that to direct the rest of your posting. i remember Raya quoting a post someone else made about how the pro posting/anti posting list was weird, but then Kaz did put out a readlist afterwards, and Raya interacted with the part about the busywork list being pointless and possibly lamisty but it didn't feel like she was really digging into why it was made.
i'd like to discuss both these points when she returns to the thread though. the problem may also be that Raya's stuck playing catchup whenever she has time to post.aka Fenrir- Chara
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policy elimating lurkers is pro-town. scum need to be forced to make content and town needs to do their best too or replace out. this games ruleset even supports that idea, though it's more for the health of the game than for town.
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Just tell me to go fuck myself next time instead of being passive-aggressive.In post 1329, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Policy lim lurkers, jesus. You're definitely new around here aren't you.- Kazyan
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I mean logically it makes sense but I'm not sure that necessarily makes it townIn post 1147, Chara wrote:
it's so hard to scumread Kaz when they make posts like this.In post 817, Kazyan wrote:Idea: People can find so many reasons to scumread Andante mostly because she has so many posts. Thus, more chances to say something someone dislikes, regardless of alignment.
i also feel like i know how they think more than most of the thread and on a day 1 like this that makes me not want to vote them.
yeah he didn't answer your question which I was actually interested in the answer toIn post 1155, Dwlee99 wrote:I was really looking forward to the fifteen minutes of firebringer time. Unlucky.
I also think this is just a ridiculous sentimentIn post 1162, Kazyan wrote:Also, notice how quiet things are from former hyperposters (I'm particularly side-eyeing unwnd) now that I'm the center of attention.
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Assuming you're still catching up, can you let me know why this is once you're done? I asked in-thread earlier and I didn't get a response.In post 1339, SirCakez wrote:VOTE: kaz I think I SR this more strongly than Andante nowI prefer they, thanks :)- Chara
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i can see how my comment was read like that, but i was talking more about vibes than the comment making logical sense. like, Kaz saying what they want and having a strong, potentionally contentious position that gives a good idea of what sort of player they are and how they approach mafia, is why i townread them. it was just a random example of the style of Kaz's posting. the way they reacted to calls for making content earlygame also tracks with this. it just doesn't feel like they're trying to appease anybody even as they sort of went along with what i and others were saying.In post 1339, SirCakez wrote:I mean logically it makes sense but I'm not sure that necessarily makes it town"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
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I think Norwe is town here. they are not playing like when they slanked as my scum buddy in a recent game. much more effort.
my thing here is I'm worried beeboy is just playing like this now and he just happens to have rolled scum a lot recentlyIn post 1178, unwnd wrote:Another aspect of it really is the fact I'm pretty sure Beeboy is not posting because he's scum. This is something I'm not really a fan of in general. It's exactly as Pooky said where it's reaching a trust tell and it has to be stopped. I will vote Beeboy every time under this pretense and if people don't see my own interpretations then they could at least have faith that this tell is truth. The people who are skirting around the issue at this point in a confbiased perspective are just potential mates who either A) pissed at him for flaking again B) trying to not lose a partner due to dumb shit. I don't really think all partners would assume the same thing and just tell me 'oh well maybe he's just busy' but I think Norwee and Farkran's response to it was the worst. Seriously Farkran how could you possibly townread Beeboy here for like two fucking posts lol. That immediately just tripped my alarms and Norwee is again playing to the whole latching on aspect.
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still catching up but which part? kaz or andante?In post 1341, Dwlee99 wrote:
Assuming you're still catching up, can you let me know why this is once you're done? I asked in-thread earlier and I didn't get a response.In post 1339, SirCakez wrote:VOTE: kaz I think I SR this more strongly than Andante nowBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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My other reasoning still standsIn post 1343, SirCakez wrote:I think Norwe is town here. they are not playing like when they slanked as my scum buddy in a recent game. much more effort.
my thing here is I'm worried beeboy is just playing like this now and he just happens to have rolled scum a lot recentlyIn post 1178, unwnd wrote:Another aspect of it really is the fact I'm pretty sure Beeboy is not posting because he's scum. This is something I'm not really a fan of in general. It's exactly as Pooky said where it's reaching a trust tell and it has to be stopped. I will vote Beeboy every time under this pretense and if people don't see my own interpretations then they could at least have faith that this tell is truth. The people who are skirting around the issue at this point in a confbiased perspective are just potential mates who either A) pissed at him for flaking again B) trying to not lose a partner due to dumb shit. I don't really think all partners would assume the same thing and just tell me 'oh well maybe he's just busy' but I think Norwee and Farkran's response to it was the worst. Seriously Farkran how could you possibly townread Beeboy here for like two fucking posts lol. That immediately just tripped my alarms and Norwee is again playing to the whole latching on aspect.
there's no counterevidence of him being active as town
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if beeboy is town Pooky is probably scum. he would just take the free miselim here and think he could get a pass for it because of his playstyle.
StD is town methinksIn post 1247, Save The Dragons wrote:
again, what consensus? you had one vote on you. even with unwnd's post i'd hardly call that consensus.In post 1212, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Well your vote on me is still lame and it feels like you're just following the consensus.In post 1204, Save The Dragons wrote:
you should reread my post then, i'm questioning why shiro thought the andante wagon was bad?In post 1201, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Unwd posted that paragraph about me because i was relatively inactive earlier today and then you voted me, it felt really opportunistic to me. Especially since you seemed to be questioning a vote on me from Shiro earlier on?In post 1197, Save The Dragons wrote:how is it opportunistic when you had one vote on you
i'm voting you based on a gut read.
i don't think you're taking pressure well. and instead of re-evaluating, you double down on your OMGUS vote.
where are your independent thoughts? all I keep seeing from you is sheeping onto other people's thoughtsIn post 1254, Kazyan wrote:
Farkran, my impression of you is that you're townreading basically everyone. Could you sum up who you think are most likely to be scum, if anyone?In post 1249, Farkran wrote:
Also this is 100% town!norweeIn post 1242, NorwegianboyEE wrote:It is Unwd. And you're one of the more arrogant players i've met to think you've "caught me" because i made some light jokes in a game.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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this post is so disingenuous lolIn post 1287, Chara wrote:i support the beeboy wagon but i feel like the day can be spent on things besides voting someone who isn't here to react to it. but ending the day on a beeboy elimination is fine with me.
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