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Post Post #3750 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:00 am

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shouldn't Not Mafia have dissipated when anya was eliminated? how was the doppelganger even a valid target?

i saw someone confirm he was last night but i can't find it now.
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Post Post #3751 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:02 am

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Also: why was it 13 to eliminate yesterday?
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Post Post #3752 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:03 am

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In post 3501, morph the cat wrote:
In post 3497, Bingle wrote:Wait, did Arte claim she targeted N_M over the night phase?
Yes. And according to the mod, we (morph) could have targeted it last night as well.

That part checks out.
right, it's here. so morph says NM was still a valid target last night.

i don't understand why Arte's claim went from "check a player's alignment against myself" to "check two target's alignments against each other, can't target myself."
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Post Post #3753 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:04 am

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In post 3751, Dunnstral wrote:Also: why was it 13 to eliminate yesterday?
because that's a simple majority of 24?
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Post Post #3754 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:06 am

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In post 3752, Chara wrote:
In post 3501, morph the cat wrote:
In post 3497, Bingle wrote:Wait, did Arte claim she targeted N_M over the night phase?
Yes. And according to the mod, we (morph) could have targeted it last night as well.

That part checks out.
right, it's here. so morph says NM was still a valid target last night.

i don't understand why Arte's claim went from "check a player's alignment against myself" to "check two target's alignments against each other, can't target myself."
Because someone pointed out something about the mod stating you cant self target in this game, so Artemiana backtracked. She got caught in a lie basically.
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Post Post #3755 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:12 am

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Artemenia's claim would not require self targetting

It was 13 to elim with 23 alive
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Post Post #3756 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:12 am

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i mean, yeah..... Arte was very explicit about self-targeting multiple times and then just changed it to saying she targeted the doppel after a brief break.
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Post Post #3757 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:13 am

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And why did the doppelganger appear at a time that wasn't the start of the day
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Post Post #3758 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:13 am

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In post 3755, Dunnstral wrote:Artemenia's claim would not require self targetting

It was 13 to elim with 23 alive
oh, right, i forgot about the survivor death. huh.
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Post Post #3759 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:20 am

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like, the rest of Arte's claim looks pretty legitimate, i want to believe what she's saying and how she's saying it, but i can't with that big change she just has not explained.
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Post Post #3760 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:24 am

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In post 3759, Chara wrote:like, the rest of Arte's claim looks pretty legitimate, i want to believe what she's saying and how she's saying it, but i can't with that big change she just has not explained.
Pretend you have a husband and he tells that last night he was working until late last night, but you know that he was not as you saw him with his friends and a few girls at a sport bar and you tell him, then he says, that that was work too, hence why he was up until late.

Would you believe him?
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Post Post #3761 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:53 am

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In post 3713, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3281, morph the cat wrote:If that was a vig shot onto STD, you had better have a GOOD GODDAMN reason, we got his wraith-fruit last night and the last 48 hours of day one he was BLEEDING town.
Do you still care about this?
it would be good to know if town had something to do with it.

It wasn't my initial thought when I saw 2 flips, but I'm a little worried STP was a bonus scum kill via removing HP.
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Post Post #3762 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:57 am

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DOES EVERYONE SEE ALL THIS INSANE BANTER AROUND NM

THE SAME POINTS BEING BROUGHT UP, THE SAME QUESTIONS BEING ASKED

ALL THIS ENDLESS WIFOM

and you all are wondering why I lied.

He's a copy of anya, I could target him and I did.
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Post Post #3763 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:58 am

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In post 3714, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3630, WhemeStar wrote:Okay so my innate ability allows me to see stuff that may have happened to my target.

I target sigmund last night

I got - Alone but troubled. The scenery is filled with clouds. He tries his best, but his best was not needed.

ANYONE WANNA HELP TELL ME WTF THIS MEANS
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In post 3658, Bell wrote:The wheme dream thing,
Sigmund was not targeted by anyone and he tried to protect someone and missed.
I have an associates in dream interpretation (this is a lie) so you can trust me.
We targeted Sigmund and were told we were successful.
Is this not a counterclaim of sorts?

My interpretation is that Wheme saw sigmund attempt to protect somebody with their action, but their action wasn't needed (no night kill on target)

Except they claimed "follower", but sigmund is seen alone even though Morph targeted them
I thought I might be counterclaiming when I posted, but I wasn't sure and I'm still not sure.

I don't think wheme claimed follower, though he did nix watcher.

I wonder if anyone else gets investigative results in narrative form.
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Post Post #3764 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:00 am

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In post 3754, Guillotina wrote:Because someone pointed out something about the mod stating you cant self target in this game
That's not what happened.

The original wording I used was weird, the original wording I used was "I could compare another's alignment to myself"

Because I didn't want to talk about the fact that my active ability requires me to target two separate targets
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Post Post #3765 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:00 am

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In post 3754, Guillotina wrote:Because someone pointed out something about the mod stating you cant self target in this game
That's not what happened.

The original wording I used was weird, the original wording I used was "I could compare another's alignment to myself"

Because I didn't want to talk about the fact that my active ability requires me to target two separate targets
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Post Post #3766 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:02 am

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Also can someone tell me why children wake up before the sun even does
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Post Post #3767 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:04 am

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In post 3752, Chara wrote:
In post 3501, morph the cat wrote:
In post 3497, Bingle wrote:Wait, did Arte claim she targeted N_M over the night phase?
Yes. And according to the mod, we (morph) could have targeted it last night as well.

That part checks out.
right, it's here. so morph says NM was still a valid target last night.

i don't understand why Arte's claim went from "check a player's alignment against myself" to "check two target's alignments against each other, can't target myself."
If you have an active ability you should be able to ask unwnd for yourself if you could have targeted NM last night. Goes for anyone who wants to confirm/dispute what we said.
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Post Post #3768 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:09 am

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In post 3765, Artemiana wrote:
In post 3754, Guillotina wrote:Because someone pointed out something about the mod stating you cant self target in this game
That's not what happened.

The original wording I used was weird, the original wording I used was "I could compare another's alignment to myself"

Because I didn't want to talk about the fact that my active ability requires me to target two separate targets
I don't know what you think about your sentence is different from what guillotina is saying.
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Post Post #3769 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:10 am

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Nobody had pointed out that mod said the lack of self-targeting abilitird
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Post Post #3770 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:12 am

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Ok but thats not really the point?
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Post Post #3771 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:12 am

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I don't even really understand how he came to the conclusion that roles such as mine generally can't self target because I had to ask him about it.

This is all semantics though and an argument about semantics is just about the last thing I want to be doing
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Post Post #3772 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:13 am

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In post 3728, Chara wrote:
In post 3372, Titus wrote:Rocket Fist Chara removed 1 hp from the game - innate
Data Mined NDMath (2 sp) - Blocked NDMath from regenerating SP.
why didn't you target me with both abilities?

not that i'm complaining i guess.
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Post Post #3773 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:14 am

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In post 3750, Chara wrote:shouldn't Not Mafia have dissipated when anya was eliminated? how was the doppelganger even a valid target?

i saw someone confirm he was last night but i can't find it now.
That's what I felt.

I feel the mod is in a place where if they answer it confirms a player as scum, so he won't answer publicly.
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Post Post #3774 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:15 am

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In post 3519, Bingle wrote:Okay, yeah, Arte is locktown.

I very much doubt that scum would've been scared off by my softing PGO, but I was 100% doing that all day yesterday.
This is stupid. Any alignment would be scared of a PGO crumb.
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