Mini Normal 2211 || Summer Meet [Endgame]

[bugspray]

pedit thought so...
was that a scumslip?

[bugspray]

maybe scum has informed roles that know something about town roles and hoods/pts.

scum!traffic analyst would be a really cool role tbh

[bugspray]

VOTE: hem

[humaneatingmonkey]

They don't. I just made a mistake.

[bugspray]

They don't.

s c u m s l i p

[humaneatingmonkey]

No, that's just a general way of covering roles like neighbor and mason

this is what I remembered and I thought Dunn was zeroing in on the roles available to this game.

I misunderstood that PT and PR are the same

[Anya]

it's a townfall if anything

the cannister is spraying again

[bugspray]

hey i prefer if you don't refer to me in such an objectifying way

[T3]

I don't particularly buy this claim but it will be resolved later. VOTE: bugspray if I'm not already.

[VFP]

Rolestopper is generally more of a hinderence to town.
Majority games I've seen scum rolestopper over town, although I haven't seen it a great deal.

For town its basically a weak protective, so taking an additional nerf on being odd night seems to point more to balancing from scum sided.
It's something to keep in mind.

UNVOTE: Osuka

I'm just about to get my 1st covid jab so I'll post shortly after once I've checked something

[Dunnstral]

I'd say it's stronger than a doctor in that it can stop roleblocks too

Of course, with the rolestopper revealed, they can be roleblocked themself

[VFP]

Thats actually a fair point.
So Osuka looks okay in that case.

VOTE: Ivy
I think Ivy looks pretty bad.
2 players pushing Osuka for a slip is Human and Ivy. Human was an obvious derp moment as scum aren't going to realistically push that, even if PRs did have PTs.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I still want osuka to happen. I'm absolutely convinced that it's a fakeclaim and he's gonna flip scum anyway. VOTE: osuka
I am willing to lynch Dunnstral. I want more time to evaluate Egix. I don't think bugs is a good counterwagon.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm sorry if I'm wrong about osuka, but I am unable to see this game from a town!osuka perspective.

[InsidiousLemons]

UNVOTE:

imagine there is a votecount here

osuka is at e-1

listen i really do not want to be a bother but i assumed this was a placeholder and we still don't have a votecount here. you have asked multiple times about the frequency of your vote counts and multiple people at this point have asked that they be done more often. please try and aim for one per page, preferably near the top, it would be really really helpful. thank you cook

Thats actually a fair point.
So Osuka looks okay in that case.

VOTE: Ivy
I think Ivy looks pretty bad.
2 players pushing Osuka for a slip is Human and Ivy. Human was an obvious derp moment as scum aren't going to realistically push that, even if PRs did have PTs.

do you have anything more substantial on ivy? her osuka push is weak but that alone doesn't really convince me.

i see no reason not to believe the osuka claim with things being the way they are. i can see hem as tunneled town but i don't like how desperate he is to keep this push alive. if there's room enough for an "i'm sorry if i'm wrong" post then you do not push for a claimed PR elim. it just is not the way.

[Anya]

osuka has maybe a little more rage blood this time compared to last where he was wolf

[Anya]

that mod post is actually encouraging players to not move to other wagons or it makes it harder for osuka to get votes off him since we can't see the other options

tut tut cook

[Anya]

it also makes it slightly more likely osuka is town bc cook might care a little for his criminal players while a town brutal execution is just "on the cards" so whatever

am i breaking rules here?

[InsidiousLemons]

keep in mind osuka never faced anywhere close to this amount of pressure as scum. neither of us really know what his scum game looks like under fire

unless you mean overall in which case i'd actually argue that he looks a little more subdued

p-edit i don't think we should read too much into cook's modding style. even if it does mean something i don't want to win that way, and i don't even believe it does mean anything. i think he just wanted to mod-confirm that osuka was 1 away from a lim. i agree it's a bad look for cook though

[Anya]

egix called me up last night and confessed he was a hyena

he said he wanted to get some things off his chest and that he's committed murder before and that he hopes he can trust his secret with me

well i'm only friends with one person egix and that's the law

VOTE: egix

[Anya]

true apples i'll drop it for the chef

[humaneatingmonkey]

im still convinced osuka is scum here and if we let him live, he's gonna be alive day 2 despite TPR claim and I will still want to lynch him.

[InsidiousLemons]

then let's cross that bridge when we come to it. there is no use in assuming he'll live overnight and even if he does, now that you've said it the chances are even lower that it means anything. we can deal with this tomorrow there is no reason to lim our only claimed PR

[InsidiousLemons]

egix called me up last night and confessed he was a hyena

he said he wanted to get some things off his chest and that he's committed murder before and that he hopes he can trust his secret with me

well i'm only friends with one person egix and that's the law

VOTE: egix

what is your actual reason here

[VFP]

do you have anything more substantial on ivy? her osuka push is weak but that alone doesn't really convince me.

Not really I just don't like the ISO.
It seems that Ivy is going for whats popular.

I'm waiting for some particular players to post right now, which will help read Ivy with their play.