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I loathe playing scum, I'm surprised you didn't knowIn post 3837, Disaster Cartel wrote:
are you really going to make me find quotes of you talking about how you have higher WIM as scum or can you just admit it and save us both the troubleIn post 3781, Morning Tweet wrote:
Why would i ever be happy about rolling scum genuine questionIn post 3756, Disaster Cartel wrote:hi MT, nice to have you, sorry you rolled scum although I guess you're p happy about that
because I will go back and find them, because I remember very clearly telling you in a game that I thought you were town partly bc you seemed energised and you said something along the lines of "that's not reliable and if anything is probably +scum for me"
I have a tendency to try hard as scum but that's because i suffer from a fear of letting scummates down, not because i enjoy it- Disaster Cartel
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SCENARIO 1: we bus NM. the next day, we lim bulge. mom leaves. we're in mylo with two town gone and 3 scum gone. we look p good for having bussed NM all the way through and the day probably goes smoothly.
SCENARIO 2: we kill bulge. NM leaves. mom is limmed. we're in mylo with two town gone and 3 scum gone. the game is a horrible fucking shitfest because our correct push on NM is undermined by having jumped off him to vote bulge despite there being exactly no need to.
let me be very clear: unless you think that we couldn't lim bulge the next day in scenario (1) the two worlds are functionally no different in terms of who is alive. the basically ONLY difference is how we're perceived. so do you disagree that bulge would have been very limmable the next day, or do you not? and if you don't, why did ydra vote bulge? just to make this fun game a little bit extra challenging because it was too easy- Disaster Cartel
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you're being pedantic but w/eIn post 3851, Morning Tweet wrote:
I loathe playing scum, I'm surprised you didn't knowIn post 3837, Disaster Cartel wrote:
are you really going to make me find quotes of you talking about how you have higher WIM as scum or can you just admit it and save us both the troubleIn post 3781, Morning Tweet wrote:
Why would i ever be happy about rolling scum genuine questionIn post 3756, Disaster Cartel wrote:hi MT, nice to have you, sorry you rolled scum although I guess you're p happy about that
because I will go back and find them, because I remember very clearly telling you in a game that I thought you were town partly bc you seemed energised and you said something along the lines of "that's not reliable and if anything is probably +scum for me"
I have a tendency to try hard as scum but that's because i suffer from a fear of letting scummates down, not because i enjoy it
my point is that you hard-efforting this from rep-in is +scum for you, I think, especially when you're so close to the win- Disaster Cartel
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like I don't care if it's because you enjoy it or because you feel obligated to do it, the end result is the same in practical terms of how hard you try and the quality of your posting
which is legit impressive, don't get me wrong, I don't have the WIM anymore to try as hard as you are when I rep into a scumgame in the final stages so... kudos- Morning Tweet
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Hehe well if 3840 is arguing that I seemed to think Venus/DC was the team but i didnt start freaking out til later is some kind of dissonance, sure, you can claim that
In reality i'd liken it more to a mounting storm of sorts where the more i look the more it makes sense and granted it might be because my cakes/notsci/infinity reads are confirm biasing me but wow was I excited about it just a bit ago
Either way I don't really think that's a very convincing point and you'll need to do better- Disaster Cartel
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IT'S OBJECTIVELY NOTIn post 3850, Infinity 324 wrote:Unless your partner also becomes easier to lim (which would be a hilarious TMI if that's what you're implying) then it's objectively better for town to have the extra point
okay
I'm going to take a break and make dinner. I feel like infinity is intentionally playing dumb to avoid having to concede this point for the sake of her wincon which is totally fair! but I promised ydra that if I started getting annoyed I would time myself out to avoid repeats of yesterday so that's what I'm doing
I think infinity acting like she doesn't get that 2 points vs 2 points but with much less sus on a scumslot is far worse than 2 points vs 1 point with more sus on a scumslot- Morning Tweet
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What, you misinterpreted what I meant by me having high WIM as scum, that's not pedantic. I hate playing scum and do everything i can to limit the amount of time i post by efforting really hard into a smaller amount of posts. It's quite noticeable when you've played with scum!me enough times
So in other words high effort is +scum because i can high effort as both alignments but i dont usually low effort as scum (Unless it's wall street bets mafia sadly). But enjoying it? I cannot say I've enjoyed a scum game, besides the winning- Morning Tweet
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i didnt mean for that to come across like i tend to win as scum >.> i meant i enjoy it when i win as scum but not much elseIn post 3857, Morning Tweet wrote:But enjoying it? I cannot say I've enjoyed a scum game, besides the winning- Disaster Cartel
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morning I could absolutely not care less about what you think, no offenceIn post 3855, Morning Tweet wrote:Hehe well if 3840 is arguing that I seemed to think Venus/DC was the team but i didnt start freaking out til later is some kind of dissonance, sure, you can claim that
In reality i'd liken it more to a mounting storm of sorts where the more i look the more it makes sense and granted it might be because my cakes/notsci/infinity reads are confirm biasing me but wow was I excited about it just a bit ago
Either way I don't really think that's a very convincing point and you'll need to do better
like I think it's beyond obvious at this point. I get that that's not the case for everyone else because they're seeing this from the outside and I'm seeing it from the perspective of the one being shitpshed lol. but the only reason I'm engaging with you in the first place is to try and show how fake your play has been to those who'll cast the deciding votes- Morning Tweet
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Is this related to associative tells w/ me and infinity if so i dont really care abt this all that muchIn post 3845, Disaster Cartel wrote:(snip)
yea uh there was no other posting you did that suggested distancing with infinity, that's right morning
So your primary point against me is that I didnt get excited over the DC/Venus prospect until much much later? And of course that i've been driven by an agenda of sorts thruout the catchup but we've been thru that
Well, i suppose we'll see how that stacks up then- Morning Tweet
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This incorrectly assumes that the mom lim was a foregone conclusion from scum's PoV at the time. Bork was TRing her and others were trusting his reasoning.In post 3852, Disaster Cartel wrote:SCENARIO 1: we bus NM. the next day, we lim bulge. mom leaves. we're in mylo with two town gone and 3 scum gone. we look p good for having bussed NM all the way through and the day probably goes smoothly.
SCENARIO 2: we kill bulge. NM leaves. mom is limmed. we're in mylo with two town gone and 3 scum gone. the game is a horrible fucking shitfest because our correct push on NM is undermined by having jumped off him to vote bulge despite there being exactly no need to.
let me be very clear: unless you think that we couldn't lim bulge the next day in scenario (1) the two worlds are functionally no different in terms of who is alive. the basically ONLY difference is how we're perceived. so do you disagree that bulge would have been very limmable the next day, or do you not? and if you don't, why did ydra vote bulge? just to make this fun game a little bit extra challenging because it was too easy- notscience
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Again in the second case, the scumslot will literally get limmed and you will end up in the first case? Can someone else help mediate this to me it seems like mena is just wrong hereIn post 3856, Disaster Cartel wrote:I think infinity acting like she doesn't get that 2 points vs 2 points but with much less sus on a scumslot is far worse than 2 points vs 1 point with more sus on a scumslot- Infinity 324
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Though, I think this incorrect assumption is a townslip because it shows mena wasn't thinking from scum's PoV at the time.In post 3864, Infinity 324 wrote:This incorrectly assumes that the mom lim was a foregone conclusion from scum's PoV at the time. Bork was TRing her and others were trusting his reasoning.- Infinity 324
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I can't even tell what this discussion is about and it's very demoralizing
It's related to the Bulge getting eliminated over NM but i cannot tell what the argument is. Disaster did everything in their power to choose NM over Bulge i dont really get what the discussion is. I agree, NM was a better pick for scum!Disaster like (?) is this related to why Ydrasse suddenly wants it to be Bulge? I dont know?? Why does town!Ydrasse suddenly want bulge?
Sure it's a bad move but it's a WTF move that doesnt make sense for either alignment (ydrasse has had a few of these that confused me) and may i remind you that everyone currently alive seems to have something going for them and something's gotta break
In any case if even you don't think it's Disaster i dont see much point in dragging this on as i would always be one of the eliminations sooo- Infinity 324
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Oh, my argument was that it's a good move because then you get to safehouse NM instead of mom which is quite beneficial for scum.
I want to drag this out because I really haven't made up my mind, wanna see what skitt thinks- Morning Tweet
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howw is Disaster skitts' best/second best TR for NM interactions, i just dont get it (っ>﹏<)っIn post 2803, skitter30 wrote:the only two people i'm still quasi-confident on are bork and mena. bork i still think is out of his scumrange and i just don't think mena interacts with nm that way, despite ydrasse's hammer. it's possible i'm getting snowed by the people in this group but i don't think i'm willing to vote there today. if i'm wrong on one of them rn i don't think this is something i can positively identify today with the information i have, and these aren't the people i want to spend today's vote on.
Spoiler: the thing where i see if Venus can win easy by pushing Iverson
they couldnt, it was never at any point as simple as push Iverson and win automatically.
was it a possible strategy, yes
was it auto, no, so is it clearing for venus, no
Mom/DC/Venus were all pretty low presence around the section ive quoted so it would have had to been long and convincing for town to stick on it long enough for them all to join
Welp
Alright then
I looked into everything i wanted
Are there holes I'm missing, maybe. Stuff that would seem to clear DC/Venus as a team, stuff that makes ppl townread venus i didnt see, whatever it is that has Infinity thinking DC is town, there always could be more i could look at. But i think as long as I think this is the team im either wrong for being the only one to think so, or im right and there's no way i could overcome this threat really
I believe in notsci/Cakes, i really want to though. Infinity I do too although if I'm wrong everyone is going to laugh about how obvious she was to everyone but me- fferyllt
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