Mini Normal 2215: Deco [Complete]

[Roden]

T3 claimed, we need a flip to verify the information.

I'm not sure I follow the logic here. How does flipping someone who claims a town role help town? Aren't we just down a townie if he's telling the truth?

[T3]

Flipping me doesn't tell us the alignment of the cop.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Flipping me doesn't tell us the alignment of the cop.

I would find it very odd that the Mafia would have a Cop on their side, unless there is a traitor in the game.

If the cop does turn out to be Mafia-aligned, then that would point strongly to a vigilante in the game.

But all of this is IIOA, so I'll leave setup spec to someone else.

[T3]

If the cop is mafia then that points to traitors, such as when there was a bp miller in SE and 2 traitors.
If the cop is town then it's town.

[DrippingGoofball]

This is 2021 and setup speculation loses games for town, but go on.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm not sure I follow the logic here. How does flipping someone who claims a town role help town? Aren't we just down a townie if he's telling the truth?

Any scum worth its salt will claim a town role LOL. If he's telling the truth we're down a miller who shouldn't get close to end game anyway.

[Jake The Wolfie]

I'm not sure I follow the logic here. How does flipping someone who claims a town role help town? Aren't we just down a townie if he's telling the truth?

Any scum worth its salt will claim a town role LOL. If he's telling the truth we're down a miller who shouldn't get close to end game anyway.

1) No shit.

2) Being a Miller does not impact a player's ability to play the game. The skill of a player impacts a players ability to play the game.

3) You're proposing to execute a player on the basis that they both claimed to be informed and claimed to be a Miller, not on the basis that you genuinely thought they were scum. That is pretty autoincriminating, which makes me think that you're just pushing to kill a townie because you're scum.

[T3]

VOTE: DrippingGoofball
What possible reason do I have as scum to draw deliberate attention to myself by claiming miller. Also, if/when said macho 2-shot cop claims or dies then I will effectively be confirmed as town.
Yes, mods can be anti town. But just ignoring setup spec doesn't work.

[DrippingGoofball]

As if no scum has ever claimed miller before.

[DrippingGoofball]

You can just be informed scum.

[Jake The Wolfie]

DGB, get your head out of the realm of possibilities, and get it into the realm of what's probable.

Is it possible that T3 is Informed scum? Yes, it is. Is it likely? I don't know, probably not.
It's possible you're a multitasking Ninja Coptor Vigilante Roleblocker, but it is highly improbable.

[DrippingGoofball]

I don't trust this kind of speculation, I've been burned too many times. I learn and I adapt.

[Jake The Wolfie]

maybe you shouldn't try to act scummily while you do it.

[DrippingGoofball]

I have to say what needs to be said and I don't care how it comes off.

[Jake The Wolfie]

You're focusing on the possibilities rather than the probabilities, which is not something that we need to discuss right now.

[DrippingGoofball]

We can't even guess the probabilities these days - other than the odds of mod fuckery have increased 891%

[Jake The Wolfie]

all of this is pointless dribble, but more importantly you haven't justified why we should execute T3. Your attempt at justification is akin to "Well we should kill them to make sure they aren't lying.", as if that is a good strategy.

[Roden]

all of this is pointless dribble, but more importantly you haven't justified why we should execute T3. Your attempt at justification is akin to "Well we should kill them to make sure they aren't lying.", as if that is a good strategy.

This is more or less my issue with it. Thing is, idk if DGB actually is scum here because it just seems too blatant and risky. Like, what does scum get out of doing this? I just don't understand the logic here.

[Jake The Wolfie]

all of this is pointless dribble, but more importantly you haven't justified why we should execute T3. Your attempt at justification is akin to "Well we should kill them to make sure they aren't lying.", as if that is a good strategy.

This is more or less my issue with it. Thing is, idk if DGB actually is scum here because it just seems too blatant and risky. Like, what does scum get out of doing this? I just don't understand the logic here.

I think this was a failed attempt to get a free exe on a townie.

[Roden]

Possibly yeah. But it's just wild to think somebody's scum gameplan would be "Vote this person out because I said so." And then execute the plan in the scummiest way possible. Like, I don't see how they could possibly think the rest of us would just listen to them and do as they say. Granted, I don't see it as a town mindset either. Maybe I'm just overthinking it and DGB really did just make a blatantly scummy play and hoped for the best.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Possibly yeah. But it's just wild to think somebody's scum gameplan would be "Vote this person out because I said so." And then execute the plan in the scummiest way possible. Like, I don't see how they could possibly think the rest of us would just listen to them and do as they say. Granted, I don't see it as a town mindset either. Maybe I'm just overthinking it and DGB really did just make a blatantly scummy play and hoped for the best.

I could totally see DGB here being a traitor role and hoping that the Mafia pick up on it.

[VFP]

What's this mean?

It's just the names from page 1.

[VFP]

We're not limming T3 today though.
I'm happy with my vote on DGB.

[Roden]

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

Gave it some thought, DGB being traitor is a pretty compelling case imo. It would explain their actions at the very least.

[T3]

Possibly yeah. But it's just wild to think somebody's scum gameplan would be "Vote this person out because I said so." And then execute the plan in the scummiest way possible. Like, I don't see how they could possibly think the rest of us would just listen to them and do as they say. Granted, I don't see it as a town mindset either. Maybe I'm just overthinking it and DGB really did just make a blatantly scummy play and hoped for the best.

I could totally see DGB here being a traitor role and hoping that the Mafia pick up on it.

I think in every single normal I've completed except the Datisi doctor one had traitors, so that would make sense.