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Post Post #3300 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 7:17 am

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In post 3298, SirCakez wrote:its not just VFT tho Kismet agrees and kismet is very obviously town
So is prism though! DC is actually confirmed scum if prism is town fypov
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Post Post #3301 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 7:17 am

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Honestly you don't have to trust me on this but I TR prism more than I TR bork
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Post Post #3302 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 7:18 am

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In post 3300, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 3298, SirCakez wrote:its not just VFT tho Kismet agrees and kismet is very obviously town
So is prism though! DC is actually confirmed scum if prism is town fypov
not if mom is scum because scum probably just couldn't qh in that case
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Post Post #3303 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 7:19 am

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I guess, I sorta feel like she'd at least check the thread once in a while to see if a quickhammer was possible

I also could've kept my vote on DC to make it easier for her
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Post Post #3304 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 7:19 am

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what if its like (dc/mom/notsci)
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Post Post #3305 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 7:20 am

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Imo notsci pushes on you harder to avoid a buddy being limmed.
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Post Post #3306 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 7:31 am

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Honestly if there was anything I could do to get people to trust me and vote with me I'd do it but I just don't know what that is.
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Post Post #3307 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 7:55 am

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In post 3301, Infinity 324 wrote:Honestly you don't have to trust me on this but I TR prism more than I TR bork
therefore prism is more likely to be right than i am?
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Post Post #3308 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 8:09 am

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I was trying to say that from cakez's POV either prism or DC is scum because of quickhammers, but I guess he disagrees.

I think it's very important to vote with town too because if 2 town are voting wrong we lose anyway. We have to assume that most of the town are voting correctly.
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Post Post #3309 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 1:31 pm

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ok i just feel the need to point out that we've had 3 different people within quickhammer range, and i think all for at least 12 hours. so unless we want to posit that the scumteam is exactly mom/dc/prism, i think part of the explanation is that scum is not necessarily being very good at quickhammering this game

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Post Post #3310 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 1:31 pm

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In post 3281, Infinity 324 wrote:No no no
yes yes yes

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Post Post #3311 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 1:33 pm

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In post 3282, Infinity 324 wrote:Skitt should be TRing me now I'm pretty sure, she was all "look at this drop off in activity" and then when I get another burst of activity she doesn't stop to reconsider. Especially when she already reconsidered for a moment when I unvoted DC

With VFT scum mom is almost always town
i mean you've been ignoring my read on someone that you know i'm good at reading in order to push through someone i think is town in lylo, and are now turnign to calling me scum with them
from my pov what am i supposed to be thinking abt u here

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Post Post #3312 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 1:33 pm

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In post 3290, Infinity 324 wrote:Mom also has a townier ISO than DC in a vacuum, the response to the nacho wagon felt like she was by herself against a bunch of scum who all had an agenda to kill nacho.
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Post Post #3313 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 1:38 pm

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In post 3293, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 3264, Momrangal wrote:Like I dont understand why people are keen to just not respond to me

I dont understand how cake goes from not wanting to touch NM at all D1 to tunneling the shit out of him D2

I've cased both of them, and even after the NM scum flip no one is willing to entertain my theory?
Can we revisit this later? It's really just you or DC today
and like mom's post to me, in the context of imminently getting wagoned, is, uh, Not Great,so i dont' love that this is your only response to it

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Post Post #3314 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 1:38 pm

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In post 3294, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 3292, SirCakez wrote:not gonna lie this is skeeving me out Infinity
What would help with this? I very strongly believe this game only makes sense with a VFT/DC team,
and my strong preference for DC over mom is mostly a reaction to skitt going the opposite way
. Like you know skitt isn't out of her scumrange here yeah? When the game doesn't make sense you have to look at the strong scum players
idk what the bolded means
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Post Post #3315 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 1:39 pm

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In post 3297, Infinity 324 wrote:Why does scum!me suddenly get a burst of motivation in a very slow game I'm probably going to win anyway? It makes much more sense that I suddenly came to a realization
because if we live in a scum-mom scum-you town-dc universe i'm slowly wrenching away this win ...
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Post Post #3316 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 1:40 pm

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In post 3301, Infinity 324 wrote:Honestly you don't have to trust me on this but I TR prism more than I TR bork
and sicne when is this a thing?
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Post Post #3317 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 1:52 pm

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In post 3311, Venus Fly Trap wrote:
In post 3282, Infinity 324 wrote:Skitt should be TRing me now I'm pretty sure, she was all "look at this drop off in activity" and then when I get another burst of activity she doesn't stop to reconsider. Especially when she already reconsidered for a moment when I unvoted DC

With VFT scum mom is almost always town
i mean you've been ignoring my read on someone that you know i'm good at reading in order to push through someone i think is town in lylo, and are now turnign to calling me scum with them
from my pov what am i supposed to be thinking abt u here

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I'm out of my scumrange, does it matter that I think you're scum with one of your townreads? This is silly
In post 3309, Venus Fly Trap wrote:ok i just feel the need to point out that we've had 3 different people within quickhammer range, and i think all for at least 12 hours. so unless we want to posit that the scumteam is exactly mom/dc/prism, i think part of the explanation is that scum is not necessarily being very good at quickhammering this game

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I think it's much more likely that at least 1 scum was either voting or voted each time
In post 3313, Venus Fly Trap wrote:
In post 3293, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 3264, Momrangal wrote:Like I dont understand why people are keen to just not respond to me

I dont understand how cake goes from not wanting to touch NM at all D1 to tunneling the shit out of him D2

I've cased both of them, and even after the NM scum flip no one is willing to entertain my theory?
Can we revisit this later? It's really just you or DC today
and like mom's post to me, in the context of imminently getting wagoned, is, uh, Not Great,so i dont' love that this is your only response to it

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It shows lack of awareness of the gamestate, which if anything is towny. I don't see the scum motivation of trying to go after cakez when that is clearly not happening
In post 3314, Venus Fly Trap wrote:
In post 3294, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 3292, SirCakez wrote:not gonna lie this is skeeving me out Infinity
What would help with this? I very strongly believe this game only makes sense with a VFT/DC team,
and my strong preference for DC over mom is mostly a reaction to skitt going the opposite way
. Like you know skitt isn't out of her scumrange here yeah? When the game doesn't make sense you have to look at the strong scum players
idk what the bolded means
I only started being against the mom elim when you started pushing it so strongly
In post 3315, Venus Fly Trap wrote:
In post 3297, Infinity 324 wrote:Why does scum!me suddenly get a burst of motivation in a very slow game I'm probably going to win anyway? It makes much more sense that I suddenly came to a realization
because if we live in a scum-mom scum-you town-dc universe i'm slowly wrenching away this win ...
My burst of motivation came before your mom push so ?
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Post Post #3318 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 2:01 pm

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I'm fine going on Momrangal despite Infinity's opposition, if VFT is scum I'm fine with this it's not even good play just overkill because pushing me was a win.

VOTE: Momrangal

Now that I know there's no daytalk I think any idea of quickhammers is stupid because it requires very specific coordination at night w/ the scumteam to appropriately signal to the point where it's not even worth the trouble.

As much as I love putting pine tar on the figurative baseball as scum I think it is incredibly, incredibly obvious that I have been clueless all day re: daytalk.
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Post Post #3319 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 2:01 pm

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My only hesitance here is I think VFT is probably wrong on DC, and today is the best chance of strongarming that vote through, but w/e
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Post Post #3320 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 2:02 pm

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This is just like DnC, you're not reading me based on my play but are instead scumreading me because it fits your agenda

Town!skitt doesn't use shallow logic like "you're not listening to me therefore scum" she uses what she knows about me and how I tend to play as both alignments
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Post Post #3321 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 2:02 pm

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Literally VFT goes "I feel really good about Iverson Kismet" and the game is over so idk what VFT would be doing as scum besides trying their hardest to gamethrow
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Post Post #3322 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 2:03 pm

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In post 3318, Iverson wrote:if VFT is scum I'm fine with this it's not even good play just overkill because pushing me was a win.
I'm not sure there was actually support for an elim on you? Maybe early on I would've voted you? Idk
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Post Post #3323 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 2:05 pm

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Post Post #3324 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 2:05 pm

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In post 3322, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 3318, Iverson wrote:if VFT is scum I'm fine with this it's not even good play just overkill because pushing me was a win.
I'm not sure there was actually support for an elim on you? Maybe early on I would've voted you? Idk
Cakez/Kismet were both on me and willing to go on me. Hypothetically the scumteam could be Cakez/DC/VFT but I strongly doubt it.

VFT flipping the read over just letting me happen is one of the moves that might look cool as scum but is throwing away a win that is incredibly obvious, ie. not merely overlooked
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