Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -

[Save The Dragons]

why is that scummy and not something a pr would do

Depends on the player and we haven't actually played together that much, so you would have to tell me.
Why are you doing it?

i think i gave you a hint there

[Thestatusquo]

I think I'm skeptical of PR in this setup as a defense for play (and in terms of claims) because it seems to me that the distribution of abilities is very spread around.

[Guillotina]

Chara's posts are feeling highly reasonable. I don't know if this is alignment indicative.

i don't think it is, necessarily. i do make an effort not to be unreasonable as scum more than i do as town, but it's not like i'd ever be unreasonable as town on

purpose

.

pedit: lmfao

OH FUCK SIGMUND JUST TMIED ME TOWN GET HIM

How is Sigmund's post TMI? Or rather (cause I'm sure you are mocking my reads at this point), do you know the difference between a meta read and TMI?

[morph the cat]

I am fully assuming there are no fakeclaims and that all roles are just roles, alignment secondary at best.

"Hell Demon necromancer" could be town, and "Literally an angel lel" could be scum.

[MURDERCAT]

i think i gave you a hint there

More like you bashed me over the head with it

But yes, what Shea said, everyone is going to soft and hint because you can easily claim something useful if anyone ever calls your bluff. Same logic for why I still pushed Bingle.

[Save The Dragons]

i don't know, what is the difference and how is one supposed to tell?

i want people to think about it before deciding i'm scum for being awkward and non-present in the thread

i mean, day 1 i'm totally fine with wagoning someone for being awkward and non-present. what is someone hypothetically supposed to be thinking about here? how would scum STD be playing differently? it seems like you're just asking not to be scumread but you're not actually giving reasons for it.

also SS asked you a question i'm curious about your answer to, should be fairly recent in his ISO.

my goal is to play different every time. even by a little bit.

i actually don't know the reasons people are scumreading me, so i'm not sure how to respond to me not giving reasons for it, as far as i can tell there's no reason to be scumread so i can't respond.

i want people to think about whether the people attacking me are actually scumreading me or just going for low hanging fruit.

[Save The Dragons]

i think i gave you a hint there

More like you bashed me over the head with it

But yes, what Shea said, everyone is going to soft and hint because you can easily claim something useful if anyone ever calls your bluff. Same logic for why I still pushed Bingle.

it's fair to say this but doesn't change the fact i don't want to be wagoned for that reason

[morph the cat]

Gods part of me wants it to be a requirement to flavor name claim if you're gonna spout off lazy softs.

[Chara]

i'm not sure how one would tell they are a PR given the example town PM has a "PR-like" ability to me.

but i am sure i don't especially want to talk about it!

pedit: i was kidding about Sigmund TMIing me. but the reason i made the joke was because Sigmund said scum Chara would be being unreasonable, with the implicit agreement with SS's post that i was being reasonable, therefore Sigmund must know i'm town.

Sigmund's post i also read as a joke, which is the other reason it wouldn't be a TMI. and it wouldn't be a meta read as Sigmund doesn't have meta on me.

[Guillotina]

SPEWED TOWN BY TMI I LOVE IT

If she flips scum, i will defend you with my life. I will still ask you to contribute because you are not helping much to be honest, you've been posting like a noob wolf would.

Pronoun check. And no, this is one of those D1s when you're apparently like a dog in a butchers.

Apologies, i sometimes forget.

No, Flea you know i always have a hard time reading you, so to read players like us, wild cards, i look out for TMI.
And you stated that Sigmund is not the towniest TOWN. You called Sigmund town with a tone of certainty, only wolves have that certainty right now.

and now I'm pissing mself laughing

I assure you, that is a nervous laugh.

[morph the cat]

Because if we don't have a namecop I'll eat morph's Viking hat.

[MURDERCAT]

Gods part of me wants it to be a requirement to flavor name claim if you're gonna spout off lazy softs.

This feels like a bad idea, but I could be wrong

[Thestatusquo]

i think i gave you a hint there

More like you bashed me over the head with it

But yes, what Shea said, everyone is going to soft and hint because you can easily claim something useful if anyone ever calls your bluff. Same logic for why I still pushed Bingle.

it's fair to say this but doesn't change the fact i don't want to be wagoned for that reason

Do you think you're actually the LHF that scum would target? Seems to me there are wagons on other LHF that scum could easily get behind, so from your POV I would expect you to think a) that the people who are LHF that are being wagoned are more likely to be scum and b) the people attacking you are their buddies or more likely to be town.

I haven't really seen any evidence of either thought process from you which is my big problem with this line of argument from you.

[Save The Dragons]

if sigmund flips red i bet shea is red too

You don't think Sigmund acts the way he did toward tsq if tsq is town? or what

sorry i missed this

it's more about what shea did than what sigmund did. i think there's a world where scum!shea knows scum!sigmund is his partner and calls him out to distance but then backtracks and calls out both of us

it's not a great read but it's a thought i wanted to toss out there

[Save The Dragons]

Gods part of me wants it to be a requirement to flavor name claim if you're gonna spout off lazy softs.

you actually said my flavor earlier

[Chara]

Still like my notsci vote.

That’s not what I said at all

I’m saying the way you have phrased it sounds like you were making a comment while actually knowing the answer

Ninja
Bring it chuckles I eat scum like you for breakfast

You're going to look ridiculous when I flip.

what do you think of this sequence?

i would accept a "this is nothing, Chara, shut up", over the complete lack of responses i've gotten on this point.

[Chara]

if sigmund flips red i bet shea is red too

You don't think Sigmund acts the way he did toward tsq if tsq is town? or what

sorry i missed this

it's more about what shea did than what sigmund did. i think there's a world where scum!shea knows scum!sigmund is his partner and calls him out to distance but then backtracks and calls out both of us

it's not a great read but it's a thought i wanted to toss out there

this is what i figured you were getting at.

re: the my recent posts towards you, i'm saying i think it'd be better if you spent this thread time talking about reads/hunting than just talking about the wagon on you in a nonspecific way.

[morph the cat]

Gods part of me wants it to be a requirement to flavor name claim if you're gonna spout off lazy softs.

you actually said my flavor earlier

LMAO, are you the spoony or the deathy?

[Something_Smart]

it's more about what shea did than what sigmund did.

This is kinda what I suspected, which makes me question the logic. If tsq is town then he'd interact the same way with Sigmund regardless of Sigmund's alignment (because he wouldn't know it). So if you think that scum-tsq wouldn't treat town-Sigmund that way, then wouldn't you want to kill tsq first?

[Something_Smart]

i would accept a "this is nothing, Chara, shut up", over the complete lack of responses i've gotten on this point.

I think you missed the discussion on it already. I brought up 1518 as a reason to townread Ircher and was basically laughed off the block.

[Chara]

that's not what i'm arguing.

[Something_Smart]

What are you arguing?

[Save The Dragons]

i think i gave you a hint there

More like you bashed me over the head with it

But yes, what Shea said, everyone is going to soft and hint because you can easily claim something useful if anyone ever calls your bluff. Same logic for why I still pushed Bingle.

it's fair to say this but doesn't change the fact i don't want to be wagoned for that reason

Do you think you're actually the LHF that scum would target? Seems to me there are wagons on other LHF that scum could easily get behind, so from your POV I would expect you to think a) that the people who are LHF that are being wagoned are more likely to be scum and b) the people attacking you are their buddies or more likely to be town.

I haven't really seen any evidence of either thought process from you which is my big problem with this line of argument from you.

i think by saying i'm LHF that means i think i'm LHF scum would target.

i think sigmund is scum but it's mostly gut. my gut reads are usually pretty good but i'm not going to convince anyone of that so it's whatever.

i'm not sure i follow your arguments. if i thought myself to be LHF why would i think that other people who are LHF are scum? wouldn't i be more likely to think they're town like me? and whose buddies do you mean are attacking me? how can they be both buddies or town.

[Chara]

You're going to look ridiculous when I flip.

In my experience this is a statement mostly made by scum but frequently made by town as well.

I am the most helpful.

incredibly.

i don't like that Ircher said this to notscience, the player he's voting as scum. it doesn't feel like a real reaction.

i've repeated it like 4 times, and it's no ones fault for missing it, but it is a little bit annoying. thanks for replying though.

this was the first instance.

[Something_Smart]

I doubt that scum would pick a specific LHF to focus on.