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[osuka]

osuka, is this you? Confirm.
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If Dunn is town:
bugspray is pretended to be a derp and pushes my answer as a slip. Lemons and osuka hops in to try and build a viable wagon against me. Egix is a derp and misinterprets my answer as a slip to distance. To distance themselves from Dunn's lynch.

If Dunn is scum:
bugspray pretended to be a derp and pushes my answer as a slip. One out of these people—Lemons, osuka, Egix—hops in to try and build a viable wagon against me to save Dunn from a lynch.

Either way, I think Lemons is obvscum here.

it's _possible_ that it was me, but i don't get night action feedback so i really don't know for sure

[osuka]

Also if osuka ignores my request for crumb again, he's also scum.

i didnt crumb, feel free to vote me

[Egix96]

Geraintm only gets partial credit since Egix had already given intent to hammer.

If there is scum on the Bugspray wagon it is T3 or Geraintm.

Fwiw I don't see much town motivation in Geraint quickhammering as soon as he was awake.
Yes, agreed.

[osuka]

VFP because I saw him online and didn't even bother to comment and that was a "HMMMMM" moment for me.

quick side note: showing as online doesnt even mean theyre in front of the computer, let alone available to post

fuck off with this

[humaneatingmonkey]

if osuka doesn't declare who he targeted and why, he's scum.

[osuka]

If osuka doesn't claim responsibility for tonight's kill save and if osuka doesn't declare who he targeted and why, he's scum.

i'll declare who i targeted in a second here. i want to see everyone's reactions to no kill first

[osuka]

i'm catching up, fuck off

[osuka]

bugspray
• skirting in the sidelines
• surprisingly consistent but opaque process
• hasn't slipped in perspective
• i don't know if i can characterize their early setup spec as PR hunting
• isn't incoherently overexplaining in their defense.
take: unsure. very unsure. dare i say with a slight town bias. i almost want to lynch this for being tough to read, but that's not how you play this game.

distancing.jpg
VOTE: hem

You can't seriously think HEM is scum after how yesterday ended.

youll have to explain

[InsidiousLemons]

VOTE: osuka

okay, well, this is my tail tucked between my legs moment. i have been facepalming for the past 2 days at how obviously ridiculous osuka's push on hem was. i understand that osuka and i are both obvscum here, the only issue is that i'm not scum. i may have been stupid enough to believe the scumslip push, but i don't believe osuka is. i've seen his reasoning and it is never this overtly wrong. frankly i'm kind of surprised he thinks this push is still viable at all. yes, i understand how absolutely dripping in scum vibes it is to say all this as someone who hopped on the hem wagon. i'm saying it anyway. i really do not have an explanation for why i fell for the scumslip push other than that i was kinda tunneled on hem and really wanted to have found scum. if you still want to lim me tomorrow, do it. you'll have the votes i'm sure.

going back over the ISOs i think VFP could have partner equity with osuka. it's very rare (at least in my experience) to be able to find comments from osuka that overtly point to distancing with no grey area, so take this with a generous grain of salt, but osuka took multiple opportunities to take swipes at andante early in the game, knowing that she was playing pretty much identically to last game (when she was town). taken together with the post where he says he agreed with my early game analysis of andante, there is a case to be made for distancing here. i cant quote right now because mobile but you'll find them if you look. he'll probably counter that he was trying to see if she would react the same way to pressure, which is valid, but again, things are rarely black or white with osuka. VFP coming in and immediately saying he'll coast again could also be taken as VFP creating an opportunity for osuka to distance. again, the case is thin, but this is all my search for possible osuka partners really turned up. scum!Dunn is still a possibility and he didn't really have enough interaction to say whether there's equity there or not.

hem, it is kind of bizarre to me that you're going for me first over osuka. in your "if dunn is scum" scenario, why do you think i'm the scum over osuka?

anyway, hem is all but conftown for the quick flip onto bugs. the fact that osuka is continuing to push him even after the flip is even more damning.

[humaneatingmonkey]

i love you lemons

[Umlaut]

Osuka, I think the thread is pretty self-explanatory on this subject.

i can vote bugs here, Umlaut. But we need 3 more.

Anya, Ivyeo, VFP, Egix96, who wants to bumrush bugspray?

Bugspray (3): Dunnstral, T3, Umlaut, (humaneatingmonkey)

If bugs isn't viable, I'll stick to Dunn

Bugspray (3): Dunnstral, T3, Umlaut, (humaneatingmonkey), (Ivyeo)
We need two more for the bumrush

HEM, what's changed for you here? You're explicitly attempting to gather support for Bugs over Dunnstral now.

I thought your vote on him makes sense that it's better to flip him because it would yield more information — information that is necessary for me because I think there's an actual scum push to force a wagon on me and I want to know if bugs/osuka/lemons is a scum team.

Bugspray (3): Dunnstral, T3, Umlaut, (humaneatingmonkey), (Ivyeo), (Anya),
ONE MORE for the bumrush.

Let's switch wagons now.
VOTE: bugspray

HEM had already said earlier (and I called him out on this) that he was more willing to launch Dunn than Bugs. Dunn was at L-1. All HEM had to do was nothing. He had

no motivation at all

to so aggressively hype a Bugs wagon when Dunn was at L-1. Except maybe in the scenario where the team is exactly {Bugs, Dunn, HEM}, but I don't believe that and I don't think you do either.

[Anya]

Cook is a changed

organism

what happened here? did the feds get involved

yes

[InsidiousLemons]

at work so i haven't read much of what's been posted today. i'll take a look when i'm home

[Umlaut]

He had

no motivation at all

EBWOP: he had no motivation

if he were scum

[Anya]

I'm kind of okay with just saying me-Anya-HEM-Ivy-Dunnstral-Egix is town and launching everyone else in whatever order is convenient

i agree with all of these other than the hyena not sure why he's in the soup

[Anya]

VOTE: osuka for the monkeyeater vote

i don't think a town could be so deep in a miner's tunnel that he still doesn't realise the monkeyman is a beacon of light after yesterday

one of him or apples but not both don't think all 3 wolves go for the slip push thing

[geraintm]

If osuka doesn't claim responsibility for tonight's kill save and if osuka doesn't declare who he targeted and why, he's scum.

i'll declare who i targeted in a second here. i want to see everyone's reactions to no kill first

I've already reacted. I said I have nothing to add to what mod posted

[Anya]

so you're saying you're completely incapable of parsing a run-on sentence?

VOTE: osuka
this kind of post can only be made by scum

a disgusting porportion of osuka's posting is literally just being an unwiped asshole to other players. these types of non constructive posts should

never

be made by intelligent town players who are playing to their win condition. osuka is clearly not an idiot and therefore the only rational explanation is that the slot is scum.

wait i forgot that bugspray hired an air balloon advertising they weren't partners with osuka

VOTE: lemons

[humaneatingmonkey]

one of him or apples but not both don't think all 3 wolves go for the slip push thing

why not

[Anya]

usually wolves don't just all align obviously like that it seems off to their scent

[humaneatingmonkey]

wait i forgot that bugspray hired an air balloon advertising they weren't partners with osuka

this could also be distancing

[Anya]

"What do you not understand" can atleast lead to more understanding

yes it can

what's your point?

That wha you said didn't and was unhelpful

i'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume you're just really confused

you do realize it wasn't bugspray that asked that question right

hey, please don't gaslight people under any conditions ever. it's not okay

this as well

i dunno if bugspray is that good of a musician

[humaneatingmonkey]

depending on what osuka says about his night action, I think we lynch lemons > osuka > VFP > Geraintm > Ivy. Ivy might be our mole in the townbloc. If it's LYLO, I will always vote Ivy.

bugspray did the fake call-out on me when we were scum together.

[Anya]

gera could easily be driving without a seat belt as well

it's no longer day 1 gera so i wanna see some power drifts

[Anya]

bugspray did the fake call-out on me when we were scum together.

link?