Mini Normal 2211 || Summer Meet [Endgame]

[Cook]

I'm thinking Cook here is asleep anyway.

Nothing was going to change my mind about osuka today.

I was in fact asleep. Flip shortly.

[Anya]

good morning chef

[Cook]

1449 hammered osuka. no further votes counted.

[Cook]

Final VC, Day Two

humaneatingmonkey (2): osuka, VFP
InsidiousLemons (1): Ivyeo
T3 (1): Egix96
VFP (1): Dunnstral

osuka (6) [HAMMER]: InsidiousLemons, Anya, Ivyeo, Umlaut, T3, humaneatingmonkey

With 11 alive it takes 6 to flip.

[Cook]

flavor

The table decides to eliminate

osuka.

He flips his card...

Spoiler: osuka flip

Welcome! You are a

Mafia Informed Traitor Personal Rolestopper

.

• Use your social deception skills and your vote to further the Mafia's goals.
• Your Mafia

REDACTED

As you are a Traitor, the Mafia knows you exist, but not who you are. You will not be granted access to the Mafia Private Topic. The Mafia's kill will work on you normally — you cannot be recruited.

• At night you may send me the name of a player.
• Any actions taken against your chosen target that are not factional will fail.
• You are in addition informed of the following:

REDACTED

.

You win once the Mafia reach an unopposable voting majority.
If you are the last remaining Mafia member, you will surrender and the Mafia will lose.

Night 2 has begun!

(expired on 2021-05-29 09:21:05) to deadline.

[Cook]

there is a very stealthy marathon happening this weekend

i'm willing to extend the night through this weekend if you want to go play that

[Cook]

flavor

"Heads up everyone!" Cook says. Everyone puts their heads up.
"Last night

Umlaut

was flipped. Umlaut, flip your card."

Umlaut flips his card...

Spoiler: flip

Welcome! You are a

Vanilla Townie

.
• Use your voice and your vote to help eliminate the scum.

You win upon all threats to the Town being eliminated.
The game thread is here.
Confirm by replying with your role and alignment.

[Cook]

headcount

T3, Anya, VFP, geraintm, Ivyeo, Egix96, humaneatingmonkey, Dunnstral, InsidiousLemons

With 9 alive it takes 5 to flip or no-flip.

(expired on 2021-06-05 10:40:33) to deadline.

Day Two has begun!

[humaneatingmonkey]

I think there's 2 more scum.

[Dunnstral]

4 scum in a 12 player game..?

[humaneatingmonkey]

3.5 scum.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Traitor

[Anya]

maybe there's more wolves than town

[Dunnstral]

Both mafia were informed

[Anya]

wonder why osuka never pushed on lemons even though he was his most likely alternative

[Dunnstral]

He had to keep up his claim which pushing lemons would not do

[Anya]

didn't he claim that after lemons was pushing him and was a popular wagon though

[humaneatingmonkey]

VOTE: Dunnstral Tell us your thoughts, man. You had interesting ideas yesterday.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Dunnstral Tell us your thoughts, man. You had interesting ideas yesterday.

It's not Egix

[humaneatingmonkey]

How come?

[InsidiousLemons]

it's super wifomy and maybe not even worth considering, but it

does

kinda feel like osuka's "how can you trust anything i say" was meant to make me think dunn was scum based on these posts

okay that's fine - we're saying dunnstral-osuka is not a strong associative. assuming i'm scum, doesn't that make him likely to be town?

if so - why wouldn't i put my vote behind the dunn wagon if i felt the game shifting towards a bugspray lynch? i'd rather have blood on my hands than a dead scum partner, because then in the absolute worst case (bugspray lynched d2) we've gained an extra day. how do you justify me not doing that? it makes zero sense to keep tunneling hem because his wagon was already really unlikely compared to dunn and bugspray, _and_ that was before it really was a choice between dunnstral and bugspray

mmm actually no dunn can still be your partner here. just because it isn't a strong associative in a scum direction doesn't mean it is a strong associative in a town direction. if a dunn lim wasn't looking preventable and the alternative was your other partner (bugspray), then sticking with the hem vote makes sense. if questioned about why you weren't on the dunn wagon, you could counter that you said you'd vote him and only didn't do so because you weren't in the thread when he got close to a lim.

not saying this is definitely what happened, but i don't think you not voting dunn makes him town automatically

i kind of was on the thread when we were very close to a dunnstral exec though. my last post, when i voted hem, was when dunn was at e-3, and only hours later he was at e-1 - can you really imagine a universe where that exec _doesn't_ go through if my vote is on there?

there was some resistance to the hem wagon that was just not there with dunnstral. i voted and immediately after two more votes came along, which is almost exactly what happened with dunn (one vote came and another immediately followed). that shows two things: 1, it would be stupid for me, as scum, to not shift to dunnstral (if town), and 2, that may indicate that the dunnstral wagon actually had scum on it

so for that reason alone i'm somewhat inclined to believe that dunnstral may be town. the only reason that slot is still alive is because of the bugspray flashtrain

[InsidiousLemons]

dunn is right that both mafia being informed might point to 3 scum rather than 4. it is true that a traitor typically indicates an extra mafioso, but in this case i'm not so sure. it could go either way

it's also just incredibly strange to me that with humaneatingmonkey being on both scum wagons, he's still alive today. i can't imagine he would actually hard bus 2 partners right off the bat though so this has to be scum making some weird gambit, right? why would you leave a conftown alive in favour of killing some random townie? did they think they caught a PR crumb?

[InsidiousLemons]

i still think it's more likely dunn than not

VOTE: dunnstral

[InsidiousLemons]

VOTE: unvote urgh unfortunately dunn is right here
my dislike for osuka is personal and i would love to see this slot yeeted regardless of alignment with no regard to how town would be more informed by the flip or the utility of a rolestopper but argh

also this is not really game related but the fact that bugspray is actually this bad at distancing is hysterical to me

god love ya bugsy

[humaneatingmonkey]

bugs didn't know osuka was scum

[T3]

Dunnstral was one of the original bugspray pushers and thescum prs seems pretty powerful so I think there's only 1 scum left.