Open 815: Forest Fire Redux [Endgame]

[Lukewarm]

Decent observation but our 1v1 was very meta dependent so I can understand why Fidget and the Fairy Child didn't have much to add. I actually found Lukewarm dipping from the thread shortly after it happened more suspicious over the other two stayed to post about other things. Possible mafia leaves not wanting to get involved and seeing how it goes (if it's TvT)

I am not sure what this is even referring to.

When did I supposedly dip from the thread, while Fidget and Fairy Child stayed and posted about other things?

It was the gap between 199 and 241

You stopped posting shortly after I voted for Prism, dip is assuming you're scum who tactically avoided it like some kind of tactical nuke

Okay, but my question is why you would think my lack of thread presence there was scummy, while simultaneously not see a problem from the others?

My "suspicious" gap was apparently 199 -> 241

But Fidget was unsuspicious for having a gap from 201 -> 256

We left the thread literally the same minute, but me doing so was suspicious and her doing so was reasonable?

[Lukewarm]

It's an assumption based on that being the only townlean you've outed so far I think, correct me if wrong

I am pretty sure that I have a stated town lean on Ydra as well, but regardless seeing you characterize this

I think I am leaning town T3 here, but now he has me paranoid

As a "my strongest town" seems odd.

[Hectic]

Huh, you're right, it didn't feel like Fidget was absent for some reason, probably because she has a post on page 9 and you don't

Pedit: I'm not saying your read on T3 is strong, I'm saying it's your strongest read, even if it's weak. Do you think scum!me would gain something from falsely characterizing it that way?

[Ydrasse]

z z

[Hectic]

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

[Hectic]

Go on then, why don't you start sending some missiles in

[Ydrasse]

?

[Hectic]

Go on then, why don't you start sending some missiles in

[Lukewarm]

Huh, you're right, it didn't feel like Fidget was absent for some reason, probably because she has a post on page 9 and you don't

Pedit: I'm not saying your read on T3 is strong, I'm saying it's your strongest read, even if it's weak. Do you think scum!me would gain something from falsely characterizing it that way?

Well, from my pov, I just saw a mischaracterization, into a mischaracterization, into me being on your scum list.

So I am trying to figure out if you were just looking for reasons to have me listed as scum

[Hectic]

Nope, but I like you digging into me to find out

Mind still explaining that T3 read anyway?

[Ydrasse]

the ? was because i don’t get it

[Hectic]

Defibrillate the thread into something more interesting

[Lukewarm]

I think I am leaning town T3 here, but now he has me paranoid by saying this

Lukewarm scumreading me this game is a huge scumtell.

In a - once he becomes aware of his scum meta tells, it is less useful - kind of way.

I find the paranoia in this post a little strange, I think it's a bit of a reach to link T3 talking about a tell of yours to him manipulating his own scummeta

Could you talk about why he appears to be your strongest town thus far, Lukewarm?

To actually answer this question though, the paranoia is more that I confidently had a correct read on him 2 games in a row by page 10, but this game I did not have a confident read.

Also, I think you too missed the joke coming from T3. He was not actually talking about a scumtell of mine, seeing as how he has never seen me as scum. He was talking about my ability to read him.

[Ydrasse]

uninterested / have no topic to drive it and working

just watching right now most part

[Hectic]

Okay, gotcha

pedit: sure, your vibe injections are appreciated anyway

[Lukewarm]

Lukewarm scumreading me this game is a huge scumtell.

Like this actually parses out to

"Town Luke has read me correctly by page 10 in our last 2 games"

"I am town this game"

"If Luke thinks says he scum reads me, he must be scum"

[Hectic]

Infinity 324
Fidget
Lukewarm
Fidget
Child of Fairies
Ydrasse
JohnnyFarrar
T3
Prism

I looked over Lukewarm's marathon scum game in the meantime, and tone is a lot less confrontational/confidence than how he just interacted here

Pedit: I think T3 mentioning that is actually more scum-indicative than town-indicative, there's reason to hold that read close to the chest if he thinks there's actually any value to it

[Lukewarm]

I am now exiting the thread. I, as a human, need food to survive.

Spoiler:

Would not normally share this, but some people think that someone for leaving the thread at 5:30 pm could be indicative of scumminess, without considering the possibility that someone's husband may be asking them to get off the computer so that we could get ready to go out for dinner

Spoiler:

Typed out joke. Seems less funny then I thought it would. Sending anyways because I already spent the time to type it out

[Ydrasse]

irritation at feeling like i should be apparent vs energy too low to try

[Hectic]

Apparently town?

[Ydrasse]

yes

[Hectic]

You're locktown, I'm trying not to get you nightkilled

[Ydrasse]

hm

[Prism]

I thought Fidget's reaction to the 1v1 was very questionable. He doesn't really stop to consider the reverse where I would be correctly reading Hectic. This really felt like trying to understand the minimum amount w/ the confidence argument to give a passable stance and immediately read no further. (While I am biased due to the vote on me, Hectic's side also has a lot more depth than that. I took issue with Child's framing of our argument as superficial because both of us have really been splitting hairs)

Lukewarm had by far the best reaction to the 1v1, not even close, and should be voted in no world. I think Johnny's reaction was fine. I'm mostly confused as to why Child didn't vote me, or if they were suggesting it was SvS or TvS w/ the going through the motions argument.

As much as I want to call Infinity a townlean for their interactions with me yesterday I think that'd be a mistake, and I've fought off that instinct enough to call her null.

[Prism]

Apologies, Fidget uses she/her.