Mini Normal 2213 - Village (End Game)

[Andresvmb]

Well that’s a hard guilty so we execute it.

VOTE: FMFT

[VFP]

VOTE: FMFT

[Andresvmb]

And yeah, I do think Gamma is just Scum.

[VFP]

I guess that's why Gamma isn't fun this game!

[MaxTheFox]

VFP is my current SR. He is very jumpy and his posts just seem gross to me.

How is this a better vote than FTSP who has spewed a bunch of nonsense about other roles that no town role would know?

Why would there be a town informed who knows that gamma is a cop enabler, and that there's a follower in the game? The role doesn't make sense as a town role, plus FTSP is voting for VFP too

VFP feels even worse to me, after this I'm fine with voting FMFT too. Assuming that's who you mean by FTSP.

[VFP]

VFP feels even worse to me, after this I'm fine with voting FMFT too. Assuming that's who you mean by FTSP.

This is still scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: FMFT
Well that explains Dunnstral’s lurking at least

[ItalianoVD]

Alright I have info that I'm ready to out: I have the role of backup lazy cop. So, when rtlotus died I became a lazy cop; I checked Free Money Free Tea and he is indeed mafia

Ok cool

VOTE: Free money

[Dunnstral]

Votecount

VFP [3]:

MaxTheFox, Gamma Emerald, ssbm_Kyouko

Free Money Free Tea [2]:

Dunnstral, Save The Dragons

JohnnyFarrar[1]:

ItalianoVD

Noraa [1]:

VFP

Not Voting: Noraa, Free Money Free Tea, JohnnyFarrar, Andresvmb

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to reach majority.

The day will end in (expired on 2021-06-05 19:44:00) or when majority is reached.

VOTE: Nora

VOTE: VFP

[Gamma Emerald]

Despite a member of the mafia knowing his role he didn't die, even though there weren't any other pr targets

I can’t really hard-counter any of the other points, but this falls flat with the fact that by FMFT’s own admission, they received my role info as a night result last night, making it not actionable that night.

[Dunnstral]

Despite a member of the mafia knowing his role he didn't die, even though there weren't any other pr targets

I can’t really hard-counter any of the other points, but this falls flat with the fact that by FMFT’s own admission, they received my role info as a night result last night, making it not actionable that night.

Maybe so, depends on flip

[ItalianoVD]

That’s hammer isn’t it

[Gamma Emerald]

True
If FMFT flips as claimed I probably am not in a great spot
But atp I’m anticipating the true flip just about clearing me

[MaxTheFox]

VFP feels even worse to me, after this I'm fine with voting FMFT too. Assuming that's who you mean by FTSP.

This is still scum.

Keep OMGUSing bro.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, since it’s already known by scum, the other part of my role is follower enabler
As such there’s not hard proof that follower exists FMPOV, but given a role with two different potential follower results flipped, it seems possible

[ItalianoVD]

I don’t think all of them are scum (ssbm, free tea, and gamma), but I don’t think they’re all town either. I’m still trying to feel out what partnership would make the most sense to me. Gamma/ssbm, ssbm/free, or Gamma/free. Then I have to see which partnership makes the most sense to have Johnny in there with them.

I spotted two assumptions in this. Can you explain why you are making them?

Umm, you’re gonna have to explain cause I’m not sure what you mean.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Well this is a fine good morning

[Dunnstral]

Follower feels like a scum role in this setup
Could reconsider Gamma
Max doesn't feel genuine with the Vfp push right now
I assume I'm dying anyway

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t think all of them are scum (ssbm, free tea, and gamma), but I don’t think they’re all town either. I’m still trying to feel out what partnership would make the most sense to me. Gamma/ssbm, ssbm/free, or Gamma/free. Then I have to see which partnership makes the most sense to have Johnny in there with them.

I spotted two assumptions in this. Can you explain why you are making them?

Umm, you’re gonna have to explain cause I’m not sure what you mean.

2 scum in (me, FMFT, ssbm)
Johnny being scum

@Dunnstral I think scum follower is less likely if FMFT flips as an ungated version of what I think he will

Also I’d really like VFP to tell me how the fuck they know me because circumstantial evidence points to them potentially being someone I have sworn to destroy.

[Noraa]

Ok so I just checked in and saw a shit ton of votes. idk if there's already a hammer but I'm not going into the night having said nothing.

I just look at every MaxtheFox post and wonder, how is this town?

I actually agree with this tbh

I need more explanations behind these VFP scumreads

If Max is scum, I will believe that VFP is town. Otherwise I think VFP is scum because he's not trying in the slightest to act town. He clearly doesn't SR me. Then why vote me?

Alright I have info that I'm ready to out: I have the role of backupVOTE: lazy cop. So, when rtlotus died I became a lazy cop; I checked Free Money Free Tea and he is indeed mafia

The lazy modifier means that if there is only 1 mafia remaining, I can't use my ability

Gamma is probably mafia as well from multiple angles:
-Town enabler runs contrary to the design goals of town backup
-The above is compounded upon by mafia knowing of a cop enabler on night 1, which should certainly render my role useless under normal circumstances
-Despite a member of the mafia knowing his role he didn't die, even though there weren't any other pr targets
-My role is already gated by the lazy modifier
-The way FMFT and Gamma are playing around each other today
-The way Gamma is being super dodgy with his claim
-The rest of their play isn't great anyway

Now, if anybody else has backed up the jailkeeper, which seems moderately likely to me, I'd put serious consideration into jailkeeping me, regardless of the roleblock

Wow ok Dunn is lock town. This post is very towny VOTE: FMFT and I'm also down to vote gamma tomorrow.
Doc, JK, whatever. All on Dunn tonight.

[Noraa]

Max doesn't feel genuine with the Vfp push right now

Awesome we're on the same page. We should lim Max or Gamma tmrw.

[JohnnyFarrar]

You think a pre outed fmft busses vfp like that?

[Noraa]

2 scum in (me, FMFT, ssbm)
Johnny being scum

no. nah. no.
Johnny is probably just town here. The game's already been cracked in half by Dunn.

[Noraa]

You think a pre outed fmft busses vfp like that?

Why not? FMFT is barely doing anything so that wouldn't surprise me?
Also like I'm 100% sure {VFP, Maxthefox} has scum. Their interactions aren't natural. One of them has to be scum. There is literally like no other explanation.

[samantha97]

Final Votecount

Free Money Free Tea [6]:

Dunnstral, Save The Dragons, ssbm_Kyouko, Andresvmb, VFP, Gamma Emerald

VFP [2]:

MaxTheFox, Free Money Free Tea

JohnnyFarrar[1]:

ItalianoVD

Not Voting: Noraa, JohnnyFarrar