Mini Normal 2213 - Village (End Game)

ItalianoVD · Post Post #750 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 5:02 am

In post 701, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Luke was pointing right at kyouko most of the day yesterday, that's an obvious nightkill for kyouko scum

Maybe because I’m scumreading you and/or had questions about my read on ssbm, this reads to me like a setup. Didn’t you and Lukewarm have a few interactions? I don’t remember why you wanted to vote him, but I can see scum!you making that kill so you wouldn’t have to worry about him turning his sights on you.

ItalianoVD · Post Post #751 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 5:07 am

In post 703, Noraa wrote:Lukewarm dying was not an expected result.
im assuming our most powerful pr is dead so we should vote with caution from now on ig :/

I read your interaction with ssbm late in the day and I see you were having second thoughts on Lotus. I’m not coming after you but I’m curious why you didn’t try to push against Lotus harder?

ItalianoVD · Post Post #752 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 5:11 am

In post 719, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 701, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Luke was pointing right at kyouko most of the day yesterday, that's an obvious nightkill for kyouko scum
That is what happened upon me, as well.

Ahh, so I’m guessing you don’t see it the way I do?

ItalianoVD · Post Post #753 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 5:12 am

In post 725, Noraa wrote:Luke is such a strange nk imo. he wasn't exactly widely TRed and I would assume he didn't crumb pr given he flipped vt

What do you think about 750?

ItalianoVD · Post Post #754 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 5:13 am

Or 701?

ItalianoVD · Post Post #755 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 5:14 am

In post 728, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 725, Noraa wrote:Luke is such a strange nk imo. he wasn't exactly widely TRed and I would assume he didn't crumb pr given he flipped vt
I thought he was widely TRed, he was my only solid one

What are

your

thoughts on 701?

Noraa · Post Post #756 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 5:16 am

In post 751, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 703, Noraa wrote:Lukewarm dying was not an expected result.
im assuming our most powerful pr is dead so we should vote with caution from now on ig :/
I read your interaction with ssbm late in the day and I see you were having second thoughts on Lotus. I’m not coming after you but I’m curious why you didn’t try to push against Lotus harder?

there was no time. if lotus had simply claimed either JKer or Cop, I would've 100% made sure we moved off but he didn't so I had no choice but to keep waiting for a claim. later in the day I started suspecting he was a town pr. I unvoted but I really couldn't do much else. it really is impossible to stop a large wagon that late in the day without a claim especially if they arent a hard TR of mine. I'm not willing to stop it bc what if it is scum? its a difficult balance

Noraa · Post Post #757 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 5:17 am

In post 749, MaxTheFox wrote:Cop enabler seems like a good role to put on a mafioso to reduce swing.

I had this thought as well actually.

Noraa · Post Post #758 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 5:18 am

In post 753, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 725, Noraa wrote:Luke is such a strange nk imo. he wasn't exactly widely TRed and I would assume he didn't crumb pr given he flipped vt
What do you think about 750?

In post 754, ItalianoVD wrote:Or 701?

those are both pretty flimsy and surface level reasonings but idk maybe? I just think they aren't very convincing

Noraa · Post Post #759 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 5:20 am

In post 749, MaxTheFox wrote:I'd like people who SR me to explain why if it's not a gut read.

why? you've provided basically the minimum content what strong reasons could there be?
why I SR you, I won't be revealing rn. I have my reasons.

ItalianoVD · Post Post #760 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 5:43 am

In post 733, Save The Dragons wrote:I worry the hammer might be too obvious coming from scum but I could be wrong

I’d like to think that and just submit to the fact I’m just being emotional, but that was bad my dude.

ItalianoVD · Post Post #761 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 5:44 am

In post 756, Noraa wrote:there was no time. if lotus had simply claimed either JKer or Cop, I would've 100% made sure we moved off but he didn't so I had no choice but to keep waiting for a claim. later in the day I started suspecting he was a town pr. I unvoted but I really couldn't do much else. it really is impossible to stop a large wagon that late in the day without a claim especially if they arent a hard TR of mine. I'm not willing to stop it bc what if it is scum? its a difficult balance

Aight yeah I definitely get that. It is a tough situation.

ItalianoVD · Post Post #762 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 5:47 am

In post 758, Noraa wrote:
In post 753, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 725, Noraa wrote:Luke is such a strange nk imo. he wasn't exactly widely TRed and I would assume he didn't crumb pr given he flipped vt
What do you think about 750?

In post 754, ItalianoVD wrote:Or 701?
those are both pretty flimsy and surface level reasonings but idk maybe? I just think they aren't very convincing

Well okay, I guess. I asked because you said you have a better understanding or feel for Johnny and wanted to know if the logic he used was something you’ve seen from town him or scum him.

Noraa · Post Post #763 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 5:50 am

In post 762, ItalianoVD wrote:better understanding or feel for Johnny

LOL NO. I have zero understanding for how that dude works. He's amazing and kind but I don't have any idea how to read him. I've played with him so many times but I really still have no clue how to read him.

ItalianoVD · Post Post #764 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 5:55 am

In post 749, MaxTheFox wrote:I'd like people who SR me to explain why if it's not a gut read.

I mean I don’t particularly scumread you, but there isn’t enough content or interaction from you that I could sort you properly.

ItalianoVD · Post Post #765 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 5:55 am

Like I don’t think you ever did this. Unless I missed it.

In post 567, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 543, MaxTheFox wrote:Any responses to my reads?
Can you go in more depth about your reads on Kyouko and Gamma?

ItalianoVD · Post Post #766 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 5:57 am

In post 763, Noraa wrote:
In post 762, ItalianoVD wrote:better understanding or feel for Johnny
LOL NO. I have zero understanding for how that dude works. He's amazing and kind but I don't have any idea how to read him. I've played with him so many times but I really still have no clue how to read him.

Oh my bad. I thought you meant the opposite.

Well that sucks, lol

Save The Dragons · Post Post #767 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 7:03 am

i guess i'm confused either way about fmft's play

VOTE: free money free tea e-2

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #768 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 7:40 am

In post 744, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Gamma is it true that part of your role is Cop enabler?

Yes
Though I’m skeptical of how that makes me town, and I also had suspicions upon receiving my role about how I should go about claiming based on a guess that scum might be informed of my role. So I don’t really trust FMFT off this claim.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #769 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 7:42 am

In post 749, MaxTheFox wrote:Cop enabler seems like a good role to put on a mafioso to reduce swing. But that's not hard evidence for Gamma being scum because that might be what the mod wants us to think.

I'd like people who SR me to explain why if it's not a gut read.

Yeah, this is exactly why FMFT’s blind trust of me was concerning.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #770 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:51 am

I'm getting inexperienced vibes off fmft

Andresvmb · Post Post #771 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 9:10 am

I’m not. Claiming that there’s a Cop Enabler that they’re aware of after the Cop is flipped seems reasonable to me. The hammer wasn’t, but I also don’t like the single handed focus here on them when the push onto RLotus was dreadful and we should have backed off.

Andresvmb · Post Post #772 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 9:10 am

Gamma seemed to be baiting Noraa and I’m not sure why no one is talking about that.

Andresvmb · Post Post #773 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 9:12 am

In post 702, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Andre, did you know? About the role I mean?

Are you asking me if I knew RLotus was Cop / Jailkeeper? No, I could just tell they were obvious Town and had good reason not to want to claim prematurely. It’s kind of concerning I’m the only one who saw that. I think the Scum quickly picked up RLotus was a PR and railroaded them there.

Andresvmb · Post Post #774 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 9:13 am

In post 703, Noraa wrote:Lukewarm dying was not an expected result.
im assuming our most powerful pr is dead so we should vote with caution from now on ig :/

And Lukewarm was clearly a smart player. That’s why they were NK’ed.