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Post Post #0 (ISO) » Mon May 17, 2021 4:12 pm

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Newbie 2064 - One vs. One Hundred

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Are you a bad enough dude(t) to take on the mob and win? Let's find out...

The flavor is purely for our (players+mods) collective enjoyment and has no effect whatsoever on the NewD3 newbie game setup and rules. This game will borrow imagery and flavor, as is my whimsy, from old television game shows, but will avoid spoilers for the results of those shows unless completely unavoidable.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Mon May 17, 2021 4:13 pm

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Still on a Hot Streak (Alive)
Jamesthenames (Formerly Salsabil Fabia)
Super (Formerly Dum)
Zyla (Formerly NinjaStore)
Noraa (Formerly navigatorv)
unwnd (Formerly humaneatingmonkey) (SE)

Eliminated From the Mob (Dead)


Fizz Raab, Vanilla Town, Eliminated Day One
JohnnyFarrar (SE) (Formerly Micc), Vanilla Town, Eliminated Night One

orctin, Mafia Goon, Eliminated Day Two

catboi (SE) (Formerly JacksonVirgo), Vanilla Town, Eliminated Night Two.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Mon May 17, 2021 4:13 pm

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Setup Info

Newbie Setup
Newbie Setup

NewD3 (as designed by RadiantCowbells):

ABC
Mafia
Mafia Roleblocker
Mafia Rolecop
Mafia Goon
Row 1
Town Cop and Town Doctor
Town Tracker and Town Friendly Neighbor
Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2
Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker
Town Jailkeeper and Town Friendly Neighbor
Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3
Town Mason and Town Mason
Town Tracker and Town Doctor
Town Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role. The remaining six roles will be filled in by
one mafia goon
and
five vanilla townies
appropriately, to create a
2-mafia
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7-town
setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.
Mafia Roleblocker
action takes precedence over a
Town Jailkeeper
action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.


Spoiler: Full Setups
Column A & Row 1:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 2:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 3:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 1:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 2:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 3:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column C & Row 1:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Cop, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 2:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 3:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5


Mods should use the sample role PMs below.


Sample Role PM's (click on the spoiler button to reveal)

Spoiler:
Vanilla TownieWelcome!

You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

You have no special abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town JailkeeperWelcome!

You are a
Town Jailkeeper
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town CopWelcome!

You are a
Town Cop
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are
Town
or
Mafia
. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town MasonWelcome!

You are a
Town Mason
.

You know that [player] is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town TrackerWelcome!

You are a
Town Tracker
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town DoctorWelcome!

You are a
Town Doctor
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Town Friendly NeighborWelcome!

You are a
Town Friendly Neighbor
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Mafia GoonWelcome!

You are a
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.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RolecopWelcome!

You are a
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You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.
Vanilla Townies
and
Mafia Goons
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You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a role cop in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.
Mafia RoleblockerWelcome!

You are a
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.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Mon May 17, 2021 4:14 pm

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General Rules (adapted from myself and several others over the past decade)


1. We don’t tolerate ad hom wars. If your posting is merely insulting a player without providing game content, you can expect a strike from us. Three strikes, you’re out. We are fairly lenient about this, but posting “Fuck you” over and over again is simply not acceptable. Severe issues will be reported to the list mod(s).
2. If we say it violates these rules, it does. You can take it up with us postgame if you wish.
3. Play towards your win condition. Gambits are fine, directly harming your own team is not.
4. Once an elimination is reached, you may continue discussion until we lock the thread. No votes or unvotes will count after an elimination has been achieved.
5. An elimination is achieved as a majority of players voting for somebody. Half is not a majority.
6. Do not quote or pretend to quote any information you get from us via PM. This includes posting your role card verbatim. Paraphrasing is fine, as are role claims naturally.
7. Do not talk about this game anywhere else, or with anyone else.
8. Do not discuss ongoing games in this thread. This includes games on sites other than mafiascum. This also includes using [redacted] as that loophole does not fly here.
9. We are usually rather lenient upon activity. This game is a newbie and so has specific requirements. The Day 1 deadline is 10 days. All further days must have a 7 day deadline. Players will be prodded after 36 hours of inactivity. Weekends and major holidays are slightly more lenient.
10. Claiming scum by yourself is fine. Claiming scum with another player is an instant modkill. Don't do it.
11. We do not require unvotes. Your vote will be counted so long as you bold it or use the vote tag. Shorthand names are fine so long as it’s clear who the vote is for.
12. If you have a question, please PM us. If a question is something that should be answered publicly, we will make a post addressing it without naming who asked it.
13. If our vote count is wrong, you can PM us or post in the thread (use the bold tag and "@MOD") about it.
14. We do not fix tags or edit posts where you might make a formatting mistake, even if you ask us to.
15. We reserve the right to add to these rules or modify them, but only when we post notifying all players in the game of the change.
16. Loophole abuse is all fun and games until we modkill you. Don’t try it.
17. Blue
(This color at #0000FF)
is our color. You are welcome to use any other color of the rainbow.
18. Encryption, text hiding, and the like are silly. Don’t do it.
19. Do not use temporary information to convey messages. This includes your signature and your avatar, but is not limited to these things.
20. While putting your vote or unvote on its own line is helpful, it is not necessary and any attempts to game voting formatting will be dealt with as an attempt to cheat. If we think it was a vote, it was a vote.
21. A modkill will always punish the faction modkilled more as far as timing goes. All modkills will be done after consultation with the listmods. Modkills may or may not end the day. Modkilled players will be changed to a neutral survivor, meaning they lose the game instantly.
22. In the event of site downtime lasting more than 3 hours; time will be added to the deadline to compensate at a 1 to 1 ratio.
23. All factional decisions must be agreed upon by all living members of that faction.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Mon May 17, 2021 4:14 pm

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Introduction and Tips
Thanks to Irrelephant11 and others for their contributions to these tips.


Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)


Key Concepts and Tips


Activity


Try to check in at least once a day.
Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone
plays
. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta


Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, E-x, and Hammers

E-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from elimination. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at E-1 (1 vote away from an elimination) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that player's elimination. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to eliminate (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see E-2 and E-3 (2 votes away from elimination and 3 votes away from elimination, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being eliminated, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.


Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at E-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!
While it may help you avoid getting eliminated, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counterclaiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get eliminated for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

ELo

ELo is the shortened representation of “Eliminate or Lose.” ELo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to eliminate (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!
As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.
That's okay!
Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.
Have fun!
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Mon May 17, 2021 4:45 pm

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With a cheering crowd behind him, Bob Sagat grins, adjusts his wire-rimmed glasses, and opens the episode. "Welcome to the latest episode of 1 Vs. 100! Today's chosen one is none other than Medea!" The blue-haired wench makes her way to the center platform.

"And welcome to...the Mob!"

Medea looks up as the stadium seating illuminates, but only nine lights blink on. Even the Mob members look puzzled at their diminished number.

Sagat frowns at his notes, but then plasters his jovial smile back on. "Well, it looks like a few people missed the first question: are we filming in studio 2063 or studio 2064? Congratulations to those of you who found your way to the correct studio: 2064! And luckily our '1' made the right call too, ha, ha, ha.

"Now, you all know how this works. I pose a multiple-choice question, and Medea here has to give an answer after you all lock in your choices. If she's right, she starts racking up prize money and gets to kick out anyone who got the question wrong. But if she's wrong, all of you who answered correctly split her accumulated prize pool! Are you ready to rack your brains?"

Medea nods, only a hint of trepidation on her face. The Mob is clearly ready to go as well. Some returning faces, some first-timers: all are eager to show off their mental prowess. What Sagat doesn't know is that two members of the Mob won't be playing by the rules. Concealed cell phones, their browsers loaded with Google, are also ready to make sure their owners will always have the right answers!

Sagat presses a button, and the first question is illuminated. "How many amino acids are in the standard genetic code? Is it A) 12, B) 16, or C) 20? Mob, start locking in your answers. The deadline is counting down now."
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Mon May 17, 2021 4:47 pm

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The game will begin when at least 8 of the 9 players have confirmed their role PM, or 48 hours has passed, whichever occurs first.

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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 1:13 pm

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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 2:55 pm

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Day One Begins! It will last 10 days, or until a simple majority of five votes is reached, with nine players currently alive.
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 3:18 pm

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In post 5, Cabd wrote:
"How many amino acids are in the standard genetic code? Is it A) 12, B) 16, or C) 20? Mob, start locking in your answers.
It's been a while, but I think this is
C
?

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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 4:24 pm

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VOTE: Orctin

Gotta vote the legend
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 4:29 pm

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haha - Hello Jackson, we together again looks like
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 4:47 pm

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Not a lot of info to go on. From the brief look around the forum, it seems like most people aren't a fan of RQS and I get the feeling no vote is a good way to be the first elimination lol I guess if I have to pick, I'll go for the first voter (sorry, but I agree with your guess at least)

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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 4:52 pm

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In post 10, JacksonVirgo wrote:VOTE: Orctin

Gotta vote the legend
Just the share the love - but no legend here
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 4:59 pm

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In post 12, navigatorv wrote:Not a lot of info to go on. From the brief look around the forum, it seems like most people aren't a fan of RQS and I get the feeling no vote is a good way to be the first elimination lol I guess if I have to pick, I'll go for the first voter (sorry, but I agree with your guess at least)

VOTE: Micc
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 5:26 pm

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In post 12, navigatorv wrote:Not a lot of info to go on. From the brief look around the forum, it seems like most people aren't a fan of RQS and I get the feeling no vote is a good way to be the first elimination lol I guess if I have to pick, I'll go for the first voter (sorry, but I agree with your guess at least)

VOTE: Micc
This reads pretty awkward.

If you find RQS useful, then give it a try. Even if people ignore it that’s something you can read into.
More significant imo: you imply that not putting a vote down would you look suspicious, but you ignore another player who did that and instead vote for me. Is my vote coming down first even more suspicious than orctin not voting in their first post?
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 5:36 pm

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In post 15, Micc wrote:
In post 12, navigatorv wrote:Not a lot of info to go on. From the brief look around the forum, it seems like most people aren't a fan of RQS and I get the feeling no vote is a good way to be the first elimination lol I guess if I have to pick, I'll go for the first voter (sorry, but I agree with your guess at least)

VOTE: Micc
This reads pretty awkward.

If you find RQS useful, then give it a try. Even if people ignore it that’s something you can read into.
More significant imo: you imply that not putting a vote down would you look suspicious, but you ignore another player who did that and instead vote for me. Is my vote coming down first even more suspicious than orctin not voting in their first post?
I completely agree, but I wanted to check their home-site, if any, as that may explain it.
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 6:14 pm

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In post 14, JacksonVirgo wrote:Are you from another mafia site/game/server? If so can you post which one
No, just read up on the wiki. It seems like a more useful method than just voting at random, but I'll trust the more experienced players.
In post 15, Micc wrote:This reads pretty awkward.

If you find RQS useful, then give it a try. Even if people ignore it that’s something you can read into.
More significant imo: you imply that not putting a vote down would you look suspicious, but you ignore another player who did that and instead vote for me. Is my vote coming down first even more suspicious than orctin not voting in their first post?
Sorry, seems I wasn't clear. I didn't mean not voting on my first post I meant literally voting for No Elimination. But maybe I'm wrong and that would be fine? Every group's different, so I can only guess.

I'm also pretty awkward around people I don't know, so I might've stumbled over myself a bit there, sorry ^^'

The rules of this topic say unvoting isn't necessary, so does that mean if I were to change my mind I'd just have to vote for someone new? Or is it like an all votes are final so make them count sorta deal?
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 6:25 pm

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We are not no-eliminating, that is counter-intuitive to our goals.
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 6:30 pm

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Hi everyone. I learned about the no elimination on how much of a mistake it was in my first game here. Still need a lot more practice of playing Mafia hence why I joined another newbie game as I messed up big time last time. Welcome to first time players. Have fun.
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 6:40 pm

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Fair enough. Like I said, I'll trust the people with more experience until I've gotten the hang of things
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 6:52 pm

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No Elim depends where your from and played before, here they put a lot into the opening day trying to read everyone and making guesses based off what you say and whom you voted for - they like to have people make reads. I to am from other places where day 1 is typically a no elim - you can get into debates with others on the whole "well the odds are better..." thing
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Salsabil Faria
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Joined: October 1, 2020
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Location: in Bad Player jail

Post Post #22 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 8:57 pm

Post by Salsabil Faria »

Hello people, busy rn.


VOTE: JacksonVirgo
[the only person I know from this pl :P]
I'm waiting for someone to say something special in mafia game(s) about me, so that, I can change my pathetic signature.
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NinjaStore
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 10:13 pm

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VOTE: orctin He's being suspiciously helpful...
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Dum
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Wed May 19, 2021 12:22 am

Post by Dum »

Hello! First time playing mafia (on this site) so if i mess up, im sorry in advance.

VOTE: navigatorv
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