Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -

[White Fire]

ive also had a lack of engagement with hydra partner and the most we have gotten to communicate is agreeing titus = town

[Titus]

ive also had a lack of engagement with hydra partner and the most we have gotten to communicate is agreeing titus = town

Really? I am the sole read you both agree on?

[White Fire]

ive also had a lack of engagement with hydra partner and the most we have gotten to communicate is agreeing titus = town

Really? I am the sole read you both agree on?

its really the only one we have really talked about at all tbh.

[NDMath]

Debuff:
Toogeloo
NDmath
White Fire

What's this list based off of for you to immediately vote elsewhere?

[unwnd]

MOD EVENT

> You and your party members wander further into the stratum. The deeper you go, the more it reveals. What seemed like a dense forest has become almost like walking into a lost civilization. Your and your allies all gaze upon an abundance of ancient ruins. Glyphs on the walls tattered and indecipherable. Time has eroded this place. Did people live here? Nature has defaced this remnant of the past and ushered in anew. Yggdrasil remains just as fascinating as it was in folklore.

Votecount 1.8

Adventurers

:

WhemeStar [6]: Bingle, Farkran, NDMath, Sigmund, MURDERCAT, Anya
Sigmund [4]: Save the Dragons, Guillotina, Artemiana, Flea the Magician
Not_Mafia [3]: White Fire, Whemestar, Titus
MURDERCAT [2]: Bell, notscience
Ircher [1]: Chara
Dunnstral [1]: Flea the Magician
Flea the Magician [1]: Dunnstral
notscience [1]: Ircher
White Fire [1]: Thestatusquo
Save the Dragons [1]: Toogeloo


Not Voting [4]: Something_Smart, Not_Mafia, Lady Lambdadelta, morph the cat

With 23 alive it takes 13 to eliminate. Stratum 1 ends in (expired on 2021-06-04 22:25:25).

[Titus]

Fuck it.

VOTE: Not mafia

[Thestatusquo]

u know what. ill actually wont just be a dick to u.
shea, my only scumread nobody seems interested in pushing anymore re flea. My interest in talking about recent stuff is waned because alot of its just not that interesting to me.
in fact i don't think anything in last 20 or so pages has actually given me big movements on whats going on besides we had a lazy wagon on wheme for some reason that i don't actually care to try to figure out why it was a strong thing besides apathy and lack of consensus maybe

i want to yeet not mafia cause i think this is game mechanic that means something and i think it could be scum mechanic since no one is claiming it.

what exactly do u want me to participate in

This is a really genuine sounding post.

VOTE: unvote

[Titus]

I wasn't voting not mafia before but let's make that mod vc psychic.

[White Fire]

@mod do i have 2 votes now?!

Mod error.

[Ircher]

MURDERCAT's posting a few pages ago felt a bit weak, but I'm not certain that corresponds with him being scum. I'll be back tomorrow with more content.

[Sigmund]

Sigmund [4]: Save the Dragons, Guillotina, Artemiana, Flea the Magician

this looks like the cast of The Usual Suspects

[Sigmund]

Maybe Not Mafia is an NPC who will auto-hammer anyone who gets to L-1

[morph the cat]

I like the way you think.

That would be pretty damn funny.

[White Fire]

oog I don't have internet until thursday. pls pity me. i was not meant to live like this.

There there, nobody is but it will pass

~Shiro

[Bingle]

I uh... Let this fall by the wayside the last two days. I promise I will read the game again start to finish to give all of the insight I can, but I don't think "sheep Bingle" has ever or will ever be the best D1 strategy. I fully understand I might have to throw my weight onto something strongly to get a wagon to claim space without running into deadline though, so I'll probably endorse something as my choice tomorrow after I read. If anyone has questions or wants me to pay special attention to something, feel free to bold an @ at me with a post number.

Solely from looking at the last VC, I'm surprised that Ircher doesn't have more votes. I don't truly dislike any of the wagons, but neither Wheme nor Sigmund have particularly promising composition. N_M wagon is pretty alright from page 50 reads, wouldn't mind seeing more MC pressure in the future but that's probably not something we have time for today.

[Toogeloo]

Trying to eliminate Not Mafia seems pretty dumb tbqh. Should we make them claim?

Like what's the difference between a Not Mafia death and a policy death in this game? Voting Not Mafia is an easy place to park a vote of no substance, all so we can "test" it and see if it's a game mechanic?

The mod cannot lie to us, and last I checked, there were still 17 town and 6 mafia aligned players based on the set up. So eliminating Not Mafia does pretty much nothing in the way of solving who's who.

If anything, I think it's a mechanic designed to punish town for being lazy. We get rid of our greatest weapon, the daily execution, and do nothing with it.

[Bingle]

^I endorse the sentiment.

[Farkran]

I'm back

I skimmed the last pages and i came to believe whemestar could be town, probably he was lost earlier and now he got a better grasp of the gamestate? Makes sense

Which makes me disappointed because the wagon was good and i don't understand people who said it wasn't. Bingle (ofc), shea, sigmund are all town to me + i am town, ndmath didn't make a huge impression to me but doesn't sound like scum. Murdercat maybe? But even if he is, 1 scum bussing out of 6 doesn't make it a bad wagon imo. @bell @morph explain why the wagon was bad please?

[Farkran]

I could vote murdercat or savethedragon for reasons

Also i dislike all the not mafia mechanics in place. If the mod did not lie, and the event does not make sense, i think the most likely explanation is that it's a player made event, i.e. if anyone has a power like "day power: spend 2 sp, create a fake event in game" they could have made this

And it's not useful in any way that i could think of, so my opinion on it is that it's trolling at best, scumfueled at worst.

[Dunnstral]

Dunnra Kai who’s scum

I am not the right person to ask at this point

My thoughts were that I had a few people as town and towny, but not a lo tof scum leans, but I wasn' quick to assume that everyone who wasn't posting was scum

[Dunnstral]

Dunn scumread - Specifically the mastina vote didn't make sense from a logical standpoint and 402 is a poor reaction.

Was I right or not?

You were wrong? I feel like I'm misunderstanding something for that to be a question.

Thinking about it, my reason did end up being wrong, but I wasn't far off - it looks like mastina missed this information because her role pm was just too long due to being 3rd party

I disagree that it didn't make sense, it was clear that the game wouldn't start until everyone confirmed, and that you needed to post in discord to confirm. I was thinking maybe the scum chat that would be in a normal pt (?) would suffice as confirmation and that nobody talked about discord communications

I townread each of guillo and shea now.

Dragons repeated mention of hp also feels town.

This is a pretty bad reason to townread somebody. Dragons wasn't even the one who outted this info initially.

[Dunnstral]

Dunnra Kai who’s scum

I am not the right person to ask at this point

My thoughts were that I had a few people as town and towny, but not a lo tof scum leans, but I wasn' quick to assume that everyone who wasn't posting was scum

I think flea is/was scummy for the whole "any wagon is great, even if it's on me" thing

[Dunnstral]

I did not take hp from anyone N0.

Whats clear is that someone in this game has an ability to debuff other players in some way shape or form.

Instead of talking about who it is, we could probably put a leash on by having everyone give top 2-3 players that should be debuffed thus limiting the debuffers options.

Also wheres the flareon? I might have been to quick to give him rock dtatus

Debuff:
Toogeloo
NDmath
White Fire

I don't really understand the context behind these posts, how is it clear that somebody has an ability to debuff? (It's very possible I missed this)

I don't believe that this is a real read you have

Wha-

Why not?

Because thinking that scum would put 271 in their scum pt instead is ridiculous

Speaking of the not_mafia, my guess is that it's a double voter that somebody got to name; voting them is almost certainly a waste of guillotines, even if it were a scum double vote

[Dunnstral]

If you guys want, we can try to kill it with hp damage

[Anya]

Bell do you have an S_S read?

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Wheme

You've expressed townreads of Toog and Titus. You've voted (in order) Farkran, Anya, notsci, and whitefire. (plus Bingle, but that looked like a sheep vote)

Did you change votes because you stopped scumreading the previous vote? because the next vote was a stronger scumread? because another wagon looked like it was stronger? Some other reason?

You said something about wanting to townread some players but fearing you'd be wrong(?). Who are the players you're concerned look town but might not be?

I like hopping my votes around to different people when I play. I don't have many strong scumreads yet at all though. Hopefully my votes/people voting me help me find stronger reads. I didn't like Farkrans iso so I voted him. Anya's posts just seemed like coasting/ LHF scum but apparently that's how they always post/play. WhiteFire is actually a scumread of mine because I think this is is how scum firebringer plays even though Im not totally experienced with scum fire. Players im concerned about are you/TSQ/Lady currently.

What did you dislike about Farkran's iso?

I'm not sure what the "this" is in FB's play.

So us/TSQ/LLD are paranoia reads? Are there specific things in our play that concern you?

It may feel like it, but I'm not trying to nitpick you to pieces here. I'm trying to get inside how you're processing the game.

At the time when I voted farkran it looked too me like he was just trying to throw out soft reads and didn't really want to commit to anything. Like he didn't want to try scum hunting. Thinking back on it now though I can see reasons on why you wouldn't want to scumhunt as some people try to townhunt day 1 and then use poe for following days but I don't know how he plays.

Im paranoid of you because I respect your guys's game. I can't help but think you guys are playing similar to when I was mafia with you even though I think youre town here. I think im just scared that your mafia game is good that you can make me think your town easily but maybe I have the wrong idea on your game because you guys got caught pretty early by Pooky in the abandoned one.

TSQ I think spews town currently but others think hes scum for some reason. Ive had previous games with him im pretty sure but nothing I can remember about his play. Theres nothing in this game of his that sticks out to me as being scummy but others seem to think so? Maybe they have more experience with him im not sure.

LLD I think gets super emotional and I just townread people for that. I haven't checked yet but I THINK they also do as scum so its something im a little worried about but I just end up townreading emotional people. (Not AtE emotion but angry emotion)

you should've just said so why wasn't this your first post on page 1

don't let the stars in your eyes fade

VOTE: Flea Magic