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[The Bulge]

Lukewarm

two of the games you linked in 44 are ongoing. please do not link to or discuss ongoing games in any capacity. this is an extremely essential rule of the site.

pagetopping this so it doesn't get glossed over and because the discussion goes on longer than I thought lol

[The Bulge]

T3 certainly does have a weird defense to the scum meta

[The Bulge]

not a big fan of Xlos's entrance

[The Bulge]

Bulge, what particularly stuck out to you about that? What stuck out to me was mostly that it was a brand newbie supposedly having read a bunch of games. This reads to me as if almost fake helpful and as if it was fed by a scumpartner.

In the queue I made it clear that I wasn't "a brand newbie", and was reading games. I urge everyone to give it a look.

Of all my accusers, this looks the worst.

VOTE: t3

are you only looking at your accusers?

[The Bulge]

Do you have any feelings about anyone so far?

tbh, it might just be that I'm out of practice, but I'm never really confident on reads day 1. You and Luke definitely seem to be pro-town so far, but everyone else is mostly null so far

That's fair. Day 1 is always a clusterfuck (at least in the irl mafia I've played). Maybe we can help get the ball rolling together? Why do you think me and Luke are pro-town? What do you make of the latter's points on T3, if anything?

You and Luke have been doing a lot more in-depth looking at who's posting what type of thing and why that seems more town or scum than the other people; that's definitely good town behavior, although you could easily be faking it.
As for the T3 stuff, I honestly don't know. As far as I can tell, t3 doesn't really have a list of games they participated in, and I don't have enough information to tell whether Luke picked a random bunch of games, random games that happen to show t3 in a negative light, or what

this feels all kinds of contrived but I think I wanna give this slot some time to simmer.

[The Bulge]

Alright, I have collected two weak pieces of evidence for the Zyla/Wayward Son scumteam.
First is the obvious

Not that I can prove it but I've never RVSed a scum buddy.

That definitely varies from person to person though, I knew a couple of people irl who would always vote for their scum partner day 1

Granted, they weren't very

good

at the game, but that's just because they were predictable, so it's better to switch it up
VOTE: Wayward Son

Second is the claim here

tbh I probably would have ignored 9 if it weren't for the "...yet" bit lol

their reaction to my vote is extremely newbscum too. and their whole attitude since then almost gives off an air of "oh yea? well you can't

prove

I'm scum" and it reeks.

I didn't think much of the pre-game meta homework but I'd buy that it was fed from a more experienced. scumpartner.

Honestly, while that is a possibility, there's also the fact that that are 2 possible role-sets that include masons, so it could be a townpartner as well

which is defending Wayward Son by bringing up an unlikely possibility (since he is the one reacting to the post of The Bulge).

Altogether not too convincing, but I'm going to keep my vote where it is.

hunting for associative tells at this stage in the game is generally a waste of time unless scummos are being, like, super obvious about it

[The Bulge]

Although, T3 almost confirmed by meta analysis on them in post 46. When he looked at how I described his town games vs his scum games, his response was "that's fair" not "you cherry picked those games, that is not always how I play"

Which is why his full response has me really confused. Saying "your meta analysis on me is fair, but you should also think that Wayward Son is scum" is wild. Like the more I think about it the stranger it is tbh. He never says I am wrong in my analysis. He never even says he is not scum. He agrees with my analysis, but then says "your theory only works if I'm scum with Wayward."

Which is a strange connection for a town player to draw between themselves and someone they are scum reading. If he thinks Wayward Son could be scum, then he should know that that is setting himself up to be miselimed Day 2 if Wayward Son does get flipped scum today.

But on the otherhand, if T3 IS scum, then he may know for a fact that Wayward Son is town, and therefore he knows that it is safe to tie his alignment to theirs.

It is a common scum tactic to try and pair either themselves or their partners with a town player. That way, if they town player flips first, it can soft clears the scum player, or on the other hand, if the scum player flips first, it can net the scum team a miselim the next day, helping their partner still secure a victory.

If you'd like some

legal

meta, I just modded a large normal where scumT3 laid down some incredibly bizarre distancing tactics D1 before being eliminated that ultimately factored into his team's win. giving me similar vibes here.

[The Bulge]

If you'd like some

legal

meta

this part is supposed to have big energy btw

[The Bulge]

no shade intended lol

[Lukewarm]

I'll be honest, I wasn't even thinking about the fact that I was responding to the person I was voting, I just used a random picker and got Wayward's name

Random is a lame reason to vote for someone IMO. It doesn't really encourage any discussion or have inspire any fear of being lynched. Even the first post of the thread had a reason to vote for someone! So that's my reason to VOTE: Zyla

Lukewarm

two of the games you linked in 44 are ongoing. please do not link to or discuss ongoing games in any capacity. this is an extremely essential rule of the site.

Oh. I'm sorry, I saw T3's alignment flip in each and I went with it. Because all I was looking for was his flip, I did not even think about whether they had concluded or not. My apologies.

[Lukewarm]

Opps. Ignore the Q+ mistake

[The Bulge]

all good, just something to always keep an eye out for

the ongoing games thing i mean. but that Q+ is a sneaky one as well.

[The Bulge]

mixlixwix and I have the same shitlist woohoo

[Lukewarm]

Lukewarm

two of the games you linked in 44 are ongoing. please do not link to or discuss ongoing games in any capacity. this is an extremely essential rule of the site.

pagetopping this so it doesn't get glossed over and because the discussion goes on longer than I thought lol

I am sure that the meta stands without the ongoing games, and if anyone wants they can dig into his other concluded games.

Again, apologies for the mistake

[The Bulge]

But I'd rather make a weak point then no point at all.

heuehueheheh

[The Bulge]

tbh I probably would have ignored 9 if it weren't for the "...yet" bit lol

their reaction to my vote is extremely newbscum too. and their whole attitude since then almost gives off an air of "oh yea? well you can't

prove

I'm scum" and it reeks.

I didn't think much of the pre-game meta homework but I'd buy that it was fed from a more experienced. scumpartner.

Could you clarify why their attitude gives off that air? I don't really see it.

mainly the "shook me so bad" bit, but "i've never rvsed a scumbuddy" and their seemingly only hunting within their accusers reinforces that for me.

I forgot to VOTE: The Bulge

any reason?

[Wayward Son]

Could you expand upon why this is the worse offender from your accusers/why that behavior is scummy? Do you agree with Lukewarm's meta case?

It feels like Bulge is actually questioning things. T3 is building some kind of narrative that doesn't make any sense. If my RVSing someone from a game I

just

finished has any scum potential (and to say I was coached into it) by Egix no less, sounds so out there I can't begin to fathom that its a real read.

I did read an Open where he was scum. In that game he kept his posts fairly short and won.

Zyla is my second suspect. Either scum or flighty town.

[Wayward Son]

mainly the "shook me so bad" bit, but "i've never rvsed a scumbuddy" and their seemingly only hunting within their accusers reinforces that for me.

Shook me so bad was a joke.

Never RVSed a scum buddy is true.

I've had 4 players out of 6(?) players actually playing, vote me at some point today. I don't believe all are town.

[Wayward Son]

It feels like Bulge is actually questioning things. T3 is building some kind of narrative that doesn't make any sense. If my RVSing someone from a game I just finished has any scum potential (and to say I was coached into it) by Egix no less, sounds so out there I can't begin to fathom that its a real read.

EBWOP: just finished reading

[Egix96]

Bulge, what particularly stuck out to you about that? What stuck out to me was mostly that it was a brand newbie supposedly having read a bunch of games. This reads to me as if almost fake helpful and as if it was fed by a scumpartner.

In the queue I made it clear that I wasn't "a brand newbie", and was reading games. I urge everyone to give it a look.

Of all my accusers, this looks the worst.

VOTE: t3

I think you'll just have to accept that people don't usually read sign up threads after inning.

[Egix96]

I did read an Open where he was scum. In that game he kept his posts fairly short and won.

Which he, sorry?

[Wayward Son]

Which he, sorry?

T3. But the game I looked at he actually lost.

Open 808.

[Egix96]

I am a bit wary that you appear to have discounted so many of the people that have not posted very much yet tho. Like, Egix, The Bulge, and [the Opposite slot] are all still sitting in null for me.

Yeah, sorry for not really engaging yet but I'll try to dig in some more later.

[Egix96]

Which he, sorry?

T3. But the game I looked at he actually lost.

Open 808.

Oh right, I thought you might have meant me.

[Gypyx]

votecount 1.2

MixLixWix (1) : Egix96
Wayward Son (2) : The Bugle - MixLixWix
T3 (3) : Lukewarm - Wayward Son - Zyla <--

E-2

The Bulge (1) : Xlos


Not Voting (2) : Opposit3s - T3

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-06-05 02:11:15), with 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate someone

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