Townstumps Mafia (Endgame)

[Mia and Maya Fey]

My bad, didn't mean to intrude on your private joke. Speaking of private jokes, where's A50 these days?

Hopefully not a potential replacement in this game?

[mastina]

but then that makes us vulnerable to the nightkill

Way I see it, feature not a flaw.

Players who are more valuable with votes than with immortal voices being forced to be nightkills means scum are forced into a box. There are obligatory, mandatory, nightkills that they MUST make, or else they automatically lose, which makes the game much easier for the town.

Players who are more valuable with voices that are left with votes aren't as mandatory of nightkills, but when killed give the scum more leeway, more freedom, more breathing room. They're not mandatory nightkills, but can be nightkilled. If they're nightkilled it gives the town comparatively less info because they weren't going to make the most out of their votes anyway, and if they're left alive they're not as big of a threat because their vote isn't their deadliest tool.

I genuinely believe that treestumping the players whose greatest tool is their vote is a mistake because forcing scum to nightkill these players is a net BOON to the town, as it limits scum's nightkills.

Limiting scum's pool of nightkills > leaving scum with flexibility in who to nightkill.

Also,

and I think I have learned how to case much better in recent times

You needing to case is again something I feel is a nerf to your natural playstyle. If you are, by your role, required to case because you lack a vote to apply the pressure, it's taking away from your natural ability to generate that pressure because it's forcing you to do something that isn't inherently generating pressure in the HOPES that after having done so you MIGHT generate pressure.

Guarantee of pressure thanks to having a vote > possibility of pressure after spending time doing something you're not innately good at.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

If we’re stump we can guarantee we’re town. don’t die and don’t need to stress over bad reads on us.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mastina so convincing my god.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: NorwegianboyEE
Plz not Not_Mafia. They're like the least convincing player in existence, there is literally nothing to gain from stumping them other than bad memes.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also if i get stumped i will add an compulsive-night 1-Not_Mafia-targeting-strongman to the game.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

im gonna townblock with notmafia and there's nothing you can do to stop me

[Gamma Emerald]

My bad, didn't mean to intrude on your private joke. Speaking of private jokes, where's A50 these days?

Hopefully not a potential replacement in this game?

Oof
My relationship with A50 is strained but this feels harsh

[NorwegianboyEE]

My relationship with A50 is strained but this feels harsh

Why? Did i miss something?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I might have an unhealthy interest in forum drama so uh... you don't have to answer but yeah...

[Not Known 15]

Both the Mia hydra AND Not Mafia are bad picks, they would submit masons.

[nomnomnom]

VOTE: N_M

[House]

VOTE: Fey siblings

[House]

VOTE: NorwegianboyEE
Plz not Not_Mafia. They're like the least convincing player in existence, there is literally nothing to gain from stumping them other than bad memes.

Precisely this.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: NorwegianboyEE
Plz not Not_Mafia. They're like the least convincing player in existence, there is literally nothing to gain from stumping them other than bad memes.

Precisely this.

Also to add on to it, i've almost never seen them explain their reads in a game of mafia, at least as an actual player they have a vote and thus can switch the wagons in either direction. As a stump they would need to actually convince players their scumread should be eliminated.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Assuming they're even going to play seriously.

[House]

Assuming they're even going to play seriously.

Please hammer the Feys.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

Both the Mia hydra AND Not Mafia are bad picks, they would submit masons.

what's wrong with masons???

[House]

A vote is not the deciding factor that mastina is claiming. Pressure is.

An immortal town scumhunter with the ability to constantly influence votes is much more beneficial than a single vote that can be killed off.

[House]

Also if i get stumped i will add an compulsive-night 1-Not_Mafia-targeting-strongman to the game.

Strongman isn't a role, it's a modifier... so unless you add "vig" or some other killing role, it won't have any effect.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also if i get stumped i will add an compulsive-night 1-Not_Mafia-targeting-strongman to the game.

Strongman isn't a role, it's a modifier... so unless you add "vig" or some other killing role, it won't have any effect.

I know it was a joke.

[House]

Also if i get stumped i will add an compulsive-night 1-Not_Mafia-targeting-strongman to the game.

Strongman isn't a role, it's a modifier... so unless you add "vig" or some other killing role, it won't have any effect.

I know it was a joke.

Please hammer the Feys.

[nomnomnom]

Fine
Just get this out of the way
VOTE: feys

[Not Known 15]

Both the Mia hydra AND Not Mafia are bad picks, they would submit masons.

what's wrong with masons???

VOTE: Not Known 15
I am a good selection for treestump. People frequently suspect me - probably because my play as Mafia is not that different from my play as town...
I can ask difficult questions and if they come from confirmed town they won't get shot down as "scummy". I, however, can also let the game develop without interfering in everything(so that it is more difficult for people to pocket me). I will not pressure everyone to vote my prefered selection - except maybe at the final one - because that will cause the game to go into inactivity.
Now, to the roles...
I will not submit Masons, ever. Mason is the worst possible pick:Masons will have TMI just like scum, and that is the reason why they are TERRIBLE. They dilute reads and allow(if made public, atrocious) Mafia to masonhunt by simply mafiahunting, obscuring everything but TMI until the Masons claim.
But what else I pick... that's up to me; I have a nice idea but it would be a bad idea to publicize it.

[House]

Fine
Just get this out of the way
VOTE: feys

+1 beer