Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -

[Thestatusquo]

Mara gave me the hope of validating one of my reads in the way you've been validated and it was snatched away from me in a game where everything I've thought has been garbage so I'm just really pissed right now.

[Thestatusquo]

Kind of just want to yeet both of them out of spite at this point and frankly morph from d1 too but thats why I'm not allowing myself to vote until later.

[Chara]

at least morph is validating me. while being a GAMBIT ENABLER

now to think about whether shea actually believes Titus could be guiltied off of anya's fake player.

pedit: lmao. i don't know. mafia. *jazz hands*

definitely not the fake guilty. I'm just not seeing the town read y'all have.

you argued earlier that Arte was occam's razor town and therefore Titus was scum. i'm referring to them, when the claim wasn't officially retracted.

[morph the cat]

really pissed right now

This seems to be mood for a bunch of players and I'm sorry for my contributions thereof.

I'm sticking to day play and shit now. I wanted to be xenoblade cabd but xenoblade cabd had more drugs and less gambits.

[Ircher]

Hot Take: Titus/Artemia/Morph I think there are at least two scum here.

+1

[Thestatusquo]

at least morph is validating me. while being a GAMBIT ENABLER

now to think about whether shea actually believes Titus could be guiltied off of anya's fake player.

pedit: lmao. i don't know. mafia. *jazz hands*

definitely not the fake guilty. I'm just not seeing the town read y'all have.

you argued earlier that Arte was occam's razor town and therefore Titus was scum. i'm referring to them, when the claim wasn't officially retracted.

at the point where the claim was real I thought that was true.

[Chara]

Mara gave me the hope of validating one of my reads in the way you've been validated and it was snatched away from me in a game where everything I've thought has been garbage so I'm just really pissed right now.

i won't be really validated without a Titus flip anyway, i don't have much confidence atm.

pedit: ok.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

This game sucks lol

[Chara]

hi LLD. i'm still thinking about sheeping you but i've had a second wind so it won't be blind. also i might be on your list so lmao.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I feel semi compelled to kill Arte for lying on principle and because I don't want to have to question it down the road.

[Bingle]

Also ffery says something about giving you the Ax, but not the Axe, as that stays with sigmund.

VOTE: ircher

For serious, though, I'm not actually sure I want Ircher right now. We've had like 0 conversation about things that actually scumhunting today and while I still maintain that Ircher has not towntold once and jjh was independently scummy, I do want to explore why people think Sigmund is still alive, hear from LLD, and get more content from some of our less readable slots.

I think Wheme's confusion/claim is probably more likely to be expressed in thread as town, and I don't think he's lying about getting that message. Titus could be scum, but any wagon that goes there right now is just going to be a pile of murky :lolmechshit: that's impossible to analyze later. I kinda want to pressure some of the less readable slots into taking stances today and look at how the Flea/Sigmund/Anya interplay actually worked knowing now that Anya was a scum wagon.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

hi LLD. i'm still thinking about sheeping you but i've had a second wind so it won't be blind. also i might be on your list so lmao.

I prefer this cause it makes me more able to read you. You are on my list to solve today to be sure but yeah this will help me sort you.

[Something_Smart]

I'm sticking to day play and shit now.

What's your read on me?

[Farkran]

I still refuse to believe that the duplicate mechanic could give miller results, especially after it has been confirmed that NM could be targeted last night

I also refuse to believe that town! artemiana does a fake guilty gambit on titus of all people, it's an extremely dangerous move for no reason at all because even if it is correct it's going to be a liability later

And i have a very, very hard time believing that scum!artemiana pulls up a fake guilty on a controversial player like titus (controversial = not universally townread, not a threatening role, not a town leader), that's suicidal and almost literally against wincon because if titus flips town, at least i am going to lim artemiana immediately with no second thoughts

People arguing otherwise are worrying me (mostly looking at chara and morph right now)

[Chara]

i agree that Ircher hasn't towntold.

my thought for why Sigmund is still alive is 1) he is miselimmable and scum decided to give him another day, and they killed someone who would never have been a doc protect, or 2) the obvious he is scum.

i feel Wheme's been nothing but towny and i believe his claim. and i think Flea is more likely scum than Sigmund, if either are, looking at how both of their wagons went when put next to anya.

[Artemiana]

Goddammit

[Thestatusquo]

I still refuse to believe that the duplicate mechanic could give miller results, especially after it has been confirmed that NM could be targeted last night

I also refuse to believe that town! artemiana does a fake guilty gambit on titus of all people, it's an extremely dangerous move for no reason at all because even if it is correct it's going to be a liability later

And i have a very, very hard time believing that scum!artemiana pulls up a fake guilty on a controversial player like titus (controversial = not universally townread, not a threatening role, not a town leader), that's suicidal and almost literally against wincon because if titus flips town, at least i am going to lim artemiana immediately with no second thoughts

People arguing otherwise are worrying me (mostly looking at chara and morph right now)

She has literally admitted it was fake.

[Artemiana]

VOTE: dunnstral

[Chara]

I still refuse to believe that the duplicate mechanic could give miller results, especially after it has been confirmed that NM could be targeted last night

I also refuse to believe that town! artemiana does a fake guilty gambit on titus of all people, it's an extremely dangerous move for no reason at all because even if it is correct it's going to be a liability later

And i have a very, very hard time believing that scum!artemiana pulls up a fake guilty on a controversial player like titus (controversial = not universally townread, not a threatening role, not a town leader), that's suicidal and almost literally against wincon because if titus flips town, at least i am going to lim artemiana immediately with no second thoughts

People arguing otherwise are worrying me (mostly looking at chara and morph right now)

what do you think i'm arguing?

[Artemiana]

i agree that Ircher hasn't towntold.

my thought for why Sigmund is still alive is 1) he is miselimmable and scum decided to give him another day, and they killed someone who would never have been a doc protect, or 2) the obvious he is scum.

i feel Wheme's been nothing but towny and i believe his claim. and i think Flea is more likely scum than Sigmund, if either are, looking at how both of their wagons went when put next to anya.

You think a scum wagon countered another scum wagon?

[Chara]

oh, you're not caught up. yeah, it was fake.

[Chara]

i agree that Ircher hasn't towntold.

my thought for why Sigmund is still alive is 1) he is miselimmable and scum decided to give him another day, and they killed someone who would never have been a doc protect, or 2) the obvious he is scum.

i feel Wheme's been nothing but towny and i believe his claim. and i think Flea is more likely scum than Sigmund, if either are, looking at how both of their wagons went when put next to anya.

You think a scum wagon countered another scum wagon?

"if either are scum"
Sigmund's wagon was easier to build when anya became a real option than Flea's.

[Chara]

also i don't believe in this idea that only scum can build wagons. town have the ability to build a scum counterwagon to scum, in a general sense. two groups of town arguing over reads and them both being scum is a thing that happens.

[Thestatusquo]

also i don't believe in this idea that only scum can build wagons. town have the ability to build a scum counterwagon to scum, in a general sense. two groups of town arguing over reads and them both being scum is a thing that happens.

this is the general problem with wagonomics writ large. Also, town vs town wagons happen all the time too.

[Bingle]

You think a scum wagon countered another scum wagon?

It's possible. It's actually why I tr LLD as hard as I do. LLD can bus if she wants to, but

I

was pushing the Sigmund wagon hard. If there's ever a free pass to sheep wrong town, it's when the IC is the wrong town and LLD specifically didn't take that out.