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[Egix96]

I'm feeling a bit better about Anya from her four most recent posts. She feels like she's acting by herself.

[InsidiousLemons]

hey guys. yesterday sucked and i could feel myself starting to bring that energy to the game so i stepped away. gonna catch up on the past few pages and see what's what.

@VFP i doubt i actually upset you but if i did i apologize. it really irks me when folks ask to be "brought up to speed" before actually reading the thread. the piggybacking thing wasn't based on past experience with VFP, just a frustration with their attempt to discern my opinions before forming their own. i acknowledge their strategy was more probably just to see if my perception of the game thus far aligns with theirs once they do give it a readthrough. i'll summarize my opinions thus far (likely later today) because honestly it's something i've been meaning to do anyway

[InsidiousLemons]

??????????? wait i just read page 25 and where is the ate?

Spoiler: Holy AtE, Batman.

[InsidiousLemons]

heres a scalding hot take

gerain is actually probably going to flip town pr

this is the kind of opinion you don't out until the flip is in danger of actually occurring. i'm having trouble seeing the town mindset between voicing this thought unnecessarily, but then again, scum would also probably just keep it to themself/the scum pt. it's just a weird move in general

@VFP can i ask what about gerain's 629 suggests a town mindset to you? do you think scum isn't this vocal about wanting to progress to the next day?

[InsidiousLemons]

I've been having a look through Ivyeo.
Although her early posts this game don't leave a good first impression, and it did take some pressure for her to start laying out her reads (227), I quite like the attitude she shows in 311 and 420.
Not just in a vacuum, but I also had a look through her D1 posts in Creatures. Although she does show an "attitude" in posts such as here and here, it feels like quite a different kind. For that, I'm thinking she's maybe town here.

can you be a bit more specific about what you see in ivy's scum play in creatures vs her play in this game? what do you mean by "attitude"? i agree with the points you make about her this game, but to me the two posts you linked from the other game don't feel markedly less hostile or aggressive, or very divergent in general from her playstyle here.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Maybe Lemons is town or I have an exploitable weakness to vulnerability and self-awareness. I also like #679.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm now looking at Egix with a very very squint.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'll be back with a much better view of the game tomorrow.

[Anya]

I'm feeling a bit better about Anya from her four most recent posts. She feels like she's acting by herself.

can you write a 500 word essay on each post on why it's town

[Anya]

this banana's desperation to read Dunnstral is more motivation than most people have towards life goals i don't believe it

and you're not desperate and having a hard time with this game yourself?

the "please man. i need to sort you." is what broke my camel's back and the medical fees are steep

[VFP]

Why

Just a hunch

I haven't read much of what Osuka has been saying but 646 strikes me more likely to come from town

I'm not personally a fan of policy elims, but unless there's something more compelling than my above reason to townread I will probably just watch this one

Probably.
I doubt my vote stays there but until I'm caught up I won't be sad on a lim there regardless.

UNVOTE: osuka
nvm osuka hs redeemed himself.
Yes I do towread gerains consciouslack of effort.

There's no point avoiding my question T3, we both know I'll want answers.

@VFP i doubt i actually upset you but if i did i apologize. it really irks me when folks ask to be "brought up to speed" before actually reading the thread. the piggybacking thing wasn't based on past experience with VFP, just a frustration with their attempt to discern my opinions before forming their own. i acknowledge their strategy was more probably just to see if my perception of the game thus far aligns with theirs once they do give it a readthrough. i'll summarize my opinions thus far (likely later today) because honestly it's something i've been meaning to do anyway

I think you're over thinking it. There wasn't anything offensive over it.
The reason I asked you was because you were there and I just wanted somewhere to start.
I'd rather read ISOs when replacing in rather than page order.

I like Egix for town.

[VFP]

@VFP can i ask what about gerain's 629 suggests a town mindset to you? do you think scum isn't this vocal about wanting to progress to the next day?

It's a mix of not caring while being voted.
Saying you want day 2 by itself is NAI. Saying it in response to a vote on you is just asking for attention.
I'll have to re read and confirm but I feel like Gera was very different to when I last played with him as scum when being voted. (however it wasn't day 1).
If I remember correctly he dodged conflict when being voted but again, I'll check this tonight to see if I'm right.

[VFP]

I'm not sure if I've played with Umlaut so I don't know if this is just standard play bit a lot of nothing in their ISO.
Maybe scum.

@Umlaut

Go over why Gera should be voted here?

[geraintm]

heres a scalding hot take

gerain is actually probably going to flip town pr

You may think that, but I couldn't possibly comment....

Wait, I did! I have no role beyond vanilla townie!

[geraintm]

Sorry for notmposting much today, went out and actuallyet people for a few hours and I am exhausted

[geraintm]

@VFP can i ask what about gerain's 629 suggests a town mindset to you? do you think scum isn't this vocal about wanting to progress to the next day?

It's a mix of not caring while being voted.
Saying you want day 2 by itself is NAI. Saying it in response to a vote on you is just asking for attention.
I'll have to re read and confirm but I feel like Gera was very different to when I last played with him as scum when being voted. (however it wasn't day 1).
If I remember correctly he dodged conflict when being voted but again, I'll check this tonight to see if I'm right.

I am actively trying to be different, you can see it in my last game too.

[VFP]

I am actively trying to be different, you can see it in my last game too.

So I should consider you as scum then?

[VFP]

Regardless Gera doesn't just claim VT as scum when Osuka gives a pass there to be town read without even claiming.
Gera can be town.

[Egix96]

I've been having a look through Ivyeo.
Although her early posts this game don't leave a good first impression, and it did take some pressure for her to start laying out her reads (227), I quite like the attitude she shows in 311 and 420.
Not just in a vacuum, but I also had a look through her D1 posts in Creatures. Although she does show an "attitude" in posts such as here and here, it feels like quite a different kind. For that, I'm thinking she's maybe town here.

can you be a bit more specific about what you see in ivy's scum play in creatures vs her play in this game? what do you mean by "attitude"? i agree with the points you make about her this game, but to me the two posts you linked from the other game don't feel markedly less hostile or aggressive, or very divergent in general from her playstyle here.

It's like, when I got to the "we want to execute our most likely scum do we not?" part, I felt like, "oh, that feels different". Similarly for the first line of the latter post, the tone of that part just felt different.

[Egix96]

I'm feeling a bit better about Anya from her four most recent posts. She feels like she's acting by herself.

can you write a 500 word essay on each post on why it's town

The way you were vote hopping feels like you're off just doing your own thing rather than trying to serve some sort of agenda.
Admittedly I could have phrased that earlier post a bit better, I really meant the first and fourth of them.

[bugspray]

got vaccined today my arm horts troo much for reading thius crap

[InsidiousLemons]

I've been having a look through Ivyeo.
Although her early posts this game don't leave a good first impression, and it did take some pressure for her to start laying out her reads (227), I quite like the attitude she shows in 311 and 420.
Not just in a vacuum, but I also had a look through her D1 posts in Creatures. Although she does show an "attitude" in posts such as here and here, it feels like quite a different kind. For that, I'm thinking she's maybe town here.

can you be a bit more specific about what you see in ivy's scum play in creatures vs her play in this game? what do you mean by "attitude"? i agree with the points you make about her this game, but to me the two posts you linked from the other game don't feel markedly less hostile or aggressive, or very divergent in general from her playstyle here.

It's like, when I got to the "we want to execute our most likely scum do we not?" part, I felt like, "oh, that feels different". Similarly for the first line of the latter post, the tone of that part just felt different.

"different" isn't a super helpful qualifier here. more aggressive? less? more to the point? stating the obvious? i want to know

what

is different in your eyes

[InsidiousLemons]

gerain's return does not do much to convince me here. VFP, do you have past experience to suggest that gerain wouldn't claim VT unnecessarily? he even said he's deliberately attempting to vary his playstyle game to game, which is usually not a town play. though i do concede there's a certain boldness in admitting it outright

[bugspray]

stop talking about who is a tpr you're just don't work for scum

[VFP]

gerain's return does not do much to convince me here. VFP, do you have past experience to suggest that gerain wouldn't claim VT unnecessarily? he even said he's deliberately attempting to vary his playstyle game to game, which is usually not a town play. though i do concede there's a certain boldness in admitting it outright

No, Gera didn't really get to claim in our game as they were in active from the game when pressure built (not fully sure if due to game or busy).
It's negative points to say the comment about playing different as it's LAMIST after I talk about the way Gera acts.
But claiming VT there suggests town. Since I've come back to the site, outside of a mass claim I've not seen scum claim VT, even more so with lack of pressure.
The best play as scum is to keep quiet on the role and let people think you are a PR from Osuka's comment. It's a better way if town too but at least it seems genuine.