Mini Normal 2213 - Village (End Game)

[UC Voyager]

Yes, I too base reads on the quantaty of posts.

Nora's posts have substance too. If she was spamming things like "POTATO!" "MELON!" "2332!" then in fact I'd SR her for spamming the thread.

But what of the content seems town? You can spew content all day and it all be scummy. I originally town read Nor for that but now reading her ISO am less sure. Definitely not sure enough to say I still townread/lean her. Still think she can be town, but judging off activity is sort of just weak.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Is there a reason this game has devolved into voting for only low content slots? Does that mean we think everybody who is talking is town?

I think there's a good chance at least 1 scum is amongst the low content slots. I don't feel good about how lackadaisically the votes are drifting amongst them though. It's like Gamma, Johnny, and Noraa are all wanting to cast votes to pressure lurkers but they keep switching around seemingly before anything is accomplished.

What about you Dunn, the way you phrased that last question indicates to me you think that someone who is talking is not town. Am I right? Care to share your thoughts?

This seems so weird and task oriented? Are you voting scum right now? Tell me about them?

I think I am, yeah. Nobody else seems to think so though, or if they do agree even somewhat, dont seem interested in voting him.

I think this is the second time people ITT have been weirded out that I asked a player a direct question. It happened before when I asked UCV about Italiano and Luke. Was you both times I'm pretty sure. What bothers you about that exactly?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

^You can read my ISO to see about Italiano, pretty sure he is the subject of the majority of my posts.

[UC Voyager]

my experience with Dunn in completed games is one, he was town and barely showed up unless you attacked him

I think it's likely that Dunn is town. His posts don't seem particularly scummy at all.

[UC Voyager]

Is there a reason this game has devolved into voting for only low content slots? Does that mean we think everybody who is talking is town?

I think there's a good chance at least 1 scum is amongst the low content slots. I don't feel good about how lackadaisically the votes are drifting amongst them though. It's like Gamma, Johnny, and Noraa are all wanting to cast votes to pressure lurkers but they keep switching around seemingly before anything is accomplished.

What about you Dunn, the way you phrased that last question indicates to me you think that someone who is talking is not town. Am I right? Care to share your thoughts?

This seems so weird and task oriented? Are you voting scum right now? Tell me about them?

I think I am, yeah. Nobody else seems to think so though, or if they do agree even somewhat, dont seem interested in voting him.

I think this is the second time people ITT have been weirded out that I asked a player a direct question. It happened before when I asked UCV about Italiano and Luke. Was you both times I'm pretty sure. What bothers you about that exactly?

Not saying you didn't, just don't remember this. Can't seem to find it rn. I'm on phone.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Anyone else get the feeling this last round of postings from italiano are different somehow? Tone feels completely changed, like he's received coaching. Just woke up and read through it on my phone.

It does seem different tonally, but why is it indicative of coaching?

But it's got the snap and the crackle

But no pop

Nora just said that. What do you think of Italiano, and the Johnny-Luke interaction?

Is there a reason this game has devolved into voting for only low content slots? Does that mean we think everybody who is talking is town?

I think there's a good chance at least 1 scum is amongst the low content slots. I don't feel good about how lackadaisically the votes are drifting amongst them though. It's like Gamma, Johnny, and Noraa are all wanting to cast votes to pressure lurkers but they keep switching around seemingly before anything is accomplished.

What about you Dunn, the way you phrased that last question indicates to me you think that someone who is talking is not town. Am I right? Care to share your thoughts?

This seems so weird and task oriented? Are you voting scum right now? Tell me about them?

I think I am, yeah. Nobody else seems to think so though, or if they do agree even somewhat, dont seem interested in voting him.

I think this is the second time people ITT have been weirded out that I asked a player a direct question. It happened before when I asked UCV about Italiano and Luke. Was you both times I'm pretty sure. What bothers you about that exactly?

Not saying you didn't, just don't remember this. Can't seem to find it rn. I'm on phone.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

^Not sure why post 300 got Q+ed there, I think I went to reply on PC earlier and replied from my phone instead.

[Noraa]

Noraa no disrespect but, you asking me to look back into my mistakes without acknowledging that you played poorly there is uhm interesting. You incorrectly SR’ed me in that game and somewhat tunneled me and I definitely didn’t do the same to you. Though we definitely did have a style clash. So not quite sure what you’re talking about.

VOTE: Andres
Ok I want a catch up. Whether or not I did something wrong has nothing to do with your behavior this game. As compared to last game, I have given you multiple chances to change my mind. I've asked for content from you multiple times. You've consistently just provoked me instead of actually provide content.

[Gamma Emerald]

Lukewarm and ssb tbh feels TvT but I also SR both of them a little bit. I will go ahead and just mark it TvT and call it a day.

I reread the Kyouko/Luke interaction somewhat and this resembles my current thoughts on it

[JohnnyFarrar]

Doing a fun little off the dome exercise

Unwilling to vote:

Save The Dragons
Noraa
Dunnstral
VFP

Don't know and have no opinion:

Lotus
Gamma
Max

willing to vote

Italy
Kyoko
Luke
Andres
UC

[ssbm_Kyouko]

@Johnny

Is there a reason this game has devolved into voting for only low content slots? Does that mean we think everybody who is talking is town?

I think there's a good chance at least 1 scum is amongst the low content slots. I don't feel good about how lackadaisically the votes are drifting amongst them though. It's like Gamma, Johnny, and Noraa are all wanting to cast votes to pressure lurkers but they keep switching around seemingly before anything is accomplished.

What about you Dunn, the way you phrased that last question indicates to me you think that someone who is talking is not town. Am I right? Care to share your thoughts?

This seems so weird and task oriented? Are you voting scum right now? Tell me about them?

I think I am, yeah. Nobody else seems to think so though, or if they do agree even somewhat, dont seem interested in voting him.

I think this is the second time people ITT have been weirded out that I asked a player a direct question. It happened before when I asked UCV about Italiano and Luke. Was you both times I'm pretty sure.

What bothers you about that exactly?

[JohnnyFarrar]

I don't feel good about how lackadaisically the votes are drifting amongst them though. It's like Gamma, Johnny, and Noraa are all wanting to cast votes to pressure lurkers but they keep switching around seemingly before anything is accomplished.

Like you seem to be treating votes like there's some manual on how to use them somewhere and we're going off manual.

Like I'm not out here like "Let's vote the lurkers" and then hopping from one to the other, and I don't think the other two are either. you're treating the three of us like machine parts that haven't fallen in line and not like individual thinkers.

Especially not individual thinkers you're trying to sort.

Does that make sense? It's late and it's hard to put feelings into words

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I don't feel good about how lackadaisically the votes are drifting amongst them though. It's like Gamma, Johnny, and Noraa are all wanting to cast votes to pressure lurkers but they keep switching around seemingly before anything is accomplished.

Like you seem to be treating votes like there's some manual on how to use them somewhere and we're going off manual.

Like I'm not out here like "Let's vote the lurkers" and then hopping from one to the other, and I don't think the other two are either. you're treating the three of us like machine parts that haven't fallen in line and not like individual thinkers.

Especially not individual thinkers you're trying to sort.

Does that make sense? It's late and it's hard to put feelings into words

I get what you mean. I'm a logical thinker, so the way you are describing how I view votes is close to how I think about them. It's not so much that there is a manual but that I expect there to be a reason or a motivation that supports/drives the action of voting. I try to figure out what that reasoning is and decide whether town!player or scum!player would have that motivation.

So I see players saying things along the lines of "let's vote this player because they're inactive or not producing enough content" and it seems to me that the towny motivation for that vote is to get the target of the vote involved. But then the votes move to other players "before anything is accomplished," so it makes me wonder, was I wrong about the motivation? If I was wrong, was the actual motivation scummy?

I do understand what you're saying though.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

What I meant by my question though was, what was it that bothered you about my direct question to UCV in post 73 and my question to Dunn in 315? Or was I misunderstanding what you meant about 315, since it seems that it was the way I think about votes that bothered you? Even if I was misunderstanding what struck you about 315, I am still curious about 73.

Late here as well, may be heading to bed soon.

[VFP]

I'll be doing a catch up tonight.

[ItalianoVD]

my experience with Dunn in completed games is one, he was town and barely showed up unless you attacked him

So then you’d say that being lucky is nai?

[ItalianoVD]

*lurky

[ItalianoVD]

And hahaha the thought that I would say I can’t get on to play but would have the time to coach someone is nothing short of laughable. I don’t have to lie about my activity to win a game as Scum.

Yeah apparently we’re partners and you coached me to start posting “differently”. I think it’s more of an insult that if I was scum I’d need coaching.

[ItalianoVD]

Voting somewhere else without unvoting still counts IMO
As for “it was a joke”, I don’t get how that matters to me

Of course it does. I’m saying there were not multiple unvotes as you stated in 61. It may seem small but it’s important that information like that is accurate so as not to paint the wrong picture overall.

I’m asking if you feel differently about the unvote now that it was shown to be a joke to match VFP’s joke claim? And you didn’t answer my first question.

[ItalianoVD]

Sometimes he is, but when he is it doesn’t look like this IMO

Look like what? Can you show me what difference you’re seeing?

[ItalianoVD]

In a hypothetical situation where Italy WAS coached, Andres could be that coach. And he's still not in thread. So like.

VOTE: Andres

Not specifically for that, but just. Yknow. In general.

I hate this post on a lot of levels.

[ItalianoVD]

In a hypothetical situation where Italy WAS coached, Andres could be that coach. And he's still not in thread. So like.

VOTE: Andres

Not specifically for that, but just. Yknow. In general.

Very strange. Looks like he is grasping for a reason to switch his vote.

Willing to vote UC, Kyoko, Ita, Luke today. Anybody else you or they will have to convince me

VOTE: uc[/v]

Also what happened to this ahaha?

rtlotus pretty much said the same thing but dressed up nicer, right above where he says he needs to policy elim me because he can't read me

It ain't that serious lol. Not like I'm out for your head, but it would really help me if you give a bit more than the last times I played with you. I realized that's a bit hypocritical coming from me at this very moment. I'm just not tryna lose a third time in a row to scum!you.

In contrast this is a good post.

[ItalianoVD]

Lotus can you make me a cool Noraa list of who you've played with before and how you fare against town/ scum them?

So no response to 301 at all?

[ItalianoVD]

I feel like a person posts how they post and if that changes it can be an indicator that the words are being put in their mouth. It also feels like he was waiting for someone else to vote me first, which I dont think has anything to do with the coaching, but also seems scummy

What is your case on me again?

[ItalianoVD]

Is there a reason this game has devolved into voting for only low content slots? Does that mean we think everybody who is talking is town?

I mean why not. Voting doesn’t mean you’re getting eliminated, but it’s proven to get people’s attention.