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[JohnnyFarrar]

Spoken like scared of meta scumreads scum

[samantha97]

Votecount

VFP [3]:

ItalianoVD, JohnnyFarrar, Gamma Emerald

ItalianoVD [3]:

RLotus, ssbm_Kyouko, Save The Dragons

Save The Dragons [2]:

UC Voyager, Dunnstral

Gamma Emerald [2]:

VFP, Lukewarm

Noraa [1]:

Andresvmb

Dunnstral [1]:

Noraa

JohnnyFarrar [1]:

MaxTheFox

Not Voting:

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to reach majority.

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[ItalianoVD]

I can’t really read Gamma. The only thing I’ve got is that he doesn’t town read me when he’s town. I got nothing otherwise and that can easily be circumvented.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Mon is kookiemonster's other half

I also don't know who mon is and that doesn't help... what's his name?

pedit: looks like Johnny, right?

if you clicked on the link and went to the user profile and then clicked on the links in the signature, you'd know.

I only read the names in the sig and saw they didn't align with the player list, did not click the sig names

[Save The Dragons]

you're welcome to attempt to meta me from the hundreds of games i've played but i think my playstyle keeps evolving and changing so i don't know that it's helpful

[Noraa]

i wouldn't meta me everytime i get back into mafia i think i play a little different

meta mostly sucks anyway

VOTE: Italiano

meta is very important. I get soulreads from it but generally it takes a couple games with the person to get some reliable meta. in desperate times, their old games will do. Yours is not developed bc you haven't played much mafia overall and took some breaks!

Like mine for example, is pretty set in stone. If I seem like I'm excited, it means I'm town or have some god tier scum buddy! Which, in this this list, there is no god tier scum player that I know of. Therefore, by Noraa logic, I am obvtown.

[Noraa]

I mean not that many games as in this time when you came back. Most are ongoing I believe?

[Save The Dragons]

if you're aware of meta it's easy to play against it

i like to play capriciously because it's harder to meta and because it's more fun

if you want my completed games from my recent return to mafia i can give them to you

[ItalianoVD]

But my thing is why did you single out the VFP voters? Why not the Johnny voters or the Noraa voters. I’m trying to understand your angle here and it’s not making me feel good.

Correction, there were four wagons with 2 votes: Gamma, STD, Max, and VFP. I’m curious why VFP’s stood out to you over the others.

[Noraa]

hm. maybe my definition of meta is different. if I truly understand their meta, they cannot trick me!
meta for me is an overall vibe that can't be manipulated!!! because everyone thinks and behaves differently as different alignments. Small things can be changed but the overall vibe cannot :O

[Noraa]

at least I have never met someone who could trick me once I got their meta nailed down >.<

[Gamma Emerald]

But my thing is why did you single out the VFP voters? Why not the Johnny voters or the Noraa voters. I’m trying to understand your angle here and it’s not making me feel good.

Correction, there were four wagons with 2 votes: Gamma, STD, Max, and VFP. I’m curious why VFP’s stood out to you over the others.

May I speak on this? After OP answers of course, if I have something to add at that point

[Noraa]

A couple examples are Guillotina, Shellyc, and DK. Dunn I have not read wrong before but I'm not entirely sure if I have his meta down entirely yet.

[Save The Dragons]

i mean you could choose to play excited as scum one game without a perceived strong scum team or you could choose to play less excited as town one game to try and get people off of your meta

since i can't tell if you being excited is because you are town or because you know your meta and are playing it up as scum it's not really helpful

[Noraa]

You shouldn't be able to read me in your first game with me but there is a huge group of people that would say I'm town spewing if they were in this game :O

[Gamma Emerald]

at least I have never met someone who could trick me once I got their meta nailed down >.<

Not to be rude, but I do feel like you've at least had false starts in this regard, times you thought you had it figured out but found your body of work to be off. As such, I'd like some examples of who you've managed to figure out over time.

[Gamma Emerald]

lol my question jut got rendered moot

[ItalianoVD]

i wouldn't meta me everytime i get back into mafia i think i play a little different

meta mostly sucks anyway

VOTE: Italiano

You want somethin’?

[Noraa]

at least I have never met someone who could trick me once I got their meta nailed down >.<

Not to be rude, but I do feel like you've at least had false starts in this regard, times you thought you had it figured out but found your body of work to be off. As such, I'd like some examples of who you've managed to figure out over time.

A couple meta failures have been on Mon and BM. Those are the most notable ones.
I tried using the DK tell on BM which didn't work bc BM isn't similar enough to DK.
And Mon i once hard scum read but I mean those were like small meta tells that didn't really get his whole vibe :O
There's very few people whose meta I have down completely. I think that my meta tells will eventually get me much more accurate reads tho

[Lukewarm]

I think the main thing I wanna address here is the part about directly talking to Noraa
what I see as the core cause of that is that Noraa simply has the most posts so far, by a sizable margin. So it's easiest to interact with her.

Do not like this post.

VOTE: Gamma

Can you articulate why? I can see a potential logic to this comment, I wonder if I'm right about it.

I feel like you approached it defensively, when Noraa was not scum reading you for it, and I when I read through, I did not think twice about it. But for you it was "the main thing you wanna address here"

Felt like you were primed to defend yourself

[Save The Dragons]

i wouldn't meta me everytime i get back into mafia i think i play a little different

meta mostly sucks anyway

VOTE: Italiano

You want somethin’?

to vote you mostly

[UC Voyager]

I may not be the most active today due to the fact I'm moving currently and a have a U-haul for today and need to make the most of it. I'll still try to generate some content though when I can.

[Save The Dragons]

Should I vote two more times?

Is that your power? No wait don’t answer that.

why did you even post this

[VFP]

Probably to look town.

[ItalianoVD]

And yeah you are the townsiest townie that ever was in a town Noraa!

Remember a while back I said I could read you. I still think I can. It doesn’t really show up in your play. I think if you’re scum it’ll show up in your voting patterns. And I do vca so...