Large Normal 232—Sibyl's Elegy [GAME OVER]

[Andresvmb]

Then do the opposite of whatever Vasex wants to do. It’s the best way to guarantee we don’t execute Town.

[Enchant]

Lets kill NDMath and if it is scum the next one - Andre

I dont understand mechanics, where is the fruit you sent to Samantha

1. He lying
2. Samantha lying about claim
3. Samantha lying about fruit and pretending
4. Someone with block ability

1 and 2 are self explaining, 3 is something dumb, why mafia would do that, 4 is strange, because why Kitty not blocked 1n then

[DrippingGoofball]

No one has admitted to being a roleblocker.

[Enchant]

If you are mafia with block, raise hand.

[Nero Cain]

And you have been so correct that you voted to execute XP and STD, and defended T3. So I don’t think you have ANY legs to stand one to call anybody else’s reasoning shit.

sure, I agree. This hasn't been a stellar performance from me. I just don't think "s/he said this, so I'm going to follow that." are great arguments. and as ana pointed out XP stopped town reading Math so you aren't even being factually correct. If you want to do the opposite of Vasex and sheep me on Cabd then cool, glad we are on the same page.

[Vasex]

Vasex 1027
WindowsXP 568
Andresvmb 363
Rathe 324
Nero Cain 281
Marky Mark 277
Anastasia 275
Kerset 201
Enchant 197
DrippingGoofball 195
samantha97 187
Save The Dragons 174
Cabd 167
bloodhail 159
KittyTacky 138
Etine 131
Almost50 118
Dunnstral 115
The Bulge 99
T3 95
Anya 94
NDMath 20
DeathNote 18
DkKoba 16
Artemiana 8
deep-city-lights 5
PookyTheMagicalBear 1
Gypyx 1
Momrangal 1

[samantha97]

4. Someone with block ability

4 is strange, because why Kitty not blocked 1n then

yeah I think this means andres or kitty is mafia

the only way it would not be is if it's a "night 2 night 3" kind of roleblocker, which I guess could explain t3's claim a little more, but it's definitely not an odd-night roleblocker because of kitty

[Andresvmb]

It’s possible that Scum decided not to RB Kitty since they had been directed to check on Town. But you’re right, it does seem like a natural place to block.

[Andresvmb]

Vasex 1027
WindowsXP 568
Andresvmb 363
Rathe 324
Nero Cain 281
Marky Mark 277
Anastasia 275
Kerset 201
Enchant 197
DrippingGoofball 195
samantha97 187
Save The Dragons 174
Cabd 167
bloodhail 159
KittyTacky 138
Etine 131
Almost50 118
Dunnstral 115
The Bulge 99
T3 95
Anya 94
NDMath 20
DeathNote 18
DkKoba 16
Artemiana 8
deep-city-lights 5
PookyTheMagicalBear 1
Gypyx 1
Momrangal 1

Are you trying to say that because you’re the top posted you can’t be Scum? Is that your argument?

[Andresvmb]

top posted

Top poster*

[Vasex]

im just the best of the best

[Nero Cain]

vasex is just a less charismatic flavor leaf

[samantha97]

VOTE: andresvmb

I wanna resolve this role triangle today

also, of the list of vanillas, I can't imagine why you'd pick me first if you're sincere

[Enchant]

Here's high possibility of 1 mafia in Samantha/Andre/Kitty. So we need vote one of them. Forget about Math.

I will decide who first later, i need read ISO and i don't have will to do it right now.

[Andresvmb]

VOTE: andresvmb

I wanna resolve this role triangle today

also, of the list of vanillas, I can't imagine why you'd pick me first if you're sincere

Why am I the acceptable choice to you? Just curious.

[samantha97]

Why am I the acceptable choice to you? Just curious.

rathe was gated
bloodhail claims gated (I am super paranoid of second-claim odd/even-nights in general though) + claimed ndmath vanilla with it before ndmath claimed
you claim ungated with basically the same role as bloodhail + claim roleblocked + claim a target that doesn't makes sense from my point of view
and it's not like it's impossible for kitty to be mafia but there's more reasons why they wouldn't be than you

and I know you said you wanted to be confirmed through rathe, but targeting them instead of cabd or someone actually contentious like dkkoba night 1 doesn't have a mafia-hunting mindset to me

[bloodhail]

VOTE: andresvmb

[Andresvmb]

Why am I the acceptable choice to you? Just curious.

rathe was gated
bloodhail claims gated (I am super paranoid of second-claim odd/even-nights in general though) + claimed ndmath vanilla with it before ndmath claimed
you claim ungated with basically the same role as bloodhail + claim roleblocked + claim a target that doesn't makes sense from my point of view
and it's not like it's impossible for kitty to be mafia but there's more reasons why they wouldn't be than you

and I know you said you wanted to be confirmed through rathe, but targeting them instead of cabd or someone actually contentious like dkkoba night 1 doesn't have a mafia-hunting mindset to me

So you’re solve of my slot is entirely mechanical? So you can explain all of my play as coming from Scum? In your world, instead of claiming Vanilla and basking in the fact that I have defended Town repeatedly and pushed for Scum more than once, you think I make a suboptimal claim with suboptimal targets in your view under no pressure just because?

[Andresvmb]

VOTE: bloodhail

[Andresvmb]

Never mind that the claim confirmed a Town PR that made a check on a player I was aggressively pushing.

And how did bloodhail react to my Claim? Can you remind me of that? Because they interacted with me immediately after, and they didn’t seem all that suspicious that I claimed basically what their role was until some time after.

[Andresvmb]

In fact they TR my play even if I was claiming a PR that could be confirmed but hadn’t been up until then.

[Marky Mark]

Here's high possibility of 1 mafia in Samantha/Andre/Kitty. So we need vote one of them. Forget about Math.

I will decide who first later, i need read ISO and i don't have will to do it right now.

"Lets forget about a v scummy slot to try and hit a 1 out of 3 chance" (yes, in theory there could be 2+ maf in that group, but it seems unlikely)

Presumably we can at least verify that Andres is a fruit vendor by asking them to send fruit to a VT who is reasonably widely TRed like DGB tonight. I definitely agree that this is something we need to unpick in order to win the game, but rn it feels like there are ways we could gain more info.

I personally reckon that kitty is v likely to be town as me being miller would be weird setup design wise without any town cops, even given the mafia cop angle.

[Marky Mark]

Anyways, I am now V/LA till Friday, so expect limited input from me. Take care all

[Anastasia]

I townread Andres on dayplay from his push on T3 on D1 and his aggravation D2 with people who suspected him.

I don't see the point of diverting to mechanics when we have suspicious players now getting close to elim.

[Almost50]

oh yeah almost50 do you wanna claim today or

Is it an important issue to you? Don't you TR me anyway?