Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -

[Chara]

can you provide an example of where his posts are advancing the game

898 for example, but his whole approach really

It rings to me as if he wants to have people talk more, take stances and produce reads. Unless Sigmund is known for doing this as scum, that's how i interpret his activity here

898 was just a list of the players who weren't voting at the time, weren't they?

it's prodding those players to take stances but i wouldn't characterize his whole play as being that way.

[Thestatusquo]

i quoted it very recently in my ISO. why do you think she's scum?

pedit: will read it.

this last page is horrible.

FTFY

I thought my post on titus was good. Particularly I think its something that people are ignoring, town!titus seems like the least likely person on perhaps the entire site to join a wagon on a player who may or may not be in the game and I tend to think its kind of a big deal especially as she calls out the lack of wagons that she supposedly needs sthat she is doing nothing to create them herself.

I backed off of titus because a lot of people were town reading her and I figured there must be something there that I must be missing from lack of as much experience but honestly I'm starting to feel like I was wrong about that.

Your read was one of the primary reasons I backed off but I don't understand how her play this game matches what you're describing as town!titus.

How in the world do you have a good idea of how Titus plays Mafia when I've played with her over 10 times now and I still have no fucking clue what I'm looking at half the time.

i mean i've been playing mafia with her for like 5 years. she has a nonstandard playstyle. i know generally how she tends to behave and a trait of scum her is either making herself more "palatable" or obfuscating her methods she's harder to discredit. Titus can correct me here, maybe it's changed.

Wait, is Fakran your brother or sister Chara?

neither. we were partners in Undertale S as Chara and Asriel, they are siblings in flavour, so we occasionally address each other as such. my signature is from the flavour.

This quote in particular seems to be exactly what is happening this game so I'm wondering where we're disconnecting here and what she's doing that make you think shes not "making herself more palatable.

[Chara]

STD and Sigmund don't feel theatrey to me. STD's vote was there previously and the annoyance was spawned by Fark calling Sigmund town in a way i don't really agree with either.

[Thestatusquo]

can you provide an example of where his posts are advancing the game

898 for example, but his whole approach really

It rings to me as if he wants to have people talk more, take stances and produce reads. Unless Sigmund is known for doing this as scum, that's how i interpret his activity here

898 was just a list of the players who weren't voting at the time, weren't they?

it's prodding those players to take stances but i wouldn't characterize his whole play as being that way.

I think its actually pretty unlikely a town player puts N_M on that list.

[Save The Dragons]

Sigmund and STD fighting feels weird as hell.

I agreeeeeeeee.

It feels theatery.

why did you originally only call out sigmund

[Thestatusquo]

Sigmund and STD fighting feels weird as hell.

I agreeeeeeeee.

It feels theatery.

why did you originally only call out sigmund

idk. I'm on my phone from lack of internet and posting is annoying so I tend to do it in short bursts. I have voiced my concern about STD in other places already.

[Save The Dragons]

if sigmund flips red i bet shea is red too

[Thestatusquo]

Sigmund and STD fighting feels weird as hell.

I agreeeeeeeee.

It feels theatery.

why did you originally only call out sigmund

This is a weird post for STD to make. The implications of the calling out one but not the other would be that I could potentially be buddies with the one I didn't call out. STD should presumably know that's not true so it's interesting that he is calling this out here.

[Thestatusquo]

Ah I see you're making the opposite argument.

I think that one makes significantly less sense.

[Chara]

1771 makes a good point i should probably look into. i did get the feeling she was being a lot more... "agreeable", which isn't to imply town Titus can't also be agreeable, but i didn't love the post where she says she enjoyed my analysis + found it accurate but also worried i was buddying her. i mean i think if someone correctly points out your scum methodology and then says you aren't doing that here, are you going to go straight to buddying when the analysis is apparently correct to your play? it felt kind of like she wanted to communicate a sense of paranoia without having one.

but there was definitely stuff in her earlier play that townpinged so i will look into that when i get the energy.

[Chara]

I think its actually pretty unlikely a town player puts N_M on that list.

i mean it was copy/pasted from the not-voting players, i'm not sure NM's inclusion or not

specifically

is AI given i think Sigmund just didn't care enough to bother erasing him.

but that is also pretty semantic when i find the post kind of rote to begin with.

[Something_Smart]

if sigmund flips red i bet shea is red too

You don't think Sigmund acts the way he did toward tsq if tsq is town? or what

[Chara]

i'd be okay voting Sigmund rn but i like my vote where it is. going through Titus's play again is on my to-do.

apologies for how low-energy i am right now.

[Thestatusquo]

i'd be okay voting Sigmund rn but i like my vote where it is. going through Titus's play again is on my to-do.

apologies for how low-energy i am right now.

I appreciate you as a human. Take care of yourself.

[Farkran]

STD and Sigmund don't feel theatrey to me. STD's vote was there previously and the annoyance was spawned by Fark calling Sigmund town in a way i don't really agree with either.

I also think it's not theatrey, as in they aren't s/s but why not t/s? Let's talk about it when you (and others) have time, sigmund seems to be the hot topic currently

But why is STD town in this scenario? Regardless of sigmund alignment, i mean. They could also be t/t, i'd just like to understand why we are assuming that if they are t/s, the scum part falls on Sigmund.

[Bingle]

Townreads

23. Bingle

2. Dunnstral - 331 feels distinctly not scum, very active/protown for a Dunn game.

4. White Fire (Shiro/Firebringer)
20. Thestatusquo
5. Lady Lambdadelta

9. Titus
22. Farkran

15. Anya - Towny overall, but strong pockety vibes. Made less worrisome because pockety vibes started before IC reveal, but I was softing pretty hard.
1. Morph the Cat (fferyllt/Cabd) - ^same, slightly stronger incentive to try pocketing me b/c experience with me.

14. notscience
17. Toogeloo

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Explicitly not townreads

10. Bell
12. NDMath
18. Flea the Magician
13. WhemeStar - Would be lowered by one tier, but circumstantially was the subject of a shit wagon.

19. Chara - Actually really didn't like it's interactions with Shea and FB early game on reread. Has been towny-er since, but definitely not ubertown.
21. MURDERCAT - Hasn't left an impression, easy stances. Absolutely needs pressure when we're not close to a deadline.
24. Something_Smart - ^

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Would consider limmable today:

16. Guillotina
8. Sigmund
3. Save the Dragons

7. Artemiana
6. Ircher - mostly lack of presence and a really bad ISO from JJH.

VOTE: Ircher

[Bingle]

Does Anya have a notable preference on alignment? She seems very comfortable/relaxed this game and is probably only scum if she likes being scum or has a really strong team.

[Guillotina]

I also think it's not theatrey, as in they aren't s/s but why not t/s?

Excuse me?

[White Fire]

VOTE: Artemiana

Bungle I think ur read on bingle is way off and ur probably pocketed

[White Fire]

Trying to eliminate Not Mafia seems pretty dumb tbqh. Should we make them claim?

I disagree with this so much but I don’t have energy to waste time on arguing about speculation

[Guillotina]

Townreads

23. Bingle

2. Dunnstral - 331 feels distinctly not scum, very active/protown for a Dunn game.

4. White Fire (Shiro/Firebringer)
20. Thestatusquo
5. Lady Lambdadelta

9. Titus
22. Farkran

15. Anya - Towny overall, but strong pockety vibes. Made less worrisome because pockety vibes started before IC reveal, but I was softing pretty hard.
1. Morph the Cat (fferyllt/Cabd) - ^same, slightly stronger incentive to try pocketing me b/c experience with me.

14. notscience
17. Toogeloo

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Explicitly not townreads

10. Bell
12. NDMath
18. Flea the Magician
13. WhemeStar - Would be lowered by one tier, but circumstantially was the subject of a shit wagon.

19. Chara - Actually really didn't like it's interactions with Shea and FB early game on reread. Has been towny-er since, but definitely not ubertown.
21. MURDERCAT - Hasn't left an impression, easy stances. Absolutely needs pressure when we're not close to a deadline.
24. Something_Smart - ^

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Would consider limmable today:

16. Guillotina
8. Sigmund
3. Save the Dragons

7. Artemiana
6. Ircher - mostly lack of presence and a really bad ISO from JJH.

VOTE: Ircher

Look, you can be inno child all you want but if you are gonna put me in the PoE today along with Sigmund, you are gonna have to explain to me in what world I catch my teammate's TMI early D1 and push for his yeet all day.

I'll wait.

[Bingle]

VOTE: Artemiana

Bungle I think ur read on bingle is way off and ur probably pocketed

Oh, shit you're right, that reads list is upside down.

[White Fire]

VOTE: Artemiana

Bungle I think ur read on bingle is way off and ur probably pocketed

Oh, shit you're right, that reads list is upside down.

Good work.
So ircher for president eh? Not my first choice but alright

[Guillotina]

Now that I'm back home, it's time to get in my favorite mode.

[White Fire]

Look, you can be inno child all you want

I laughed very hard at this. Thank u guilotina