Townstumps Mafia (Endgame)

[NorwegianboyEE]

NK15, i just don't think you would be convincing enough to be a stump. Like even right now i kinda feel like i'm skimming your posts.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m feeling spoilt from the mafia universe site. You can literally request an VC at anytime and it just posts automatically.
Is Koba hydra hammered? I’m too lazy to check.

[House]

I believe it is.

[Free Money Free Tea]

h
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[northsidegal]

i mean like uhhhhh cmon NSG don't be selfish.

it's not about being selfish or "getting power for myself" or anything

despite what you might think i actually do have respect for NM's play - in one of my earliest games he cop investigated two members of the scumteam, so i've always both had respect for his pr play and believed that his reads themselves are probably better than random.

given that moon doesn't want to be stumped, that reduces my options. i trust that dgb is good but don't really have a great personal idea of her play, so if her wagon gets close i'm fine with it. jjh i would like, but i also think that i can read him well, so that seems non-optimal. mastina i'd also vote for, but there seems to be no will there. so, given all that, i'm voting nm. it's not just so he leaves.

[northsidegal]

I’m feeling spoilt from the mafia universe site. You can literally request an VC at anytime and it just posts automatically.
Is Koba hydra hammered? I’m too lazy to check.

I believe it is.

it's 4/4 nm and hydra, if my count is right

[Titus]

Pro dodge

[Jingle]

Vote Count Stump.2.02

Not_Mafia (4):

KorVex, Not_Mafia, Moongrass, northsidegal,

Mia and Maya Fey (4):

Mia and Maya Fey, DrippingGoofball, House, nomnomnom,

DrippingGoofBall (2):

Titus, jjh927,

NorwegianboyEE (2):

mastina, NorwegianboyEE,

Free Money Free Tea (1):

Free Money Free Tea,

Not Known 15 (1):

Not Known 15,

Ineligible For Stumping (2):

Titus, northsidegal,

Not Voting (1):

Gamma Emerald,

With 15 alive, it takes

8

to stump.

The deadline for Tree 2 is in (expired on 2021-06-07 17:10:57). At Deadline, currently Not_Mafia will be Stumped.

[Not_Mafia]

Give me a chance to prove myself come on guys

[Not_Mafia]

I’m feeling spoilt from the mafia universe site. You can literally request an VC at anytime and it just posts automatically.
Is Koba hydra hammered? I’m too lazy to check.

Yeah but the people are dumb

[Jingle]

No pressure, but if stumps/people who are likely stump candidates tell me their plans on Roles I will be able to predesign some of the setup and likely start the game faster. This will also cut down on the risk of a stump not submitting a role and getting a VT, as the deadline post stumping is very short.

This has been your friendly neighborhood Jingle.

[Gamma Emerald]

Tbh I don’t wanna see masons not for any balance/gameplay reason, but that I think masons are kinda played out in stump games

[Moongrass]

I like mastina's reasoning, it's similar to mine for not wanting to be stumped. A signifcant portion of my reads come from the way I'm approached when players don't know my alignment.

VOTE: Norwegian

Sorry NM, I don't think you get majority here.

[House]

A commuter would be nice, though.

[Moongrass]

Some Hider variant would be fun.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm not spoiling anything but if i get stumped i do already have a pretty good idea of what i'd submit.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also i'd be like SUPER active if i'm stumped. To the end, and i'll read all posts.

[northsidegal]

VOTE: norwee

[Not Known 15]

VOTE: Norwegian
Superior choice to NM and the Mia hydra.

[Not_Mafia]

Let's make a deal, let's stump DGB and not Henrik Weebson

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why are you opposed N_M?
I promise i won't make an N_M targeting vigilante.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

VOTE: Norwegian
Superior choice to NM and the Mia hydra.

Who tf are you and whats your issue with us?

[mastina]

Mastina so convincing my god.

I do that sometimes!

And yet, people always seem to be surprised.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: norwegian
Not sure this is best but I’ll roll with this

[mastina]

A vote is not the deciding factor that mastina is claiming. Pressure is. An immortal town scumhunter with the ability to constantly influence votes is much more beneficial than a single vote that can be killed off.

And I am arguing that an immortal town scumhunter who lacks votes innately inherently has less ability to influence votes and generate pressure than a town scumhunter who has a vote, especially when that player is a pressure/high-aggro style player.

Constant influence might be constant, but it is something that generates a different aura. There is a big difference between influence without a vote and influence with a vote.

There is also a big difference between pressure with a vote and pressure without a vote.

I am also arguing that forcing scum to kill players whose votes are a threat is a feature not a flaw, and that treestumping said players is doing the scum a favor by removing the votes they would be most afraid of.