Open 813: Isises Vs TBones (Game OVER)


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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Tue May 25, 2021 2:40 pm

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In post 74, T3 wrote:But I don't think we can stop this from happening unless we kill both scum.
So

x prevents o from winning by going opposite to where o just went

that means o has to then go to one of the corners in a way that prevents x from winning.

We prevent this scum are in autoloss
I am not following your scenario that forces a scum auto lose.

Because, from my understanding, the scum team should be able to force out a tie in the tic-tac-toe board Unless one of the slots they need happens to have one of the scum.

So imo, Day 1 we should focus on eliming a corner, which I would prefer to be one of the other corners, but I my slot is an ok choice.

Then, focus on scum hunting more then pic-tac-toe strategy, unless the scum make a bad tic-tac-toe move
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Tue May 25, 2021 3:04 pm

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T3 do you have any thoughts on the game not related to tic-tac-toe theory
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Tue May 25, 2021 6:20 pm

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In post 23, Dwlee99 wrote:Can the hydra claim posts please?
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Tue May 25, 2021 6:21 pm

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In post 62, Dwlee99 wrote:I'm still fine w my NM + dkk vote tyvm. Although, lukewarm's response to being called my partner is mighty funny. Kinda reads as caught for wrong reasons.

Also since I was at E-1, I'll claim: Vanilla Townie.
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Tue May 25, 2021 6:25 pm

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we're 1 shot bulletproof
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Tue May 25, 2021 6:48 pm

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I think the guy who softly suggested "let's kill the IC" is scum, but that's just me. VOTE: Dwlee99
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Tue May 25, 2021 7:10 pm

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In post 75, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 74, T3 wrote:But I don't think we can stop this from happening unless we kill both scum.
So

x prevents o from winning by going opposite to where o just went

that means o has to then go to one of the corners in a way that prevents x from winning.

We prevent this scum are in autoloss
I am not following your scenario that forces a scum auto lose.

Because, from my understanding, the scum team should be able to force out a tie in the tic-tac-toe board Unless one of the slots they need happens to have one of the scum.

So imo, Day 1 we should focus on eliming a corner, which I would prefer to be one of the other corners, but I my slot is an ok choice.

Then, focus on scum hunting more then pic-tac-toe strategy, unless the scum make a bad tic-tac-toe move
i think we should stop focusing tick tack tow for a bit.
"focus on eliming a corner" is meaningless. you still have to figure out what corner is best chance of scum, and i don't think we should limit ourselves like that if someone is scummy enough.
what are your thoughts on people's scumminess?
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Tue May 25, 2021 7:10 pm

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oh and r-1 also.
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Wed May 26, 2021 12:26 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Wed May 26, 2021 1:17 am

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I went through the possibilities and the only way for us to win by tic tac toe and scum can't do anything to stop it is if we know a scum that is in a center and then lim the people next to them.

if the scum go where we would have gone, in the corner, then we would do the optimal stragery and autowin.
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Wed May 26, 2021 1:22 am

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Example:
If we sr tris we lim the hydra. If tris is scum that forces them to kill me. Once they do that we can play optimally and get autowin because scum messed up. If tris is town then they play the optimal move and go in the middle. At this point the only way to win is by refloga.

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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Wed May 26, 2021 1:25 am

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We scumhunt in vulture std tris and stygian.
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Wed May 26, 2021 1:28 am

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Mathematically I think there should be a scum in these. If we find one of them as scum day 1 we should have an automatic win.
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Wed May 26, 2021 1:37 am

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In post 76, Stygian wrote:
T3 do you have any thoughts on the game not related to tic-tac-toe theory
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Wed May 26, 2021 2:28 am

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In post 1, Jingle wrote:
5. Mafia players may target themselves for nightkills.
Tris did you read this?
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Wed May 26, 2021 2:29 am

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T3*
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Wed May 26, 2021 4:48 am

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In post 89, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1, Jingle wrote:
5. Mafia players may target themselves for nightkills.
Tris did you read this?
i missed that as well actually
here's what it says
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Wed May 26, 2021 5:04 am

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In post 89, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1, Jingle wrote:
5. Mafia players may target themselves for nightkills.
Tris did you read this?
Oh :/
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Wed May 26, 2021 5:05 am

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VOTE: No Lim
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Wed May 26, 2021 5:07 am

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In post 88, Stygian wrote:
In post 76, Stygian wrote:
T3 do you have any thoughts on the game not related to tic-tac-toe theory
Out of the corners Dwelee should be town. Luke volunteered for the lim and I know I'm town.
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Wed May 26, 2021 5:20 am

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In post 94, T3 wrote: Out of the corners Dwelee should be town.
why do you say this?
Luke volunteered for the lim and I know I'm town.
as if volunteering for the lim guarantees that you'll be refloga'd. it's not beyond mafia to do such a thing.
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Wed May 26, 2021 5:22 am

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generally, things like self votes and willingness to be eliminated are meaningless gestures
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Wed May 26, 2021 5:31 am

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Thoughts on non-corners?

Because
In post 86, T3 wrote:We scumhunt in vulture std tris and stygian.
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Wed May 26, 2021 5:35 am

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In post 80, humaneatingmonkey wrote:I think the guy who softly suggested "let's kill the IC" is scum, but that's just me. VOTE: Dwlee99
i dunno, i had the same thought because i always thought middle was the best square, to keep it out of scum hands we would have to lim...er...refloga you d1. but i don't know how to solve tic tac toe. i'm probably just going to scumhunt.
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Wed May 26, 2021 5:39 am

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In post 98, Save The Dragons wrote:i dunno, i had the same thought because i always thought middle was the best square, to keep it out of scum hands we would have to lim...er...refloga you d1. but i don't know how to solve tic tac toe. i'm probably just going to scumhunt.
then you are also probably scum i guess thanks for saying
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