Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -

[Flea The Magician]

Pfft, if I get a good read on LLD I ain't scared to face off with the tiger/murderbirb if needed.

Unholy confidence is one thing, having the backing to it is another.

[Thestatusquo]

VOTE: Sigmund

[Flea The Magician]

Spoiler: When I think of all the time I've wasted

Yeah it's gonna illuminate whether I need to fucking full claim or not.

...Do you have reason to believe that morph's claim can't be true? or what?

Like three of them.

And one of them is "Immune to Stat Changes, but only if scum target you?!?!"

Like that is such a bullshit claim? Like, for real.

It reads like the kind of nonsense Cabd invents

*grabs popcorn*

This looks like it's gunna be fun...

My townread on Guillotina is primarily based on 1859. 1850 was a potential townslip, but an easy dumbtell for scum to fake. But after people called it out as being wrong, he totally missed what people were saying and doubled down on the dumbtell. I think that it's unlikely that scum-Guillotina thinks to do that, regardless of what his personality is like.

Honestly, a dumbtell from Guill is probably NAI at best.
Looking at the posts, I am not seeing this slip at all and just Guill being Guill, honestly. Making several assumptions and seeing what people think.

My answer to #1859 is "absolutely."

I probably won't expand on any of my opinions for a couple of days

*Slowly chews popcorn*

are you fucking with me rn

*Pulls blast shield from picnic basket*

I am concerned that

Cabd

ffery made a chart with everyone's reads on it.

I do hope I find out why :3

I am concerned that Cabd made a chart with everyone's reads on it.

I didn't do shit lol.

OI

YOU

C'MERE

*Sets up blast shield*

Spoiler: Of all the bitter pills I've tasted

Ouch

Yes

But ouch

Ninja
Y not me

This thread is our PT. I need something away from the masses for chara. Otherwise chara gets distracted too easily

I relate to the getting distracted... I don't have music, a video and a game in the background, honest.

googleusercontent image

I can't see this Might I recommend imgbb?

I feel for LLD as Arte is pretty blatantly obvscum and the first scum we get to wagon. If this is a dual aligned gambit, it'll be exposed soon enough.

I find it pretty scummy to even use a debuff n0 as you're likely not hitting scum.

Still, I don't see morph faking an inno day 1. If it is scum fuckery, they have to do what LLD did in that game with fake masons and shit.

UNVOTE: Arte

I'm not seeing the obvscum Arte here?

Spoiler: I have to hang my head and frown

Whats clear is that someone in this game has an ability to debuff other players in some way shape or form.

When was this made clear?

the OP is in the skipped area. I'm going to confirm Arte's post here.

VOTE: Ircher

This seems a bit nekkid? I don't see any suspicions of Ircher being mentioned?

Curse you autocorrect

I expected sassier.

Spoiler: I've suffered enough, in this ghost town.

Observing that he can say that as scum, while technically true, misses the point.

The point is that in my experience that isn't a common line of reasoning for scum to think about. Taken at face value, it's pointless; scum don't need to talk about what happens after their town flip because that will never happen. That means that it's easy for scum to miss that when trying to decide how to appear town. Whereas, town think of that very readily, because they care a lot about evaluating the people pushing them and it matters to them what happens after they die, if they do die.

There seems to be some misconception that scum have more trouble faking posts that require more effort which leads naturally to this effort = town paradigm that gets the low-content players mis-executed game after game. I'm not saying Ircher is necessarily town, but it seems to me that he's being pushed mostly for being low-content rather than actually scummy, even if he is in fact scum.

Just sayin I am all the proof you need that effort=/=town.

Anyone whom I don't townread, at least for the time being.

I love when people answer around a question.

Irchers #2109

2109
Almost disappointed I'm not mentioned

(Read 311 first.) This is a terrible post for obvious reasons.

It is a terrible post, but is it a scummy post or is it a post from someone who didn't read the OP?

Given the fuckin hilarious jump on me, I'm disappointed in guill for this.

VOTE: Ndmath

This is the spiciest vote in pages.

I've seen spicer Bell peppers.

we need a town leader to step up. this ircher wagon is trash.
someone gather the masses and lead us to a glorious wagon.

i would do it but i don't have the pull yet until i gain levels and can put more points in charisma

Skyrim solution: Keep Trying.
Sims solution: Talk nonsense into a mirror.
Best solution: Find a way to increase your roll. I had a Genius train my Sin Eater to lie and gained 2 points in Subterfuge. Helped by the Genius having a specialisation in Blatent Lies.

[Flea The Magician]

Spoiler: When I think of all the time I've wasted

Yeah it's gonna illuminate whether I need to fucking full claim or not.

...Do you have reason to believe that morph's claim can't be true? or what?

Like three of them.

And one of them is "Immune to Stat Changes, but only if scum target you?!?!"

Like that is such a bullshit claim? Like, for real.

It reads like the kind of nonsense Cabd invents

*grabs popcorn*

This looks like it's gunna be fun...

My townread on Guillotina is primarily based on 1859. 1850 was a potential townslip, but an easy dumbtell for scum to fake. But after people called it out as being wrong, he totally missed what people were saying and doubled down on the dumbtell. I think that it's unlikely that scum-Guillotina thinks to do that, regardless of what his personality is like.

Honestly, a dumbtell from Guill is probably NAI at best.
Looking at the posts, I am not seeing this slip at all and just Guill being Guill, honestly. Making several assumptions and seeing what people think.

My answer to #1859 is "absolutely."

I probably won't expand on any of my opinions for a couple of days

*Slowly chews popcorn*

are you fucking with me rn

*Pulls blast shield from picnic basket*

I am concerned that

Cabd

ffery made a chart with everyone's reads on it.

I do hope I find out why :3

I am concerned that Cabd made a chart with everyone's reads on it.

I didn't do shit lol.

OI

YOU

C'MERE

*Sets up blast shield*

Spoiler: Of all the bitter pills I've tasted

Ouch

Yes

But ouch

Ninja
Y not me

This thread is our PT. I need something away from the masses for chara. Otherwise chara gets distracted too easily

I relate to the getting distracted... I don't have music, a video and a game in the background, honest.

googleusercontent image

I can't see this Might I recommend imgbb?

I feel for LLD as Arte is pretty blatantly obvscum and the first scum we get to wagon. If this is a dual aligned gambit, it'll be exposed soon enough.

I find it pretty scummy to even use a debuff n0 as you're likely not hitting scum.

Still, I don't see morph faking an inno day 1. If it is scum fuckery, they have to do what LLD did in that game with fake masons and shit.

UNVOTE: Arte

I'm not seeing the obvscum Arte here?

Spoiler: I have to hang my head and frown

Whats clear is that someone in this game has an ability to debuff other players in some way shape or form.

When was this made clear?

the OP is in the skipped area. I'm going to confirm Arte's post here.

VOTE: Ircher

This seems a bit nekkid? I don't see any suspicions of Ircher being mentioned?

Curse you autocorrect

I expected sassier.

Spoiler: I've suffered enough, in this ghost town.

Observing that he can say that as scum, while technically true, misses the point.

The point is that in my experience that isn't a common line of reasoning for scum to think about. Taken at face value, it's pointless; scum don't need to talk about what happens after their town flip because that will never happen. That means that it's easy for scum to miss that when trying to decide how to appear town. Whereas, town think of that very readily, because they care a lot about evaluating the people pushing them and it matters to them what happens after they die, if they do die.

There seems to be some misconception that scum have more trouble faking posts that require more effort which leads naturally to this effort = town paradigm that gets the low-content players mis-executed game after game. I'm not saying Ircher is necessarily town, but it seems to me that he's being pushed mostly for being low-content rather than actually scummy, even if he is in fact scum.

Just sayin I am all the proof you need that effort=/=town.

Anyone whom I don't townread, at least for the time being.

I love when people answer around a question.

Irchers #2109

2109
Almost disappointed I'm not mentioned

(Read 311 first.) This is a terrible post for obvious reasons.

It is a terrible post, but is it a scummy post or is it a post from someone who didn't read the OP?

Given the fuckin hilarious jump on me, I'm disappointed in guill for this.

VOTE: Ndmath

This is the spiciest vote in pages.

I've seen spicer Bell peppers.

we need a town leader to step up. this ircher wagon is trash.
someone gather the masses and lead us to a glorious wagon.

i would do it but i don't have the pull yet until i gain levels and can put more points in charisma

Skyrim solution: Keep Trying.
Sims solution: Talk nonsense into a mirror.
Best solution: Find a way to increase your roll. I had a Genius train my Sin Eater to lie and gained 2 points in Subterfuge. Helped by the Genius having a specialisation in Blatent Lies.

[Flea The Magician]

I hate when that happens.

[Titus]

LLD is my spirit animal.

VOTE: anya

[Flea The Magician]

Eugh I'm going to need to ISO read guill.. progression is weird as fuck.

[Guillotina]

Eugh I'm going to need to ISO read guill.. progression is weird as fuck.

@Flea Yesterday you townread me pre-TMI accusation and town leaned post-TMI accusation, refer to my “dumb tells” as NAI and now you say that my progression is weird as fuck, how come you didnt think it was weird as fuck yesterday?

@Artemiana just because Bingle is confirmed town it does not mean he has good reads or that he is qualified to be a town leader. Your suggestion that we should blindly follow Bingle because he is confirmed town is questionable.

@everyone I can compromise with a vote in my scumreads. I'd rather they were Flea, but i'd vote Sigmund too. The fact that he called me wolfboy when i was pushing him for TMI and then he is using my TMI accusation on Flea to defend himself, instead of explaining himself why he scumreads Flea and is voting for Flea plus his entire irritation and fluff play during this game keeps bothering.

I individually scumread both Sigmund and Flea, im just having a hard time putting them together as a possible team now, unless that moment right there was not an instigation but rather Flea distancing from Sigmund and a pocket attempt on me.

[Chara]

anya has more content than that one post. it's all dressed up in the strange language but she hasn't been doing nothing all day.

i don't think LLD is scum, though.

[Something_Smart]

I'd be comfortable treating this game entirely like a smalltown, where we just ignore roleclaims.

Well, even if all claims are NAI, there are still some roles you would want to keep alive because they're valuable. But I can get behind this.

[Something_Smart]

Let's compromise on Anya then.

I'm very certain she's scum after her response in the last few pages.

Doesn't sound like much of a compromise to me

[Chara]

Would you compromise on Anya?

You would be vote 5
Bingle 6
Morph 7

+

With a few of those votes being moved, faer would no longer be the largest wagon

I wouldn't vote Anya for reasons. That being said, i don't know the player, i don't think i can read her properly, and i don't think it would be particularly valuable info compared to the alternatives.

i'm here re: anya too.

like, i would vote her to avoid a no-elim, but it's the same as voting a null read.

pedit: i can get behind anything that isn't "have three players claim to settle which one to elim".

[Something_Smart]

Like I'm really not interested in doing any of Ircher Sigmund or Flea today. They're all bad wagons.

What about STD? He just kinda dropped off of everyone's radar.

[Something_Smart]

she's not pushing me for a single good reason her push on bingles failed bc it was on confirmed town and now she's trying again on me

Why does LLD-scum start an eleventh hour wagon against you instead of pushing through an existing one?

[Thestatusquo]

Would you compromise on Anya?

You would be vote 5
Bingle 6
Morph 7

+

With a few of those votes being moved, faer would no longer be the largest wagon

I wouldn't vote Anya for reasons. That being said, i don't know the player, i don't think i can read her properly, and i don't think it would be particularly valuable info compared to the alternatives.

i'm here re: anya too.

like, i would vote her to avoid a no-elim, but it's the same as voting a null read.

pedit: i can get behind anything that isn't "have three players claim to settle which one to elim".

I have seen nothing from anya that makes me think they're >rand scum. And this wagon stinks of a scum driven counter wagon.

[Chara]

i wish i knew the counts, my vote would be on whichever of Sigmund or Flea is higher.

[Thestatusquo]

Bingle did a unofficial vc a couple of pages back.

[Something_Smart]

I have seen nothing from anya that makes me think they're >rand scum. And this wagon stinks of a scum driven counter wagon.

Same question I just asked Anya to you. If LLD is scum pushing a counterwagon, why does she start a completely new wagon instead of pushing an existing one?

[Chara]

VOTE: bingle

sure i townread lady

TSQ do you townread me?

Not really, no. I don't think you've done much of consequence. But i don't agree with morphs logic about you.

Alrighty

VOTE: unvote well that was a bad sheep

I would say this game suffers from a lack of sheep. Not in the sense that there's too many people trying to lead but more in the sense that no one is following and they're not proposing alternate ideas either.

I am a great sheep i just dont have a lock town read

THEY ARE VOTING ME

VOTE: notsci

you're on hibernation mode

WHat's farkran's deal?

he feels zombielike right like he's wrapped up in bandages so he doesn't fall apart but still tries to wear normal clothes over them to fit into society

artemania looks like an eager adventurer trying to find a homely party and dungeons to loot i like the spirit

VOTE: whemestar transcribes text but i have no idea why he transcribes what he does

1508 reads too strong for a previously naked vote which is where the annoyance should've been placed looks like he's up on the stage

also it could be a wolf trying to look intimidating to another wolf so we don't think think they're actually best buds but he's overdoing it

like i don't care if you don't like the content but anya's ISO

has

content.

[Something_Smart]

Calling some of those posts content is... generous.

[Thestatusquo]

Votecount 1.10

Adventurers

:

Flea the Magician [7]: Dunnstral, White Fire, Guillotina, Sigmund, morph the cat Bell Chara, farkran
Sigmund [7]: Save the Dragons, Flea the Magician, NDMath, MURDERCAT Artemiana, Bingle, thestatusquo
Ircher [2]: WhemeStar toogaloo
Anya [4]: Ircher Lady Lambdadelta artemiana titus
MURDERCAT [1]: notscience
LLD [1]: Anya

Not Voting [1]: Not_Mafia Something_Smart

Please let me know if you see errors and I'll do my utmost to fix

With 23 alive it takes 13 to eliminate. Stratum 1 ends in (expired on 2021-06-04 22:25:25).

Updated again

[Thestatusquo]

Should be 8 on flea not 7. Forgot to update the number.

[notscience]

VOTE: flea

[Chara]

it's content. anya posts in a strange way like that. that doesn't mean she isn't calling Fark scum for posting in a dead sort of way in 1321. and 1662 8 don't need to explain.

like even if you don't think it's good content i think LLD's claim that the post morph quoted is anya's only hunting post is just not right.

[Thestatusquo]

I liked fleas most recent posts a decent amount and I still don't like a single thing sigmund has done all game.