Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -

[Guillotina]

I hate to say that im a vengeful person, but sometimes i can be

This looks like a soft.

[Thestatusquo]

Artemana has dropped at least 3 posts that I think could be softs but also STOP POINTING THEM OUT.

[Titus]

I hate to say that im a vengeful person, but sometimes i can be

This looks like a soft.

Then let her venge me. Look at the wiki. Always lim a vengeful claim.

[Guillotina]

I think she could be scum, but she's also a player who talks a lot and will be sorted at some point no matter what

Farkran is scum here. Townies don't scum read someone but considers the idea of letting them live longer just because the player's meta is that they talk a lot.
I'm undecided on whether this looks like a save or a pocket.

[Guillotina]

Artemana has dropped at least 3 posts that I think could be softs but also STOP POINTING THEM OUT.

LOL, No. Make better softs! Do you know how your soft is a decent one? When I dont catch them.

[Anya]

I hate to say that im a vengeful person, but sometimes i can be

This looks like a soft.

Then let her venge me. Look at the wiki. Always lim a vengeful claim.

strange that you say you she's not even voting to throw you in the cauldron did you forget to conceal the battle scars today?

[Guillotina]

What's the case on Artemiana, I don't see it.

If someone already posted a case, can I get a POSTNUM please?

[Bingle]

Would consider limmable today:

16. Guillotina
8. Sigmund
3. Save the Dragons

7. Artemiana
6. Ircher - mostly lack of presence and a really bad ISO from JJH.

VOTE: Ircher

Perhaps there is a misinterpretation issue.

To me, only this segment is what I consider your PoE, which implies process of elimination list. The entire list I would just call it your readlist.

That is the segment of people I would consider voting to eliminate in the roughly 3 days we have left of the dayphase. Of those 5 you are the one I think is least likely to flip scum. The bottom two tiers are both groups of people I would be unsurprised to see flip scum, but the middle tier is difficult to quantify in relation to the bottom tier as the concerns in reading them are very different. If I were to label the group you were in individually it would be "Maybe scum? Interested to see how people react." while the bottom group of the middle tier would be "Maybe scum? Needs to be beaten with a stick to see if alignment indicative posts fall out." and the top tier of the middle list would be "Fuck if I know."

With that said, your indignation has come across as fairly town and I'd probably put a line break between you and Sigmund now, although I still think you're completely on the table as an elimination.

[Artemiana]

I can't mess around with the HP of other people

[Bingle]

I have a lot of disagreement with this, mostly in the "explicitly not town reads" section and obviously my thoughts about titus I've said a lot.

But I have pretty close to the exact same lim pool at the bottom.

I was aware of this when I posted the list, and also this is a large portion of the reason that you're as high on the list as you are, FWIW.

[Artemiana]

Theres an opportunity to leash the debuffer so im curious to why no one is capitalizing on it.

It would be obvious if a non-consensus person was debuffed because I doubt people would keep it quiet

[Guillotina]

VOTE: Ircher

[Thestatusquo]

Theres an opportunity to leash the debuffer so im curious to why no one is capitalizing on it.

It would be obvious if a non-consensus person was debuffed because I doubt people would keep it quiet

what?

[Artemiana]

Murdercat and tsq feel towny.

Artemiana the young goddess rolled over and died when we were scum together >:( but she's probably > rand town here.

I was hard CC'd not my fault!

[Artemiana]

I did not take hp from anyone N0.

Whats clear is that someone in this game has an ability to debuff other players in some way shape or form.

Instead of talking about who it is, we could probably put a leash on by having everyone give top 2-3 players that should be debuffed thus limiting the debuffers options.

Also wheres the flareon? I might have been to quick to give him rock dtatus

Debuff:
Toogeloo
NDmath
White Fire

[Thestatusquo]

I think she could be scum, but she's also a player who talks a lot and will be sorted at some point no matter what

Farkran is scum here. Townies don't scum read someone but considers the idea of letting them live longer just because the player's meta is that they talk a lot.
I'm undecided on whether this looks like a save or a pocket.

this is another nonsensical take.

[Guillotina]

I think she could be scum, but she's also a player who talks a lot and will be sorted at some point no matter what

Farkran is scum here. Townies don't scum read someone but considers the idea of letting them live longer just because the player's meta is that they talk a lot.
I'm undecided on whether this looks like a save or a pocket.

this is another nonsensical take.

How so?

[Bingle]

Do you think townies would just target someone to harm them without any information whatsoever during N0?

Yes.

In fact, had I been given the role "You may do x damage to a player at night." I would have probably used it on N0 as town, simply because town knowing roles like that exist is + value and I would explicitly not want to claim, although I probably wouldn't have targeted morph. I may also have chosen to not use the ability but claim it had been done to me. All this is assuming both that I didn't have another ability to use that precluded it's use and that my ability didn't come with some special caveat like "you do x damage to a person and then they heal X+2 at the beginning of the following night" or "You do x damage to a person if they're town" or "You do x damage to a person and then learn their alignment" all of which are plausible explanations for why morph might have been targeted specifically.

I truly do think that exploring the X damage to morph angle today is pretty bleh.

[Guillotina]

If I scum read you I want you dead, right now.

See these three?

VOTE: Sigmund
VOTE: Farkran
VOTE: Ircher

I want them dead today. Unfortunately we can only yeet one today and that is the only reason I'm the other two extra days.

[Thestatusquo]

townies say and do things like that literally all the time. It's incredibly common. I could probably spend 10 seconds looking at past farkran games and find him making basically identical posts as town.

It's not even enough for a vague scum lean and somehow you think it lock scums him. It's utter nonsense. Almost all of your takes are like this, just lacking in basic understanding of a) how the game of mafia works and b) what things tend to come from scum or town.

Honestly at this point it makes me want to town read you but I just really wish you had some baseline understanding of what you're talking about.

[Artemiana]

so is the not mafia in playerlist a mechanic in game.
if so i want to see what it does

VOTE: Not mafia

I think cabd should defintely talk about this, i got a flashback from one of my own games here.

[Guillotina]

Do you think townies would just target someone to harm them without any information whatsoever during N0?

Yes.

In fact, had I been given the role "You may do x damage to a player at night." I would have probably used it on N0 as town, simply because town knowing roles like that exist is + value and I would explicitly not want to claim, although I probably wouldn't have targeted morph. I may also have chosen to not use the ability but claim it had been done to me. All this is assuming both that I didn't have another ability to use that precluded it's use and that my ability didn't come with some special caveat like "you do x damage to a person and then they heal X+2 at the beginning of the following night" or "You do x damage to a person if they're town" or "You do x damage to a person and then learn their alignment" all of which are plausible explanations for why morph might have been targeted specifically.

I truly do think that exploring the X damage to morph angle today is pretty bleh.

I stopped at "Yes"

That crap is outright game throwing.

[Bingle]

How so?

Well for one that's literally what I did with the middle tier of my reads list:

"I think these people could maybe flip scum but I'm not really interested in limming them today."

[Titus]

Theres an opportunity to leash the debuffer so im curious to why no one is capitalizing on it.

It would be obvious if a non-consensus person was debuffed because I doubt people would keep it quiet

Probably because there are a lot of debuffers in the game.

[Bingle]

I stopped at "Yes"

That crap is outright game throwing.

It's < vigging N0, which was a pretty large point of contention on whether you should do it around the time I joined ms.