Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -

[Chara]

Flea: BoI mafia probably won't be for a while. i've been playing a lot of Hollow Knight.
also i didn't think you were that LHF, but i did see you as possibly closer to it than the others i pointed out. i agreed with the second list "cosmically" ie generally.

[Flea The Magician]

I'm reminded of the ever amusing "I helped Uncle Jack, off his horse." exercise here and it's amusing me.

Case on NDMath is - there isn't one. It's an 11 post slot, there's no case to be made.


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[Guillotina]

I don't know about you guys but I feel there is pressure against either of those two yeets, which could mean three things:

1) Both are scum
2) One of them is scum and they don't wanna yeet the other one because then I could be right about the other one.
3) I am the one who is wrong about both Flea and Sigmund and everyone else townreads them.

Fine! Luckily for you I got others in my scum pile.

How about this fine specimen? VOTE: Farkran

We got a fan here.

Would you compromise on Anya?

You would be vote 5
Bingle 6
Morph 7

+

With a few of those votes being moved, faer would no longer be the largest wagon

I wouldn't vote Anya for reasons

. That being said,

i don't know the player, i don't think i can read her properly,

and i don't think it would be particularly valuable info compared to the alternatives.

This is scum, regardless of what happens today. Like, this is the worst hedging nonsense I've ever seen.

and me as well

I think she could be scum, but she's also a player who talks a lot and will be sorted at some point no matter what

Farkran is scum here. Townies don't scum read someone but considers the idea of letting them live longer just because the player's meta is that they talk a lot.
I'm undecided on whether this looks like a save or a pocket.

I also think it's not theatrey, as in they aren't s/s but why not t/s?

Excuse me?

[Chara]

kind of just want to see someone flip so i can see where i'm right and where i'm wrong. but i don't want yet another new wagon as compromise.

[Guillotina]

I'm not voting anya.

Why is anya town aside from me voting anya?

I can't talk about this because of ongoing games.

Surely you can describe the townish behavior. Or are you saying there is none?

I thought my statement was very fucking clear to be honest and you trying to goad me into breaking site rules isn't going to work.

I'm not asking for meta or behavior over multiple games. I'm asking for what makes her town in this game. I don't care about ongoing games or references to any past completed games.

I would never goad anyone into breaking site rules.

Here you're using every defense in the book but explaining why anya is town because you can't. There is no reason to think she is.

Ok. Sell me on why Anya is scum then? TSQ and Lady did a terrible job, maybe you can close that deal.

[Dunnstral]

Tell em' ffery

Use your big brain

I'm wondering if Morph ever caught onto this and have kept it to themselves or if they have no clue what I'm on about

[Guillotina]

ok that's all you're getting today on catchup, as it stands, I'm good for NDMath or Sigmund, I'm open to compromise to make sure we get a lim.

What's the case on NDMath?

I'm still waiting Flea

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Anya

Because LLD seems convinced

[Bell]

Did Anya ever claim

[Bingle]

I do not think continuing to argue the point helps anything.

I think continuing to argue the point has the capacity to make Guillotina stop confbiasing a bad read and that given I think Guillotina is town that is valuable to me. I also think that Sigmund is scum encouraging G's bad read here, and will continue pointing that out.


Guillotina, this is a similar engagement I had with scum in a just finished game. I was town. Multiple people, including conftown, have told you that the phrasing Flea used is objectively neutral on the alignment of Sigmund given specifically that they themselves would use that phrasing. Either they are all lying, including the conftown, or there is a set of the population (which appears to be everyone except you from where I sit) who WOULD use that phrase to convey that specific meaning.

As far as pushback on the Sigmund wagon, I believe that is literally just morph, who has not really explained why.

[Titus]

I'm not voting anya.

Why is anya town aside from me voting anya?

I can't talk about this because of ongoing games.

Surely you can describe the townish behavior. Or are you saying there is none?

I thought my statement was very fucking clear to be honest and you trying to goad me into breaking site rules isn't going to work.

I'm not asking for meta or behavior over multiple games. I'm asking for what makes her town in this game. I don't care about ongoing games or references to any past completed games.

I would never goad anyone into breaking site rules.

Here you're using every defense in the book but explaining why anya is town because you can't. There is no reason to think she is.

Ok. Sell me on why Anya is scum then? TSQ and Lady did a terrible job, maybe you can close that deal.

There's an absolute and utter lack of solving in her ISO. Her only response to people pushing on her is to call them scum. Can you name one push she's done that isn't OMGUS? Can you see anything that's intended to get a reaction? Can you show any follow through?

The case on Anya is that she isn't doing anything at all.

[Bingle]

Did Anya ever claim

No, and also who cares?

[Bell]

Did Anya ever claim

No, and also who cares?

I do.

[Chara]

i just don't agree about anya, she is doing things in her ISO, she's made votes with reasoning before the LLD vote, yeah they're not especially big moves but i think that's just the kind of player anya is.

i'm just not seeing the big slam-dunk that she isn't solving at all. i'd accept that her solving isn't deep or some other reason but i think this is the vibe anya brings to the table generally.

i like Sigmund or Flea better.

[morph the cat]

Tell em' ffery

Use your big brain

I'm wondering if Morph ever caught onto this and have kept it to themselves or if they have no clue what I'm on about

We metaphorically looked sideways at each other and shrugged. "something about galaxy brains?"

[Thestatusquo]

I'm not voting anya.

Why is anya town aside from me voting anya?

I can't talk about this because of ongoing games.

Surely you can describe the townish behavior. Or are you saying there is none?

I thought my statement was very fucking clear to be honest and you trying to goad me into breaking site rules isn't going to work.

I'm not asking for meta or behavior over multiple games. I'm asking for what makes her town in this game. I don't care about ongoing games or references to any past completed games.

I would never goad anyone into breaking site rules.

Here you're using every defense in the book but explaining why anya is town because you can't. There is no reason to think she is.

Ok. Sell me on why Anya is scum then? TSQ and Lady did a terrible job, maybe you can close that deal.

Uh I'm explicitly against an anya yeet.

[Guillotina]

I'm not voting anya.

Why is anya town aside from me voting anya?

I can't talk about this because of ongoing games.

Surely you can describe the townish behavior. Or are you saying there is none?

I thought my statement was very fucking clear to be honest and you trying to goad me into breaking site rules isn't going to work.

I'm not asking for meta or behavior over multiple games. I'm asking for what makes her town in this game. I don't care about ongoing games or references to any past completed games.

I would never goad anyone into breaking site rules.

Here you're using every defense in the book but explaining why anya is town because you can't. There is no reason to think she is.

Ok. Sell me on why Anya is scum then? TSQ and Lady did a terrible job, maybe you can close that deal.

There's an absolute and utter lack of solving in her ISO. Her only response to people pushing on her is to call them scum. Can you name one push she's done that isn't OMGUS? Can you see anything that's intended to get a reaction? Can you show any follow through?

The case on Anya is that she isn't doing anything at all.

Ok. Do you scumread Sigmund?

[Titus]

I'm not voting anya.

Why is anya town aside from me voting anya?

I can't talk about this because of ongoing games.

Surely you can describe the townish behavior. Or are you saying there is none?

I thought my statement was very fucking clear to be honest and you trying to goad me into breaking site rules isn't going to work.

I'm not asking for meta or behavior over multiple games. I'm asking for what makes her town in this game. I don't care about ongoing games or references to any past completed games.

I would never goad anyone into breaking site rules.

Here you're using every defense in the book but explaining why anya is town because you can't. There is no reason to think she is.

Ok. Sell me on why Anya is scum then? TSQ and Lady did a terrible job, maybe you can close that deal.

There's an absolute and utter lack of solving in her ISO. Her only response to people pushing on her is to call them scum. Can you name one push she's done that isn't OMGUS? Can you see anything that's intended to get a reaction? Can you show any follow through?

The case on Anya is that she isn't doing anything at all.

Ok. Do you scumread Sigmund?

Absolutely not.

[Flea The Magician]

ok that's all you're getting today on catchup, as it stands, I'm good for NDMath or Sigmund, I'm open to compromise to make sure we get a lim.

What's the case on NDMath?

I'm still waiting Flea

I'm reminded of the ever amusing "I helped Uncle Jack, off his horse." exercise here and it's amusing me.

Case on NDMath is - there isn't one. It's an 11 post slot, there's no case to be made.


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[Thestatusquo]

It's an 11 post slot but i remember agreeing with several of their takes.

[Sigmund]

Either they are all lying, including the conftown, or there is a set of the population (which appears to be everyone except you from where I sit) who WOULD use that phrase to convey that specific meaning.

or you're just wrong.

something that could possibly happen

[Farkran]

Would you compromise on Anya?

You would be vote 5
Bingle 6
Morph 7

+

With a few of those votes being moved, faer would no longer be the largest wagon

I wouldn't vote Anya for reasons

. That being said,

i don't know the player, i don't think i can read her properly,

and i don't think it would be particularly valuable info compared to the alternatives.

This is scum, regardless of what happens today. Like, this is the worst hedging nonsense I've ever seen.

Wow i didn't even notice this until guillotina pointed it out

Anyways you should really drop your tunnel guillo, because i'm town and it's not the first time i tell you so. If you are town, and i think you are, it's part of your wincon to let me live.

@LLD, what in that post sounds hedging, given that i can't talk about my motives for not voting anya?

[Guillotina]

I'm not voting anya.

Why is anya town aside from me voting anya?

I can't talk about this because of ongoing games.

Surely you can describe the townish behavior. Or are you saying there is none?

I thought my statement was very fucking clear to be honest and you trying to goad me into breaking site rules isn't going to work.

I'm not asking for meta or behavior over multiple games. I'm asking for what makes her town in this game. I don't care about ongoing games or references to any past completed games.

I would never goad anyone into breaking site rules.

Here you're using every defense in the book but explaining why anya is town because you can't. There is no reason to think she is.

Ok. Sell me on why Anya is scum then? TSQ and Lady did a terrible job, maybe you can close that deal.

There's an absolute and utter lack of solving in her ISO. Her only response to people pushing on her is to call them scum. Can you name one push she's done that isn't OMGUS? Can you see anything that's intended to get a reaction? Can you show any follow through?

The case on Anya is that she isn't doing anything at all.

Ok. Do you scumread Sigmund?

Absolutely not.

Ok.

But... according to what you have expressed, Anya and Sigmund's play have been similar, they lack of solve and only OMGUS the players that push them. Sigmund OMGUS me until I suspected Flea which directly benefited him but before that he's been calling me wolfboy etc and his content is bad. So why do you scumread Anya but not Sigmund?

[Chara]

i mean Math's posts have more content than most of mine, lmao. if you're going to scumread the slot at least say why besides activity. especially from Flea who has been arguing activity is NAI for faer.

[morph the cat]

Tell em' ffery

Use your big brain

I'm wondering if Morph ever caught onto this and have kept it to themselves or if they have no clue what I'm on about

We metaphorically looked sideways at each other and shrugged. "something about galaxy brains?"

Although looking back that was probably a gloss-over.

Your certainty does ping townish, though.