Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -

[Titus]

@ffery, I feel my reads are pretty accurate this game. That being said, I feel you're town too. I don't want to get in your way, but I'd like to hasten the process of you getting onto my scumreads rather than someone like Flea.

Anya, A and NDMath are all excellent votes. G is a decent compromise. Their Bingle thing felt faked but I am all to aware of cross game biases.

If you think I'm scumreading Flea then you don't know what my reads are.

I don't think you are but your voting isn't making sense to me. We have a large overlap yet I can't get you or anyone to vote scum with me.

[Titus]

I pretty strongly disagree with an Anya vote. I don’t know who A is and I don’t feel like guillotina is scum this game.

A is Artemiana

[Guillotina]

@ffery, I feel my reads are pretty accurate this game. That being said, I feel you're town too. I don't want to get in your way, but I'd like to hasten the process of you getting onto my scumreads rather than someone like Flea.

Anya, A and NDMath are all excellent votes. G is a decent compromise. Their Bingle thing felt faked but I am all to aware of cross game biases.

What about it felt fake? (None of it was it).

[morph the cat]

Our vote takes an internal act of Congress to move. We are discussing it while I tell her to keep her claws inside the hydra during motion of the vehicle.

You'll have movement tonight.

[Bell]

Vote math with me and hope for the best?

[morph the cat]

Morph because Cabd.

Yeah, yeah, we know who the scary one is.

[Titus]

@ffery, I feel my reads are pretty accurate this game. That being said, I feel you're town too. I don't want to get in your way, but I'd like to hasten the process of you getting onto my scumreads rather than someone like Flea.

Anya, A and NDMath are all excellent votes. G is a decent compromise. Their Bingle thing felt faked but I am all to aware of cross game biases.

What about it felt fake? (None of it was it).

You were quoting posts after Bingle was revealed to be an IC and then claiming not to know.

[Titus]

Vote math with me and hope for the best?

Ok.

VOTE: NDMath

[Thestatusquo]

@ffery, I feel my reads are pretty accurate this game. That being said, I feel you're town too. I don't want to get in your way, but I'd like to hasten the process of you getting onto my scumreads rather than someone like Flea.

Anya, A and NDMath are all excellent votes. G is a decent compromise. Their Bingle thing felt faked but I am all to aware of cross game biases.

What about it felt fake? (None of it was it).

You were quoting posts after Bingle was revealed to be an IC and then claiming not to know.

See i like this. I need to think through this because i like both Titus and guillotina for scum so it's weird to see them interact like this and i agree with Titus point here.

[notscience]

I think I’m crazy
Agreeing with moon logic
I had the same thought

But Morph, please do tell
What’s the holdup with whemestar
He’s at the bottom.

[Thestatusquo]

Of course Titus has spent the whole game vaguely shading guillotina and then voting literally anyone else.

[morph the cat]

@ffery, I feel my reads are pretty accurate this game. That being said, I feel you're town too. I don't want to get in your way, but I'd like to hasten the process of you getting onto my scumreads rather than someone like Flea.

Anya, A and NDMath are all excellent votes. G is a decent compromise. Their Bingle thing felt faked but I am all to aware of cross game biases.

If you think I'm scumreading Flea then you don't know what my reads are.

I don't think you are but your voting isn't making sense to me. We have a large overlap yet I can't get you or anyone to vote scum with me.

We've put down one vote. That's probably way out there on the tail of the morphvote bell curve. The game isn't even 48 hours old.

We're regrouping and spinning the game on a different axis. It's not the work of a moment.

[NDMath]

Dunn scumread - Specifically the mastina vote didn't make sense from a logical standpoint and 402 is a poor reaction.

Was I right or not?

You were wrong? I feel like I'm misunderstanding something for that to be a question.

Ndmath is scum. I can't analyze depth but i can analyze them skipping right over my reply to them.

Didn't see it.

Mastina situation is unfortunate, I was hoping to get to play with them.

Read through the thread, struggling to process stuff to make reads off of.

Morph townread - Thought this from early on, primarily on tone. It's continued to be consistent.
Dunn scumread - Specifically the mastina vote didn't make sense from a logical standpoint and 402 is a poor reaction.
Titus scumread - their scumreads on both guillo & anya are over play style things and so seem lazy.

Why are you automatically assuming the reason for my reads? Why didn't you ask?

I didn't see what you could be reading anya for at that point in time that wasn't playstyle.
For Guillo was basing it primarily off the below post.
Overall point was your scumreads were on the two players with the most abnormal posting styles without other provided reasons and that doesn't seem natural for town.

Spoiler:

Joining this game was a bad idea.

This is probably the best built game that will be run this year so if you miss out you're just gonna have a bad case of FOMO

Based on what are you saying that this is the best game built? Do you have knowledge of more me hanics or roles than us?

This is yucky.

I am not the brightest bulb Wheme.

Anyway, I only really want to vote Bingle if they're scum(as in mafia).

I'm having one of those moments where I don't want to vote NDmath because he tends to flop over and can be a LHF town or actually scum.
I did not like his focus on entry.

Should have more time to try and engage tomorrow.
By focus I assume you're referring to the players I initially chose to comment on?


I townread each of guillo and shea now. Dragons repeated mention of hp also feels town.
VOTE: whemestar

[Bell]

Yes. That’s correct.

[Guillotina]

@ffery, I feel my reads are pretty accurate this game. That being said, I feel you're town too. I don't want to get in your way, but I'd like to hasten the process of you getting onto my scumreads rather than someone like Flea.

Anya, A and NDMath are all excellent votes. G is a decent compromise. Their Bingle thing felt faked but I am all to aware of cross game biases.

What about it felt fake? (None of it was it).

You were quoting posts after Bingle was revealed to be an IC and then claiming not to know.

So? That's no reason to call me fake. Check this out, i'm catching up right? So when i find something that catches my attention, i quote and post a comment to it which takes me to the latest page and i read the new posts there, if something catches my attention there i comment on it and then i go back to the page i was catching up at.

[Guillotina]

I do t understand the good vibes Morph is getting from Titus although i must admit that i may be negatively biased on Titus and she has been shading me ever since i scum read her earlier today, a read that i dont think im changing today.

[morph the cat]

Spoiler: Ircher Post

It's an easy entry for scum to make and has the bonus of actually being bad for town in that in general more discussion equals more potential signal even at the cost of more noise.

This is actually false. It's not the amount of signal that matters, it's the

ratio

of signal to noise that matters. That's not to say absolute amount of signal doesn't matter, but as the number of posts increase, the marginal benefit of even more posts slowly decreases over time. Eventually, it becomes so minuscule that it is either not worth it or actually harmful to the direction of the game.

(That said, I don't disagree with your vote and read on LLD here.)

Legitimately, I think we should leave LLD to be solved by scum. There's likely a SK which means she's probably not going to endgame and even if she is scum getting that lim is going to be a gigantic PITA. If we just assume she's town that should save me a lot of effort.

What kind of attitude of this? I don't think we should be giving anyone a free D1 pass.

This wasn't a D1 strategy. This is a until we flip a third party strategy.

This is even worse! Why are you so sure scum will kill LLD, especially if she is scum?

I have two by now-
Shining, sparkling shows of town
The ball’s in your court.

Let me guess... You have to post in Haikus all game as a post restriction? Or is this a self-imposed one for fun?
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Page 4 is almost pure fluff...
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Not to be all LAMIST but solve me, don't be apathetic about it. Look into the why of my posts.

You seem quite defensive for how early in the game it is (as of when you made this post).

oh also can hydras try to sign off with which head makes the post? That would be helpful for me, a person who really doesn't work well with reading hydras.

Wait which slots are hydras? ...Oh morph and White Fire. I should read more carefully.

Would I scum read some random person with a join date of yesterday for stating it? Possibly.

Correct me if I am wrong, but if this is the case, why are you going after Shea so aggressively for his read. Early game reads don't have to be air-tight; on the contrary, even minor quibbles are valid reasons for votes.

but "why" did shea make it? is it perhaps because he's annoyed he can't get the towncred for the towny-shea posting? hm hm hm? it's okay though, i understand. i do the same thing as scum.

Redacted.

Odds are in my favor ur town. U get scumread too often in games and i liked ur response.
Plus i think it would be amusing to see if i can get u paranoid.

Most of this is weak reasoning, but I actually think this comes from town more often than scum.

Hot take: Chara is scum.

Good take.

At bottom of 124. Will try to read another 5 or so pages tomorrow.

I dislike pretty much all of this post but especially the characterizaiton as our taking Shea to task as "agressive" when there was no vote or even intent to vote.

Also hate insisting on playing entirely on the past for multiple IRL game days. My town-ircher model I think uses new data to have a more informed and new fresh take on the early game when catching up, as to bring something new to the table.

[notscience]

Let me know if you
Both decide where we should go
I’ll just be waiting

I would be okay
If ircher was our target
That post was not good

[Thestatusquo]

Spoiler: Ircher Post

It's an easy entry for scum to make and has the bonus of actually being bad for town in that in general more discussion equals more potential signal even at the cost of more noise.

This is actually false. It's not the amount of signal that matters, it's the

ratio

of signal to noise that matters. That's not to say absolute amount of signal doesn't matter, but as the number of posts increase, the marginal benefit of even more posts slowly decreases over time. Eventually, it becomes so minuscule that it is either not worth it or actually harmful to the direction of the game.

(That said, I don't disagree with your vote and read on LLD here.)

Legitimately, I think we should leave LLD to be solved by scum. There's likely a SK which means she's probably not going to endgame and even if she is scum getting that lim is going to be a gigantic PITA. If we just assume she's town that should save me a lot of effort.

What kind of attitude of this? I don't think we should be giving anyone a free D1 pass.

This wasn't a D1 strategy. This is a until we flip a third party strategy.

This is even worse! Why are you so sure scum will kill LLD, especially if she is scum?

I have two by now-
Shining, sparkling shows of town
The ball’s in your court.

Let me guess... You have to post in Haikus all game as a post restriction? Or is this a self-imposed one for fun?
---
Page 4 is almost pure fluff...
---

Not to be all LAMIST but solve me, don't be apathetic about it. Look into the why of my posts.

You seem quite defensive for how early in the game it is (as of when you made this post).

oh also can hydras try to sign off with which head makes the post? That would be helpful for me, a person who really doesn't work well with reading hydras.

Wait which slots are hydras? ...Oh morph and White Fire. I should read more carefully.

Would I scum read some random person with a join date of yesterday for stating it? Possibly.

Correct me if I am wrong, but if this is the case, why are you going after Shea so aggressively for his read. Early game reads don't have to be air-tight; on the contrary, even minor quibbles are valid reasons for votes.

but "why" did shea make it? is it perhaps because he's annoyed he can't get the towncred for the towny-shea posting? hm hm hm? it's okay though, i understand. i do the same thing as scum.

Redacted.

Odds are in my favor ur town. U get scumread too often in games and i liked ur response.
Plus i think it would be amusing to see if i can get u paranoid.

Most of this is weak reasoning, but I actually think this comes from town more often than scum.

Hot take: Chara is scum.

Good take.

At bottom of 124. Will try to read another 5 or so pages tomorrow.

I dislike pretty much all of this post but especially the characterizaiton as our taking Shea to task as "agressive" when there was no vote or even intent to vote.

Also hate insisting on playing entirely on the past for multiple IRL game days. My town-ircher model I think uses new data to have a more informed and new fresh take on the early game when catching up, as to bring something new to the table.

Do you think its fair to say that perhaps "whether or not you voted" is a strange line for you to use for "aggression" when you yourself have said that you vote infrequently and mostly when very sure?

I agree that the post wasn't aggressive and more took it as you trying to give me context, but at the same time this is the second time you've made an argument that I would describe as kind of disingenuous.

[Titus]

Shea, who do you think is town? I see a lot of posts shading people but not many trying to unify.

[Bingle]

The key to reading me is I'm actually really bad at town so if my reads are bad it means I'm probably town but if i end up on the tail end of some scum wagons I'm probably scum.

The key to reading me is to wait for the mod to tell you that I'm town. If that happens, I'm town 100% of the time. I would even go so far as to say that being modconfirmed is a trusttell of mine as I have never been modconfirmed as town as scum. Unfortunately, I don't do it every town game.

This has been snark with Bingle.

[morph the cat]

Spoiler: Ircher Post

It's an easy entry for scum to make and has the bonus of actually being bad for town in that in general more discussion equals more potential signal even at the cost of more noise.

This is actually false. It's not the amount of signal that matters, it's the

ratio

of signal to noise that matters. That's not to say absolute amount of signal doesn't matter, but as the number of posts increase, the marginal benefit of even more posts slowly decreases over time. Eventually, it becomes so minuscule that it is either not worth it or actually harmful to the direction of the game.

(That said, I don't disagree with your vote and read on LLD here.)

Legitimately, I think we should leave LLD to be solved by scum. There's likely a SK which means she's probably not going to endgame and even if she is scum getting that lim is going to be a gigantic PITA. If we just assume she's town that should save me a lot of effort.

What kind of attitude of this? I don't think we should be giving anyone a free D1 pass.

This wasn't a D1 strategy. This is a until we flip a third party strategy.

This is even worse! Why are you so sure scum will kill LLD, especially if she is scum?

I have two by now-
Shining, sparkling shows of town
The ball’s in your court.

Let me guess... You have to post in Haikus all game as a post restriction? Or is this a self-imposed one for fun?
---
Page 4 is almost pure fluff...
---

Not to be all LAMIST but solve me, don't be apathetic about it. Look into the why of my posts.

You seem quite defensive for how early in the game it is (as of when you made this post).

oh also can hydras try to sign off with which head makes the post? That would be helpful for me, a person who really doesn't work well with reading hydras.

Wait which slots are hydras? ...Oh morph and White Fire. I should read more carefully.

Would I scum read some random person with a join date of yesterday for stating it? Possibly.

Correct me if I am wrong, but if this is the case, why are you going after Shea so aggressively for his read. Early game reads don't have to be air-tight; on the contrary, even minor quibbles are valid reasons for votes.

but "why" did shea make it? is it perhaps because he's annoyed he can't get the towncred for the towny-shea posting? hm hm hm? it's okay though, i understand. i do the same thing as scum.

Redacted.

Odds are in my favor ur town. U get scumread too often in games and i liked ur response.
Plus i think it would be amusing to see if i can get u paranoid.

Most of this is weak reasoning, but I actually think this comes from town more often than scum.

Hot take: Chara is scum.

Good take.

At bottom of 124. Will try to read another 5 or so pages tomorrow.

I dislike pretty much all of this post but especially the characterizaiton as our taking Shea to task as "agressive" when there was no vote or even intent to vote.

Also hate insisting on playing entirely on the past for multiple IRL game days. My town-ircher model I think uses new data to have a more informed and new fresh take on the early game when catching up, as to bring something new to the table.

Do you think its fair to say that perhaps "whether or not you voted" is a strange line for you to use for "aggression" when you yourself have said that you vote infrequently and mostly when very sure?

I agree that the post wasn't aggressive and more took it as you trying to give me context, but at the same time this is the second time you've made an argument that I would describe as kind of disingenuous.

Agree to disagree line be here, I guess. I get really annoyed when people apply emotional tags like "aggressive" when I was going out of my way to be extremely passive and patient epxlainy.

[morph the cat]

Let me know if you
Both decide where we should go
I’ll just be waiting

I would be okay
If ircher was our target
That post was not good

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Ircher


As the hydra chat spayhalf sayith: "I'd prefer Ircher of those"

[morph the cat]

Spoiler: Ircher Post

It's an easy entry for scum to make and has the bonus of actually being bad for town in that in general more discussion equals more potential signal even at the cost of more noise.

This is actually false. It's not the amount of signal that matters, it's the

ratio

of signal to noise that matters. That's not to say absolute amount of signal doesn't matter, but as the number of posts increase, the marginal benefit of even more posts slowly decreases over time. Eventually, it becomes so minuscule that it is either not worth it or actually harmful to the direction of the game.

(That said, I don't disagree with your vote and read on LLD here.)

Legitimately, I think we should leave LLD to be solved by scum. There's likely a SK which means she's probably not going to endgame and even if she is scum getting that lim is going to be a gigantic PITA. If we just assume she's town that should save me a lot of effort.

What kind of attitude of this? I don't think we should be giving anyone a free D1 pass.

This wasn't a D1 strategy. This is a until we flip a third party strategy.

This is even worse! Why are you so sure scum will kill LLD, especially if she is scum?

I have two by now-
Shining, sparkling shows of town
The ball’s in your court.

Let me guess... You have to post in Haikus all game as a post restriction? Or is this a self-imposed one for fun?
---
Page 4 is almost pure fluff...
---

Not to be all LAMIST but solve me, don't be apathetic about it. Look into the why of my posts.

You seem quite defensive for how early in the game it is (as of when you made this post).

oh also can hydras try to sign off with which head makes the post? That would be helpful for me, a person who really doesn't work well with reading hydras.

Wait which slots are hydras? ...Oh morph and White Fire. I should read more carefully.

Would I scum read some random person with a join date of yesterday for stating it? Possibly.

Correct me if I am wrong, but if this is the case, why are you going after Shea so aggressively for his read. Early game reads don't have to be air-tight; on the contrary, even minor quibbles are valid reasons for votes.

but "why" did shea make it? is it perhaps because he's annoyed he can't get the towncred for the towny-shea posting? hm hm hm? it's okay though, i understand. i do the same thing as scum.

Redacted.

Odds are in my favor ur town. U get scumread too often in games and i liked ur response.
Plus i think it would be amusing to see if i can get u paranoid.

Most of this is weak reasoning, but I actually think this comes from town more often than scum.

Hot take: Chara is scum.

Good take.

At bottom of 124. Will try to read another 5 or so pages tomorrow.

I dislike pretty much all of this post but especially the characterizaiton as our taking Shea to task as "agressive" when there was no vote or even intent to vote.

Also hate insisting on playing entirely on the past for multiple IRL game days. My town-ircher model I think uses new data to have a more informed and new fresh take on the early game when catching up, as to bring something new to the table.

Do you think its fair to say that perhaps "whether or not you voted" is a strange line for you to use for "aggression" when you yourself have said that you vote infrequently and mostly when very sure?

I agree that the post wasn't aggressive and more took it as you trying to give me context, but at the same time this is the second time you've made an argument that I would describe as kind of disingenuous.

Agree to disagree line be here, I guess. I get really annoyed when people apply emotional tags like "aggressive" when I was going out of my way to be extremely passive and patient epxlainy.

I'm a bit on the sideline of this convo, but just because we don't put votes down early and often does not mean that we're shy about making our thoughts known about players. Far from it.

You can usually see my incoming vote from orbit well in advance of it landing.

[Thestatusquo]

First of all i think you saying I'm throwing shade is a misrep. I'm poking at places that look weird to me. This is what I do.

I'm not a huge town read person generally speaking but off the top of my head without much reflection:

i think murder is town.
I think chara is town.
I'm vaguely paranoid of toog but i think they're town.
I felt bingle was pretty town before they confirmed themself.

I lean town on morph

Most other people are in various states of null with leans in either direction and I'm poking on those people most of all.