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[humaneatingmonkey]

i can't insult you any more than your play has this far

you'll mature

[osuka]

you're saying gerain voteparked you - t3 isn't doing fucking anything either. why is t3 "very engaged" but gerain is okay?

[osuka]

if anything, in a universe where lemons is scum, why on earth would he shift from pushing gerain to you, if gerain is looking like an easier mislynch? what the fuck?

who's got a wagon when he voted, osuka?

i'm not saying gerain is an easier wagon, _you_ said that. are you trying to confuse me?

[osuka]

doing a bang up job so far

[humaneatingmonkey]

T3 has been open with his reads and asking other people for clarification. Gerain hasn't done both of these things.

[osuka]

being open with reads means fuck all. his posts are shallow and you and i have both written an order of magnitude more words over the course of the past hour than t3 has in this game and the last one combined

[osuka]

he'll ask a question and then promptly fuck off and completely forget about it. he'll ask questions, sure, but they're typically really not good questions at all and he never follows up. that slot has had a completely empty game, it's literally just a shell

[humaneatingmonkey]

i'm not saying gerain is an easier wagon, _you_ said that. are you trying to confuse me?

i didn't say gerain was an easier mislynch. i said that if town!Lemons had both me and gerain equally as his scumread (which, I have already demonstrated his ISO doesn't reflect his claim that gerain and I are equal), he could have done something with gerain as well.

I suggest asking questions to make sure your assumptions are right, before projecting your stupidity on other people.

[humaneatingmonkey]

he'll ask a question and then promptly fuck off and completely forget about it. he'll ask questions, sure, but they're typically really not good questions at all and he never follows up. that slot has had a completely empty game, it's literally just a shell

that's your opinion, and I disagree. i think his activity so far demonstrates that he's playing a town wincon. after all, what else could be done from his perspective and playstyle?

[humaneatingmonkey]

huh... why would you say gerain is a mislynch? that's duly noted.

[osuka]

you're clearly somewhat challenged so let me lay this out for you

2. Lemons' scumlist, which includes gerain and me, but who didn't vote gerain. (despite the pressure that gerain has from people like Ivyeo, Andante, and Dunnstral — making him a very viable wagon).

his scumlist includes you and gerain, but he votes you instead of gerain. you have a problem with that, because he did so "despite the pressure that gerain has from [other] people [...] making him a very viable wagon". this very clearly implies that gerain is a more viable wagon than yourself, because even though you have more votes on your slot, somehow you believe that to be the case. he COULD have done something with gerain, yes, but instead he chose you. why is that a point of contention? how could you possibly infer alignment from that?

maybe learn to write?

[osuka]

he'll ask a question and then promptly fuck off and completely forget about it. he'll ask questions, sure, but they're typically really not good questions at all and he never follows up. that slot has had a completely empty game, it's literally just a shell

that's your opinion, and I disagree. i think his activity so far demonstrates that he's playing a town wincon. after all, what else could be done from his perspective and playstyle?

he could be playing the game? he has less posts than the fucking mod for fuck's sakes

[osuka]

huh... why would you say gerain is a mislynch? that's duly noted.

assuming lemons scum almost universally means you and gerain are town, because there is zero reason for scum lemons to be pushing either slot at this point in time

nice try though

[osuka]

the fact that you're actively trying to excuse t3's play this game is making me sick. i can't wrap my head around that

[humaneatingmonkey]

i could be a god-level writer, but that's not gonna make a difference for your shit-level reading comprehension.

i have already demonstrated that if Lemons hate the playstyle he associates with T3, and is inclined to pressure that, a consistent gameplay would have meant he would have done the same to gerain.

[osuka]

like not even in terms of alignment. you can't tell alignment for a slot that produces no content, because at that point you're just guessing

it's just that he joins a game and just doesn't fucking play it. like why is he even here? he's just making the quality of the game worse for everyone else in the list, regardless of alignment, because there's some slot that is part of the game but is not actually taking part in anything, so the game is missing a part that it shouldn't be

[humaneatingmonkey]

assuming lemons scum almost universally means you and gerain are town, because there is zero reason for scum lemons to be pushing either slot at this point in time

nice try though

zero reason? okay.

[osuka]

i have already addressed that and your failure to acknowledge it either means you can't parse and understand a simple sentence, or that you didn't bother reading it at all, or you're just misrepresenting the state of the conversation to try to make me look stupid when in fact, i'm only stupid because you killed half my brain cells

[osuka]

assuming lemons scum almost universally means you and gerain are town, because there is zero reason for scum lemons to be pushing either slot at this point in time

nice try though

zero reason? okay.

i meant bussing either slot, that's my bad

does 512 make more sense now?

[osuka]

like if lemons is scum he has nearly nothing to gain from bussing a teammate this early. i can't imagine you and lemons are both scum here

[humaneatingmonkey]

im done. sit on what i told you after you're done with your tantrums.

[osuka]

you've said nothing that substantially progressed the game

why are you even that attached to the fact that lemons chose to push you instead of gerain? why are you so defensive about it? your play reeks of scum so far

[geraintm]

For now, I want everyone to declare what they're doing and what their motive is. I'll go first.

Nothing and I don't have a motive

I'm leaning town on Ivyeo for the reaction to what geraintm posted (regardless of geraintm alignment)

As for geraintm, it would have been towny if this was the first instance of them doing this, but it's not, so it isn't. They can easily be copying what they did as town, as scum here.

I'm not sure how to reply .
I am not sure how on earth I could not be scummy in your eyes.
I am behaving like I have done previously as town, therefore I am scum faking jt.
If I wasn't behaving like I have done previously as town, would I get called out then too?

so you're concerned about not looking scummy? strange way to phrase that

why is ti strange to not want to appear scummy? i don't want to get voted off, so i want to look townie/not look scummy

[geraintm]

on the other hand, geraintm looks scummy as hell. nothing about this dude makes me think "he's playing to win as town", and everything about this dude makes me think "he's playing to win as scum."

it is amazing to me how i play gets so many people so worked up.
right now, i have nothing to offer the game except my claim. i find it incredibly hard/impossible to find scum day 1. i do try and get better as the game goes on though...

[geraintm]

alright so what's your case on gerain

all i can think is "town would never claim VT in their first post, only scum would do that"

is that basically it?