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[osuka]

@all i'm going to catch up after work today, be back in a few hours

i'm confident vfp is just following me. how are your juicers, vfp

[VFP]

What can I say, I'm starting to warm up to you.

Also, am I in a position to coast day 1 or no?

[Nero Cain]

we could just lynch you if you didn't feel like playing

[Anya]

hope you're ready for another wolf game dolphin do a backflip this time

[VFP]

we could just lynch you if you didn't feel like playing

That's the spirit!

[Dwlee99]

Nero, how strongly do you feel about peta!scum?

[Nero Cain]

I could always be wrong but I feel p strongly so lets say 70/30

[Nero Cain]

we could just lynch you if you didn't feel like playing

That's the spirit!

like, I don't really understand why you'd join a game with the intention to not play unless you landed scum and lurking/coasting helps your faction.

[T3]

VFP had a similar opening line to summer meet, where they were scum.

[VFP]

like, I don't really understand why you'd join a game with the intention to not play unless you landed scum and lurking/coasting helps your faction.

It was more of a joke at Osuka. He doesn't like me saying that.
If you gave me more than 8 minutes to read the game that would be useful.

But I have now.
And I still don't understand how Dwlee is the leading wagon.

Your post 74 I agree with but not so much seeing anything else that seems bad.

So someone explain to me like I'm 5 why Dwlee or Peter Pan are a good choice here?

[VFP]

So I'm not sure how I feel on Titus or T3 as of yet but neither are sprouting town for me.
Anya maybe, but there's by far not enough to go by yet.

[Nero Cain]

VFP had a similar opening line to summer meet, where they were scum.

true but does he do that with players that were also in that game? It's all WIFOM I guess

[VFP]

DGB is probably town minded with the opening post.

I was in a game a while back where town claims just ended up getting DGB as a PR marked as the prime lim. So if its happened again recently I can see town DGB thinking this (given how it reacted in the game I was in too).
I'm not sure what scum DGB gains with that post.

[T3]

like, I don't really understand why you'd join a game with the intention to not play unless you landed scum and lurking/coasting helps your faction.

It was more of a joke at Osuka. He doesn't like me saying that.
If you gave me more than 8 minutes to read the game that would be useful.

But I have now.
And I still don't understand how Dwlee is the leading wagon.

Your post 74 I agree with but not so much seeing anything else that seems bad.

So someone explain to me like I'm 5 why Dwlee or Peter Pan are a good choice here?

DGB: theory
Dwelee: no
peta: anyone who denies the theory is scum x10000
people: vote

[VFP]

DGB: theory
Dwelee: no
peta: anyone who denies the theory is scum x10000
people: vote

I don't read it that Dwlee is scum for denying DGB's theory.
Can you point to where I'm wrong?

[T3]

DGB: theory
Dwelee: no
peta: anyone who denies the theory is scum x10000
people: vote

I don't read it that Dwlee is scum for denying DGB's theory.
Can you point to where I'm wrong?

Dweleeis somehow scum for trying to wriggle out of a lim by fake claiming pr.

[Nero Cain]

I'm not sure what scum DGB gains with that post.

well, most people are town reading DGB for it so a scum DGB could post that for town cred but the question is would scum make the risk of pushing an anti-town stance that no one in their right minds would agree with. eh, prob not. its p risky but I'm not of petas opinion where DGB would never ever in a million years post that as scum b/c I think scum absolutely could but I think occams says its prob just town that is frustrated.

[VFP]

nevermind that i was the first one to engage dwlee and call him scum, my point is way less baking up dgb and ore that the way dwlee chose to engage and turn things into a pedantic argument about how not to play where he could make an "ideal" theoretical point about how "we shouldn't play it like mountainous" that glosses over what dgb is actually trying to say (we should emphasize dayplay and minimize decisions based on mechanical speculation, basic stuff). in the process he steers the conversation toward something non-game-advancing, that is, arguing about "well of course you should consider claims in a normal setup". and when i immediately jump him after that he responds not like someone who has genuine conviction in what he's arguing but cornered scum who doesn't know how to react

This doesn't read like someone who's unhappy at Dwlee for not following DGB's plan. It seems to be more about how it was shut down and the reaction Dwlee given. I'm not saying I agree, but let's not read a story here.
Peta can explain some thought process into this and why Dwlee is scum here.

[VFP]

DGB: theory
Dwelee: no
peta: anyone who denies the theory is scum x10000
people: vote

I don't read it that Dwlee is scum for denying DGB's theory.
Can you point to where I'm wrong?

Dweleeis somehow scum for trying to wriggle out of a lim by fake claiming pr.

Maybe I'm just dumb here, but I still don't see it?

[Dwlee99]

I could always be wrong but I feel p strongly so lets say 70/30

Do you townread rathe?

DGB: theory
Dwelee: no
peta: anyone who denies the theory is scum x10000
people: vote

I don't read it that Dwlee is scum for denying DGB's theory.
Can you point to where I'm wrong?

Dweleeis somehow scum for trying to wriggle out of a lim by fake claiming pr.

Maybe I'm just dumb here, but I still don't see it?

T3 is being sarcastic. Titus floated the idea that I was scum planning to use a claim to coast through the strong playerlist and that was why I was opposed to DGB's plan.

[VFP]

I'm not sure what scum DGB gains with that post.

well, most people are town reading DGB for it so a scum DGB could post that for town cred but the question is would scum make the risk of pushing an anti-town stance that no one in their right minds would agree with. eh, prob not. its p risky but I'm not of petas opinion where DGB would never ever in a million years post that as scum b/c I think scum absolutely could but I think occams says its prob just town that is frustrated.

Yeah I guess there is something to gain and this explains better than what I was saying and on a better track.

[Nero Cain]

Dweleeis somehow scum for trying to wriggle out of a lim by fake claiming pr.

this is what Titus said. Peta is basically arguing that he's being

LAMIST

but avoiding using the buzzword. He thinks it's such a simple thing for a scum to denouce that he has to be scum. nevermind that town would absolutely do the same thing.

[VFP]

T3 is being sarcastic. Titus floated the idea that I was scum planning to use a claim to coast through the strong playerlist and that was why I was opposed to DGB's plan.

Ah okay, so that's irrelevant then as DGB's idea will never follow through in a large anyway.
Once people are under the light, things just change, and I doubt this being your worry.

So why is Peta scum for you?

[Nero Cain]

I don't think Rathe is super scummy or anything. My only slight issue is that they are so willing to sheep and absolve themselves of all blame. Also, and I know its a bit rude but if Rathe is set on sheeping there are better people to sheep than DGB.

At any rate, rathe is down my totem pole a bit and I feel like there are better lynches out there.

[Dwlee99]

Peta claimed to have "important setup info" then walked it back to "mod meta." The push on me that he has made is also terribad and I feel like he has failed to engage with me in a way that town would (as in, he acts like he has the game solved and doesn't even want to consider he could be wrong).