Large Normal 232—Sibyl's Elegy [GAME OVER]

[Anastasia]

unfortunate

are you going to have time to come carry us to victory?

my previous love interest met an unfortunate end

[Cabd]

Who was that, anyways?

Why do you think Nero has a murder-blinder for me.

Why did not-saved the dragons hate me so?

[Anastasia]

I was relying on Kerset but he's dead now :<

[KittyTacky]

Was busy, will backread through the thread and respond soon.

[Enchant]

Only checked flips.

What i miss?

[KittyTacky]

Reads:
Hard town: Marky Mark, Rathe
Town: Nero Cain
Lean town: NDMath, WindowsXP, dcl,

Anya

, DeathNote
Null: Vasex,

Kerset

, samantha,

STD

, DGB,

Dunnstral

, Arte, Andres
Lean scum: Enchant, Cabd
Scum: KittyTacky,

Etine

Most of my null reads are basically people who haven't donr anything.

I don't think T3's scumplay was massively nuanced and I'm willing to bet that he would have tried to sneak one of his buddies into his townreads. I'm town (obvs you can't know this for sure) and Rathe has been on the money so far in terms of reading the game so I think Nero is the likely candidate here.

I also wouldn't be shocked if there was 1+ scum in the lean town bracket (ie NDMath)

Seconding this. If I was scum in that position I'd put a buddy in my townies.

[Enchant]

And who you think is T3 buddy?

[Marky Mark]

Rathe's 878 was really weird and seemed to be suggesting Vasex thought Kitty was a Mafia cop, which was a really random/weird conclusion to arrive at. IGMEOY Rathe

i know this is old but can u explain what u meant by random n weird

Well rather than a more general question to Vasex like "why are you still voting KittyTacky after they've claimed?" you specifically asked them if it was because they thought that Kitty could be a Mafia Cop. This just seemed to be a very specific conclusion to ask about and the Mafia Cop thing seemed to come out of nowhere - if I'm trying to sort a slot I would tend towards asking them reasonably general questions so that I am not steering their answers.

[Marky Mark]

I still want to trust my townread on vasex but it does seem less likely now.

Enlighten me on why you still are TRing Vasex to an extent given his record of defending T3 for most of D1 and then pushing a miselim wagon D2?

[Marky Mark]

Math's reads are also pretty consensusy in that post, which was something that scum!them was guility of in the Bending mini

[Marky Mark]

I'm not particularly gifted at role mechanics, but I reckon it would be worth the neighbour coming forward. Yes, we could get potentially more info if we wait but there is a good likelihood (not 100% as others have said) that they will be town and this could shed light on wagons today and help us to avoid potential miselims.

[Enchant]

Is this known who is Dunn neighbour?

[Marky Mark]

1.) Can people not voting (looking at you here NDMath) commit to a vote or at least declare intent if doing so would put a wagon over the line
2.) I'd take XP as a compromise lim at the end of the day but I think we can do better. There's a few of us who have voiced SRing at least some of Nero/NDMath/Vasex/Ana, so let's try and find some common ground. I'll kick things off by consolidating with Andres onto Nero

VOTE: Nero

--pedit @ Enchant, Dunn's neighbour is not known and hasn't come forward yet

[KittyTacky]

And who you think is T3 buddy?

It's either Nero, WinXP, or NDMath IMO. Leaning more towards NDMath there due to being pretty quiet all game. I have an innate mistrust of lurkers.

Did they claim anything?

[KittyTacky]

VOTE: NDMath

[Nero Cain]

Why should the neighbor come forward and shine a giant spotlight that says "scum shoot here!" although CABD is trying to argue there's multiple scum there so eh.

[Cabd]

I mean.... there's already a "scum shoot here" clear list with multiple names on it... expanding the pool of names isn't bad even if they were hard clears (which they are not, nothing stops a (traitor-groupscum-town) type of hood.

[Enchant]

There is indeed "All mafia" neighbour in my last game, but that was theme game, not normal.

[Cabd]

There is indeed "All mafia" neighbour in my last game, but that was theme game, not normal.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game

Literally nothing in the normal setup rules forbid a scum-scum hood from existing, or scum-scum-town, etc.

[Vasex]

Im alive. I'll try to find some time in few hours

[Enchant]

There is indeed "All mafia" neighbour in my last game, but that was theme game, not normal.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game

Literally nothing in the normal setup rules forbid a scum-scum hood from existing, or scum-scum-town, etc.

Yes, i acknowledge that, and that game also runned with promise all roles meeting normal guidelines.

This is just plain rare and looks like some insanity.

[Marky Mark]

I mean.... there's already a "scum shoot here" clear list with multiple names on it... expanding the pool of names isn't bad even if they were hard clears (which they are not, nothing stops a (traitor-groupscum-town) type of hood.

This.

[Marky Mark]

Also the fact that Nero is fighting against the neighbour coming out just makes me want it more.

[Nero Cain]

I'm not really fighting against it I just don't think it's the best idea but the fact that the 3 ppl I think are scum are all being a siren about it makes me think it is indeed a bad idea. let's hear some opinions from others.

[KittyTacky]

All-scum neighborhood is completely pointless IMO. The scum might as well claim being in a hood without there actually being one as it's undetectable.