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[samantha97]

Votecount

RLotus [6]:

Andresvmb, JohnnyFarrar, Noraa, ssbm_Kyouko, Save The Dragons, Lukewarm

[-1]

JohnnyFarrar [2]:

RLotus, ItalianoVD

Dunnstral [1]:

Gamma Emerald

Gamma Emerald [1]:

VFP

Save The Dragons [1]:

Dunnstral

Not Voting: UC Voyager, MaxTheFox

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to reach majority.

The day will end in (expired on 2021-05-28 14:03:00) or when majority is reached.

[VFP]

Something about this post in particular just feels... off. I can't put my finger on it.

I'm killing you tonight.
You're too close to revealing the truth!

[Dunnstral]

UNVOTE:

[ssbm_Kyouko]

UNVOTE:

What is this?

[VFP]

If Dragons ever flips red, we should suspect Dunn for taking pressure of his buddy!

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Dunn wasn't voting RLotus, RLotus is still L-1... But I think Dunn forgot who he was voting for which is concerning.

[VFP]

Thats why I say if Dragons flips red.
Also, I feel like Scum Dunn says a word or 2 if the unvote was from a Lotus mindset.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

oh Dragons. Sorry, I've been up nearly 24 hours at this point

[ItalianoVD]

Ehh, I don't think so because he jumped on Andres after calling out Noraa for splitting votes

I didn't scumread Dunn, unlike Noraa. That's why I questioned Noraa about it. Noraa there, scumreading both, would be better served with one big pressure wagon than two small ones, no?

Sure, but why call it out and then follow? Especially before she even responded to your initial question?

then jumped on RLotus not for his own reasoning,

Do town not sheep?

Maybe it's the lack of sleep, but being the shitty counter wagon to Lotus is frustrating

Yes. Personally I think it’s nai, but context matters obviously. Noraa is pretty much universally townread and scum can sheep the townie and not get called out for it. That’s the problem I have with your move. It was not

that

you did it but how you did it and what your actions were afterwards.

[ItalianoVD]

I'm having issues settling on a wagon. and more than normal. so idk someone else gotta be the town leader.

Aren’t you voting Lotus? Are you having second thoughts?

[Save The Dragons]

italiano, what's your read on lotus

[ItalianoVD]

Also, if I am right about Kyouko, I think Gamma is his partner.

But the Gamma read is a association based, so I would only push there if Kyouko flips red.

Spoiler:

Willing to vote UC, Kyoko, Ita, Luke today. Anybody else you or they will have to convince me

VOTE: uc[/v]

Luke is town

Literally every stance Kyouko has made feels off to me. Like they are hunting for excuses to scum read people (which scum do), instead of actually reading people (which townies do)

VOTE: Kyouko

I can see this, something seems off about that last wall

my suggestion is to either yeet Andres or Dunn.
It seems stupid to be going and yeeting Ita, VFP, or Mon who are all known to be LHF.

Dunn wagon has a decent amount of resistance. Tbh im really uncertain on Dunn but I do think that if he doesn't start towning up, he maybe should die today because if he is scum and gets replaced, its very damn possible that I'll just let him go and the replacement will slip by for a long time and that's horrible. And Andres dipped off saying he was drunk and still hasn't come back. I have a specific reason why I think Andres is scum which, if he is scum and comes back to the thread, I think I can verify. If he doesn't come back, then he needs to be replaced. However, I do also hope he doesn't rep out cuz my tell won't necessarily work on someone else. I think that if both Dunn and Andres get replaced, we should yeet Andres because im more confident in that being scum(kinda) I dunno im just still very weirded out that I dont have a solid read on Dunn at this point. Normally, like 3 posts in, I should already know exactly what alignment he is!!!!

I don't plan on needing a replacement...

That’s not what called for a response in that post

VOTE: Dunnstral
I would like to actively push this atp

No one asked, but this is why I feel like Gamma is partnered with Kyouko. Me and Kyouko have a decently sized back and forth about my scum read on him ending in post 259

Gamma comes in, after the entire back and forth is over, and has this have this very quick progression on the topic

• Luke is town (263)
  
• I agree that this could be suspicious (265)
  
• But look, Dunn (266)
  
• Lets actually talk about him (267)

Like they are all back to back, and look to me like they are actively trying to redirect the conversation without appearing to defend their partner.

It is the weird "I TR the person making the accusation, and even agree that Kyouko seems off, but lets not talk about that. Lets talk about a lurker instead."

So, incase anyone was interested where I am at, I am still leaning towards Kyouko for a vote today because it would give me more info on whether that really was a scum partner save from Gamma, or if Gamma really is town.

I scumread Gamma independently of ssbm. I do get what you’re saying however and it’s not a bad case.

But real quick, what do you think of ssbm’s 465? I’m big on tone and wording. Scum can be bold, but in this context I don’t know if kyouko would be given today’s events. I know you are a bit bias like I am, but if you can look at that and let me know if I’m wrong in that tone read or if I’m on the right track.

Can other people look at it as well. I asked but no one answered.

[ItalianoVD]

mmm I dont really buy the gamma/ssb case. its a bit far fetched. I think they could be buddies but probs not because of that. it seems really specific and things that specific aren't the most reliable imo.

So why do

you

think they could be buddies?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Wrt 465, Itali, I'm kind of subscribing to Noraa's 532 in regards to kyouko and I feel like that post fits the narrative Noraa put forth

[ItalianoVD]

A big part of the reason why my read on Kyouko hasn't changed is because absolutely no one engaged with our back and forth.

I read it but at the time I was having my own back and forth with ssbm. I didn’t not agree with it I just didn’t feel the need to say it since my mind was in a similar place.

[ItalianoVD]

AND there was no one who bothered to tell me my read/logic was shit.

Hey my bad on that.

[ItalianoVD]

Fuck it. time to turn off brain this game and sheep Noraa I guess

VOTE: rlotus

I get you’re frustrated but can we not do this?

[ItalianoVD]

Any responses to my reads?

Can you go in more depth about your reads on Kyouko and Gamma?

[ItalianoVD]

RLotus seems more like a confused town than a scum. There's the extremely weird push on him for reading active people as town which is ??????????
What if none of them seem scummy to him? What's he supposed to say then, lie about a scumread?

I don’t agree with the confused part, but I’m pretty much in line with everything else there.

[ItalianoVD]

UNVOTE:

What is this?

What is this? There’s a vote count at the top?

[ItalianoVD]

Also, I feel like Scum Dunn says a word or 2 if the unvote was from a Lotus mindset.

What does that last part mean?

[ItalianoVD]

italiano, what's your read on lotus

346 495 498 503 510 568

[VFP]

What does that last part mean?

I'm saying that I doubt scum Dunn unvotes Lotus here without a word or 2.
That was in response to Dunn maybe thinking that he unvoted Lotus at E1.

[ItalianoVD]

Wrt 465, Itali, I'm kind of subscribing to Noraa's 532 in regards to kyouko and I feel like that post fits the narrative Noraa put forth

Okayy, I understand how Noraa feels. What do

you

think about it? Do you think scum would be that bold? And I’m referring to this in particular…

God damn it I was going to vote him first

I’ll wait until you answer before I give my thoughts on it.

[VFP]

IVD, sell me on Johnny.