Mini Normal 2211 || Summer Meet [Endgame]

[humaneatingmonkey]

Fruit vendor gives a fruit to someone, to indicate they have visited them. usually, to clear and throw off trackers. but if the scum is multi-tasking, then it doesn't matter.

Hammer this Lemons. You can thank me later.

[humaneatingmonkey]

i feel like it doesn't make sense for the rolestopper's only utility to be in preventing an even-night friendly neighbour's target from receiving the message

the fruit vendor doesn't make sense either because there's no claimed tracker and the scum is multi-tasking.

[humaneatingmonkey]

but it's here, we have it, and there we go.

[InsidiousLemons]

fine. a useless fruit vendor does increase the chances of an equally useless rolestopper if the townside is as simple as mason pair + even-night FN. in a sense their utility is in their uselessness, by throwing off the town's attempts at solving by mechanics upon their flip. if the last game i played is any indication, the NRG certainly has a soft spot for setups that try to mitigate mechanical solves.

i don't think we're going to gain any new information on the others by leaving time for them to weigh in, and i agree that by play alone, VFP is more likely scum than not. here goes nothing.

[InsidiousLemons]

VOTE: VFP

[humaneatingmonkey]

Cook, tell us we won.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Cook, please don't break my heart.

[InsidiousLemons]

cook you better serve us up a hot batch of [Game Over!]

[humaneatingmonkey]

Oh fuck Lemons you're scum aren't you

[humaneatingmonkey]

If VFP flips TPR, tomorrow, if scum doesn't confirm either of us as masons by killing us, we have time to share our thoughts.

Otherwise, tomorrow, we will have 3 conftowns — Egix and two of these: {Anya, Ivyeo, Monkey}. If Egix doesn't die Night 4, he must be scum. We will sort between geraintm, Lemons, and Dunnstral. I think we can win it.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Anyway, see what I mean here. Even if VFP dies here, this is still winnable by a huge margin. Makes me think this is game over anyway.

[VFP]

So tomorrow flip Humam before Ivy encase Ivy is a traitor.
Then if actually a Mason, flip Egix and its over.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Flip Egix? Dunn confirms he's Friendly Neighbor. We'll flip Dunn first before Egix.

[VFP]

No Dunn would be a traitor if you're actually masons.

[humaneatingmonkey]

So you think 2 traitors 2 scum is the setup?

[humaneatingmonkey]

We are actually masons.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Nah you're fucking with us aren't you

[VFP]

I mean, you can go Dunn first, sure.
But there is never a PT cop, 2 masons and a FN.

There's also no suggestion here that anyone has even odd non con etc. The only other 1 to claim it was scum.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Egix is even-night.

[VFP]

So you think 2 traitors 2 scum is the setup?

I don't believe that town has this much power to a role stopper traitor.and a fruit vendor. Call me crazy.

[VFP]

Egix is even-night.

And if you're a Mason. They are lying.
The only other person to claim restrictions was Osuka, who was lying.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Like Lemons said, if it's 4 scum, then it's immediately Elo in Day 2 if there is never a PT cop, 2 masons and a FN. So if three scum exists and only one remains, Dunn can't be lying about Egix.

[humaneatingmonkey]

if there is never a PT cop, 2 masons and a FN

EBWOP: If there is

[VFP]

Like Lemons said, if it's 4 scum, then it's immediately Elo in Day 2 if there is never a PT cop, 2 masons and a FN. So if three scum exists and only one remains, Dunn can't be lying about Egix.

Then it's probably just you if Egix is FN.
What do you think scum have to only be 2.5 and town to have all of that?

[humaneatingmonkey]

But 4 scum with an FN that only confirms themselves on N2 when it's an ML on ELo is actually not a good game at all.