Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -

[morph the cat]

I'm honestly having a really hard time believing that morph crunched the numbers and did all the research they supposedly did and came to the conclusion "I am nervous about the two players in the game who have the most consistently scummy play styles across both their town games and scum games."

I absolutely love writing a good faith reply to someone's question, and then seeing an insult wrapped in shade in my pedit.

[Thestatusquo]

Saying I find your analysis troubling isnt an insult. Its a statement that I think your analysis is bad. To a point that I don't believe it. If you would link me some threads I'd like to look into it deeper to see if I'm missing something.

[morph the cat]

can you link me.

This is the game I'm mostly thinking about: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85864

[Guillotina]

if Flea flips scum i'm still going to argue that wasn't a slip. it's not about being careful or not being careful, it's about how language works.

also, this sort of thing seems in character for SS to spend time on and care about. or i'm just thinking that because i also care immensely even though it functionally doesn't matter because i do think Flea is scummy, just not for

this

thing, and it bothers me that Sigmund is

disagreeing

with me on the

internet.

It's a psychological slip. This has nothing to do with language.

Flea posted "Sigmund you are FAR from the towniest town in this game. we have many holding that title above you."

If Flea is scum with TMI, they did the following:

1) They sought to create more fire between me and Sigmund. It is clearly a subtle instigation.
2) They also sought to pocket me by selling me the illusion that they agreed with my read and are pushing Sigmund with me to support it.
3) They psychologically acknowledged and confirmed that Sigmund was town.
4) They also acknowledge that he was a town aligned player that was playing anti town.
5) They acknowledged that there are other towns more townie than Sigmund.

My only regret in my reaction was not asking Flea who are the townier players than Sigmund.

[Guillotina]

you're asking me "why would fae slip"

obviously fae wouldn't slip on purpose.

this is a ridiculous question

the whole point of a slip is that its an ACCIDENT

I agree. It's common sense actually. Who knew Sigmund and I were going to agree on something.

[Thestatusquo]

can you link me.

This is the game I'm mostly thinking about: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85864

A brief skim of the iso makes me kind of agree with you.

[Thestatusquo]

Eh fuck it VOTE: Flea

[Guillotina]

I would townread Something_Smart if Flea flips scum actually, I doubt scum would defend a teammate so openly the way they are now.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'd much rather do Anya than Flea today, TBH.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like I took a few days to reset my reads after another was pulled from under me and I think I want Anya dead.

I know they're weird and stuff by nature but it just feels... so...

there is something genuine lacking there

[morph the cat]

I won't yoink the football this time, Charlie Brown.

But I do want you to sell it to me infomercial style.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I won't yoink the football this time, Charlie Brown.

But I do want you to sell it to me infomercial style.

lmfao

If you buy one Anya scum yeet today, you can gather a whole bunch of scum yeets from the people who defend her based off her weird play for FREEE.

ORDER NOW.

No but actually, Anya is doing lots of weird stuff and i get that's the meta but her posts lack a certain genuine aspect that I would need to see from a townie who is genuienly huntign instead of performing.

It's just not there.

[morph the cat]

starting to think guillo might be playing up the confidence act not sure how he can really believe the tabloid articles he's writing

I kinda liked this post when I saw it hit the thread because she took a stance, and it's why I thought she might be transitioning into game-relevant posting.

There's really not much else with even that much chew in her iso.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

starting to think guillo might be playing up the confidence act not sure how he can really believe the tabloid articles he's writing

I kinda liked this post when I saw it hit the thread because she took a stance, and it's why I thought she might be transitioning into game-relevant posting.

There's really not much else with even that much chew in her iso.

Isn't that a zero statement though?

No vote, no pressure. Many people ahve said similar, but we're on everyone but that slot.

Sigmund.
Flea.

It just feels like a contentless empty.... not real.... post.

[morph the cat]

It's one of the most contentful she's made.

you have a point regarding no vote and no pressure, though.

It's meta-time. :/

[Lady Lambdadelta]

It's one of the most contentful she's made.

you have a point regarding no vote and no pressure, though.

It's meta-time. :/

yeah.

that's the most contentful post she's made

she's not attempting to sort the game

she's coasting.

And I think scum would be coasting in this position rn, especially after the madness that happened today?

With so many targerts and target swaps, if scum aren't coasting RN, I'd be SHOCKED.

I am very comfortable with an Anya kill today

[Bingle]

In your own words “ Sigmund you are FAR from the towniest town in this game”. You are saying that he is town but not as townie than others.

Wait, what?

You realize that Flea is responding to a post where Sigmund used that exact phrase to describe himself right?

In other news:

VOTE: Sigmund

Apparently he believed this was a slip in confirming himself but didn't vote Flea over it until pages later. Sounds like scum letting a really dumb T/T happen to me tbh.

[Bingle]

it puts me on a townie chart and says I'm not near the top.

the TMI is that I'm on the townie chart.

a non-tmi response would be to call me a scumbag

Yeah, it didn't do this at all. It responded directly to a post where you called yourself the towniest town to ever town.

Full progression, for context:

4. nah cuz you're literally scumreading the towniest townie in this game.

Sigmund you are FAR from the towniest town in this game. we have many holding that title above you.

whatever i'm still a townie

Sigmund you are FAR from the towniest town in this game. we have many holding that title above you.

VOTE: Flea

Explain why he is not the towniest town Flea?

Notice that this is less than ten posts in 6 minutes.

[Bingle]

Votecount 1.10

Adventurers

:

Flea the Magician [8]: Dunnstral, White Fire, Guillotina, Sigmund, morph the cat Bell Chara, Thestatusquo,
Sigmund [6]: Save the Dragons, Flea the Magician, NDMath, MURDERCAT Artemiana, Bingle,
Ircher [3]: Anya, Titus WhemeStar
Save the Dragons [2]: Toogeloo, Farkran,
Anya [2]: Ircher Lady Lambdadelta
MURDERCAT [1]: notscience

Not Voting [1]: Not_Mafia Something_Smart

Please let me know if you see errors and I'll do my utmost to fix

With 23 alive it takes 13 to eliminate. Stratum 1 ends in (expired on 2021-06-04 22:25:25).

[Bingle]

^Updated, btw.

[Bingle]

I haven't played with Flea, but I have semi-watched a few games, notably some recent funky idea games. My spectator impression of Flea's town game is that faers posts become less ~empty~ as the game advances. Here, they are arguably getting MORE empty as this day has advanced.

I agree based on Among Us that flea starts strong as scum and loses steam, but I don't really see faer loss of steam here, tbh.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Bingle, what about Anya?

oh speaking of, thanks for reminding me

Vote: Anya

[Toogeloo]

So, uh...

Maybe we should just have Flea, Sigmund, and Ircher (and STD maybe?) all claim right now, and we lynch the claim we can live the least without.

Or, we can just have the wisdom of the IC tell us who to lunch and just trust Jingle on a read they'd like sorted.

I'm vehemently opposed to eliminating Flea or Ircher today, and the only reason I'd consider Sigmund is for how unhelpful I feel that slot is in working with people. In fact I'm a bit irritated that discussion has only revolved around Sigmund, Flea, and Ircher for the last 3 days, and we have made literally no headway on either getting claims, forming wagons, or pursuing other possibilities. People literally plugging their ears and zipping their mouths.

[Bingle]

uhhhh, Bingle voted Ircher. where is Bingle? Bingle come in here and get the wagons going in the right direction, this ain't my job lmao.

Gross AF, but fine.

tl;dr: None of Ircher's posts seem town. jjh's 49, 50, 71, 72, and 99 are all actively scummy. Ircher tried to wave that off with "jjh not being around is null because he didn't have time to play" when that was A: not the point of the read and B: actually probably not the case. (JJH's rep out is 100% NAI FMPOV).

It's not a strong case. It's actually a pretty shit one, tbh. But in lieu of strong lim options I think it's a fine wagon.

[Sigmund]

Apparently he believed this was a slip in confirming himself but didn't vote Flea over it until pages later. Sounds like scum letting a really dumb T/T happen to me tbh.

oh no

I forgot to vote flea right away and instead voted flea 1 hour later

what a massive massive scum slip bingle