Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -

[Thestatusquo]

I like disco Elysium

Me too, I could gush about it for up to an hour! Are you scum?
Roll for initiative.

Nah. And honestly i found your characterization of me as not hunting as kind of nonsense. I've already got several reads I'm pretty happy about which is more than i was expecting by page 20.

shea, could you talk about the reads you had at this point?

I was literally asked that same question at the time and responded at the time so you're probably better off finding that post then me trying to remember what I was thinking in the halcyon days of 3 days ago.

[Something_Smart]

Back.

I can read everything, but not necessarily right now.

[morph the cat]

I want to poke more at std and why people think he's town. I haven't really seen anything outside his scum range imo and i didn't like his particular positioning on the bingle wagon.

Could you expand on STD's scumrange?

I like disco Elysium

Me too, I could gush about it for up to an hour! Are you scum?
Roll for initiative.

Nah. And honestly i found your characterization of me as not hunting as kind of nonsense. I've already got several reads I'm pretty happy about which is more than i was expecting by page 20.

shea, could you talk about the reads you had at this point?

I was literally asked that same question at the time and responded at the time so you're probably better off finding that post then me trying to remember what I was thinking in the halcyon days of 3 days ago.

You did lay down reads across a few posts shortly after that, but I don't feel like they added up to "several". So, I thought there might have been more.

[Something_Smart]

I don't believe that this is a real read you have

Wha-

Why not?

[WhemeStar]

Bell do you have an S_S read?

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Wheme

You've expressed townreads of Toog and Titus. You've voted (in order) Farkran, Anya, notsci, and whitefire. (plus Bingle, but that looked like a sheep vote)

Did you change votes because you stopped scumreading the previous vote? because the next vote was a stronger scumread? because another wagon looked like it was stronger? Some other reason?

You said something about wanting to townread some players but fearing you'd be wrong(?). Who are the players you're concerned look town but might not be?

Quoting this so I respond to it later and don’t forget because I want to respond to it

[Guillotina]

why I think sigmund has been scummy but I think guillotinas TMI case is nonsense.

Ive been playing this game for teo decades and thefe is o e a solute truth i learnt about Mafia.

Tne only difference between town and mafia is TMI.

[Guillotina]

Also, i hate my tablet's keyboard.

[Thestatusquo]

I want to poke more at std and why people think he's town. I haven't really seen anything outside his scum range imo and i didn't like his particular positioning on the bingle wagon.

Could you expand on STD's scumrange?

I like disco Elysium

Me too, I could gush about it for up to an hour! Are you scum?
Roll for initiative.

Nah. And honestly i found your characterization of me as not hunting as kind of nonsense. I've already got several reads I'm pretty happy about which is more than i was expecting by page 20.

shea, could you talk about the reads you had at this point?

I was literally asked that same question at the time and responded at the time so you're probably better off finding that post then me trying to remember what I was thinking in the halcyon days of 3 days ago.

You did lay down reads across a few posts shortly after that, but I don't feel like they added up to "several". So, I thought there might have been more.

1) I can't discuss the STD thing in great detail.

2) A couple of the less concrete ones have popped up. For instance I think I mentioned that firebringer was bugging me, but I don't remember exactly what I was thinking at that specific point in time in a more granular sense. Also idk it was like 30 seconds into the game.

[Guillotina]

why I think sigmund has been scummy but I think guillotinas TMI case is nonsense.

Ive been playing this game for two decades and there is one absolute truth i learnt about Mafia.

The only difference between town and mafia is TMI

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Correction

[Thestatusquo]

The second thing you said was tmi is just objectively not tmi.

[morph the cat]

1. Morph the Cat (fferyllt/Cabd) - Town
2. Dunnstral - Null town
3. Save the Dragons - I want to say town but I may be attributing some posts of them in my mind to Morph. Gmth town
4. White Fire (Shiro/Firebringer) - Null town, only reserve is buddying.
5. Lady Lambdadelta - Weak town (solely bc past baggage, anyone else solid town)
6. jjh927 Ircher - Null
7. Artemiana - Null scum
8. Sigmund - Null, gtmh town
9. Titus - Moonwalker
10. Bell - Townish
12. NDMath - lean scum
13. WhemeStar - Null, would compromise
14. notscience - Moderate town, hard with the PR
15. Anya - lean scum
16. Guillotina - Null, high priority to sort
17. Toogeloo - Weak town
18. Flea the Magician - Null (I need to sort them)
19. Chara - Weak town
20. Thestatusquo - I want to say town but keeps defending scum
21. MURDERCAT - Town
22. Farkran - Town
23. Bingle - Town
24. Something_Smart - Weak town

I'm ok with this for now

Want this in my iso and i roughly agree with all these reads except murdercat which is a scumlean to me, and guillotine who pinged me wrong but i will need to check again and i may defer this read to others. Confidence level varies on toog and sigmund. Also i have a lot more nulls atm but overall i wouldn't disagree strongly with any of this list.

Currently unsure if agreeing makes titus town, i see titus being maybe overly aggressive and early-talker from what i remember from town!her. Still convinced that if she keeps this up she will alignment spew sooner or later so it's all good.

You said you roughly agree with this list aside from some specifics, but you also mentioned you had a lot more nulls.

Can you elaborate on those nulls, or specifically which reads you agreed with? You've put some additional reads down since you quoted this post, but I feel like there's still some data here that I'm missing.

[WhemeStar]

Bell do you have an S_S read?

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Wheme

You've expressed townreads of Toog and Titus. You've voted (in order) Farkran, Anya, notsci, and whitefire. (plus Bingle, but that looked like a sheep vote)

Did you change votes because you stopped scumreading the previous vote? because the next vote was a stronger scumread? because another wagon looked like it was stronger? Some other reason?

You said something about wanting to townread some players but fearing you'd be wrong(?). Who are the players you're concerned look town but might not be?

I like hopping my votes around to different people when I play. I don't have many strong scumreads yet at all though. Hopefully my votes/people voting me help me find stronger reads. I didn't like Farkrans iso so I voted him. Anya's posts just seemed like coasting/ LHF scum but apparently that's how they always post/play. WhiteFire is actually a scumread of mine because I think this is is how scum firebringer plays even though Im not totally experienced with scum fire. Players im concerned about are you/TSQ/Lady currently.

[Something_Smart]

Murdercat and tsq feel towny.

Artemiana the young goddess rolled over and died when we were scum together >:( but she's probably > rand town here.

[Something_Smart]

The more Titus posts things like this the more solid my scum reads becomes. Titus doesn't know who the scum are if she's town. So how can I defend them?

This kind of thing feels pretty consistent with town-Titus to me.

[Something_Smart]

Yeah, I was slayers gambiting as a D1 IC because I knew I could get away with it, but there was absolutely no way we were getting AI info out of that wagon at that point.

Bungle why

Wait were you required to reveal on D1?

[Anya]

I don't believe that this is a real read you have

Wha-

Why not?

can you finish this word it keeps me up at night wondering what it could have been

whale? whackiest? wham?

[Something_Smart]

-tever could you mean by this

[morph the cat]

Rolefishing is insightful?

I mean... it's not like it's subtle. Seemed like it was pretty obviously a rhetorical question, since presumably Sigmund isn't going to answer (and he shouldn't).

I don't think I've ever seen a post called all three of insightful, not subtle, and rhetorical before.

Could you explain some?

[Something_Smart]

Is there that much more to explain? Guillotina brought up a valid point that I hadn't thought of, and I would guess that a lot of other people hadn't thought about it either, because I'm usually pretty good about this stuff. Therefore it was insightful.

But also, because of the way it was phrased, it was a blatant request for role information from Sigmund. If it was a scum rolefishing tactic, it wasn't subtle. Since that's not a request town would generally make, I'm assuming it was probably a rhetorical question (the intent was to point out the possibility rather than actually expecting an answer).

[morph the cat]

Is there that much more to explain? Guillotina brought up a valid point that I hadn't thought of, and I would guess that a lot of other people hadn't thought about it either, because I'm usually pretty good about this stuff. Therefore it was insightful.

But also, because of the way it was phrased, it was a blatant request for role information from Sigmund. If it was a scum rolefishing tactic, it wasn't subtle. Since that's not a request town would generally make, I'm assuming it was probably a rhetorical question (the intent was to point out the possibility rather than actually expecting an answer).

What's your read of Guillo?

[Something_Smart]

This bugs me. The way it's phrased looks like it comes from someone who knows that Bell is town and is using him as reference to classify others.

Lmao. Probably slightly +town.

[Something_Smart]

What's your read of Guillo?

I swear I didn't read this when I made my last post

Somewhere north of null, I think. Not sure exactly where.

[Something_Smart]

I don't recall a ton from before my V/LA, and my reads are usually not good while in catchup mode. Take them with several grains of salt.

[morph the cat]

Bell do you have an S_S read?

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Wheme

You've expressed townreads of Toog and Titus. You've voted (in order) Farkran, Anya, notsci, and whitefire. (plus Bingle, but that looked like a sheep vote)

Did you change votes because you stopped scumreading the previous vote? because the next vote was a stronger scumread? because another wagon looked like it was stronger? Some other reason?

You said something about wanting to townread some players but fearing you'd be wrong(?). Who are the players you're concerned look town but might not be?

I like hopping my votes around to different people when I play. I don't have many strong scumreads yet at all though. Hopefully my votes/people voting me help me find stronger reads. I didn't like Farkrans iso so I voted him. Anya's posts just seemed like coasting/ LHF scum but apparently that's how they always post/play. WhiteFire is actually a scumread of mine because I think this is is how scum firebringer plays even though Im not totally experienced with scum fire. Players im concerned about are you/TSQ/Lady currently.

What did you dislike about Farkran's iso?

I'm not sure what the "this" is in FB's play.

So us/TSQ/LLD are paranoia reads? Are there specific things in our play that concern you?

It may feel like it, but I'm not trying to nitpick you to pieces here. I'm trying to get inside how you're processing the game.

[Something_Smart]

For the claim or for a different reason. At this point, I'm leaning towards early game claims are NAI for Toogeloo.

For the claim. Has Toogeloo D1 claimed as scum?