Dogs vs Cats Mafia Spectator/Dead thread

[Thestatusquo]

I really don't like how fast the pooky wagon just took off. That was my only concern about placing my vote their to begin with, but I don't see a better option. I still wish to see a better case against him come out before we get to many more votes. Realistically, from what i understand, he has two previous games. One scum and one town. realistically that isn't enough to try to compare his playstyle to previous games. When i was new to mafia, my playstyle would really switch up. It was also radical and often trollish. I wasn't trying to be, i was just new. What's really going to come down to is his interactions with other scum. Ill leave my vote for now, but i really don't like how fast this is going.

Fun fact pooky has exactly two games.

[Dwlee99]

That is extremely funny. Pooky plays one game every 6 years, I guess!

[Nero Cain]

dunno if it was in any way intentional but I sorta feel like our roles are similar to our personalities.

[Thestatusquo]

Nero Cain: I think dwlee's personality is scum.

[Nero Cain]

Sure man, I think he played pretty well and I didn't really suspect him beyond "he's playing well and sometimes scum play so much better than town"

[Nero Cain]

I could just be projecting here but I felt like General Woundwort matches my personality somewhat and while it's probably offensive to say so I felt like giving a miller to Andante and Titus replacing into the farm drunk (though the latter is just a coincidence) so I had sorta felt like the characters matched the roles a bit.

Sorry, I don't have a filter :/

[Nero Cain]

sorry i typed the wrong pronoun DW

[Dwlee99]

You're good. He/they/she all work for me tbh, I just don't mention it cause I still feel weird bringing it up to people.

[Thestatusquo]

It is extremely ironic that basically my whole thing is that I hate when mod meta is used to decide games but at the same time there's just a metric ton of players in this game who would be extremely well served by knowing that I personally despise the traitor mechanic (I thought kind of famously) and I would be very unlikely to put it in a game I mod.

[Thestatusquo]

Cat traitor is an interesting theory but i think traitors don't know their factional kill target? Besides, i think the cat traitor would also have a cat flavor.

i dont know what flavor you have.

I'm saying that you saying you are a snake is you crumbing traitor to your cat scum buddies.

because snakes r treacherous animals by nature.

the combined with your hard defense of norwee-catscum on d1 makes it pretty likely you're just cat-scum-traitor here.

Pooky going full Redwall essentialist here.

[unwnd]

I think Fark can be scum

Just not traitor scum. That's a weird thing to call out but maybe Pooky is angling because he's lost some sanity

[unwnd]

Mod note: Hey everyone, I didn't want to publicly throw this in the thread, but it keeps coming back up so I'm going to be clear publicly here.

Several users have already expressed that the term gaslighting is one that they do not like. Part of playing a game about lying on the internet is lying on the internet, and given that gaslighting as a term is most commonly used to describe domestic abuse, I am going to ask everyone, publicly, to stop using it. You can make your points without comparing people to domestic abusers.

Thank you.

Massively appreciate this post, I think mafia should stay within the range of logical fallacies and no further.

[unwnd]

Pooks could've substituted (gaslighting) for something like Strawman and his post wouldn't change, imo

[Thestatusquo]

This ruleset is an experiment in being much more active as a mod in policing toxicity and tone and essentially giving myself leeway to do things like this. I think it's going well so far, though I think part of that is that we have a generally pretty jovial player list who isn't really prone to that sort of toxicity normally. I don't think Titus and Pooky are generally toxic players at all and I don't think either of them were trying to be toxic by using that term, but I also think its really fair to ask them not to say it lol.

[Thestatusquo]

some of my reads are getting stale
need to reassess
i really thought Ivyeo is scum but now SS is in that slot and I always feel weird SRing SS because I've misread him so many times before
ugh

SS replacing in made me SR the slot more for the completely unfair reason of i was scum with SS recently and he just vibes completely the same no matter his alignment, apparently.

Spoiler: chara discussion

If I were in the game I would see this post as a slip.

[Dwlee99]

Spoiler: fark claim spec stuff

There is a lot of killing power in the game, but I feel like dogs can't effectively deal with a dog cop + dog doctor combo. Is there a cat doctor or cat cop in the town?

[Ivyeo]

some of my reads are getting stale
need to reassess
i really thought Ivyeo is scum but now SS is in that slot and I always feel weird SRing SS because I've misread him so many times before
ugh

SS replacing in made me SR the slot more for the completely unfair reason of i was scum with SS recently and he just vibes completely the same no matter his alignment, apparently.

Spoiler: chara discussion

If I were in the game I would see this post as a slip.

wdym by this?

[Thestatusquo]

Spoiler: answer

It TMIs that she knows he's town. The logical conclusion of "SS is the same as he was last time we played together and he was scum." isn't "therefore he is the same every alignment." It is "therefore he is more likely to be scum here." Unless you have a reason to believe that he's town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That moment when my team apparently find it more believable Fark is a traitor rather than me genuinely just pocketing them.

[Thestatusquo]

This fark stuff is a good example of my bias as the mod. I thought it was so incredibly obvious that he was softing doc but looking at the thread and all the scum PTs literally no one seems to have picked up on it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The dynamic i might have had with Farkran would have been so interesting if i didn’t get quickwagoned by jerks.

[Jingle]

It TMIs that she knows he's town. The logical conclusion of "SS is the same as he was last time we played together and he was scum." isn't "therefore he is the same every alignment." It is "therefore he is more likely to be scum here." Unless you have a reason to believe that he's town.

Spoiler:

I'd support that push, tbh

Chara uses it, not she, btw.

[Ivyeo]

Spoiler: answer

It TMIs that she knows he's town. The logical conclusion of "SS is the same as he was last time we played together and he was scum." isn't "therefore he is the same every alignment." It is "therefore he is more likely to be scum here." Unless you have a reason to believe that he's town.

Spoiler: .

Oooohhh I didn't even think of that, but yeah that totally makes sense.

[Thestatusquo]

It TMIs that she knows he's town. The logical conclusion of "SS is the same as he was last time we played together and he was scum." isn't "therefore he is the same every alignment." It is "therefore he is more likely to be scum here." Unless you have a reason to believe that he's town.

Spoiler:

I'd support that push, tbh

Chara uses it, not she, btw.

yup. thanks for correcting me.

[Thestatusquo]

I could just be projecting here but I felt like General Woundwort matches my personality somewhat and while it's probably offensive to say so I felt like giving a miller to Andante and Titus replacing into the farm drunk (though the latter is just a coincidence) so I had sorta felt like the characters matched the roles a bit.

Sorry, I don't have a filter :/

I quite enjoyed your general woundwort cosplay.