Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -

[Dunnstral]

hi LLD. i'm still thinking about sheeping you but i've had a second wind so it won't be blind. also i might be on your list so lmao.

I prefer this cause it makes me more able to read you. You are on my list to solve today to be sure but yeah this will help me sort you.

I would like to go over this list to solve before I commit to anything today

Right now I am at:
Morph town based on play
Chara feels town
S_S and Whemestar to the north of null
Guillotina towny
I at least have good feelings about TSQ right now, though this isn't a very strong read due to how fakeable I feel this can be
And Bell is towny
I have you as strong town and of course there's Bingle
And yeah, Titus makes sense as town to me based on their targets. I still think they're holding something back in their role claim and that I wasn't wrong about that.

Middle of the pack reads where I'm not taking a hard town or scum stance:
Farkran
Sigmund (They have the wagon situation and claim d1 in their favor)
Notscience
Artemenia
Flea (almost a scumread)

Leaving me with the following players as scum:
White Fire
MURDERCAT
NDMath
Ircher

[Dunnstral]

NDMath read is a lot of poe and I don't really want to go there today

[Chara]

i'm shouldn't be overly negative because i'm not particularly mad at Arte about it, that isn't the idea i want out there.

but i do want to point out i did ask anyone earlier today who is scumreading Titus to try and convince me out of the townread because i was worried i was on the wrong track again and all i've gotten out of the day is a fake guilty on her instead and a bunch of slots saying she's still scummy.

[Ircher]

The interactions with the fake guilty alone is more than enough to show Titus is scum here. That was 100% a SvS interaction.
Aside from that, she's all over the place, and I think that's because she wants to throw us all off. She may be known for her moon logic, but this isn't that; it's just utter chaos. I don't think she's scumhunting; she is merely trying to give off the impression she is.

[Chara]

Dunn: why do you TR SS? also curious about your non-poe scumreads, but mostly Ircher, and what the difference is between poe scum and just null in your list.

[Chara]

The interactions with the fake guilty alone is more than enough to show Titus is scum here. That was 100% a SvS interaction.
Aside from that, she's all over the place, and I think that's because she wants to throw us all off. She may be known for her moon logic, but this isn't that; it's just utter chaos. I don't think she's scumhunting; she is merely trying to give off the impression she is.

can you give some examples of her being all over the place? i recognize that you're talking about her play making that difficult but her play and reads have not felt chaotic to me.

[notscience]

Dunn you know you can interact with me to try and read me better right

[White Fire]

hey dunn u gonna respond to me or what

[White Fire]

Also notsci i wanted to battle u with words not with votes. My vote punches aren't that strong.

[notscience]

Also notsci i wanted to battle u with words not with votes. My vote punches aren't that strong.

Neither are your words

Boom roasted

(Jk you rock fire)

[Sigmund]

I'm gonna catch up with this game at some point in my life

[WhemeStar]

VOTE: NDMath

Dunn votes are bad

[Bell]

..............
Ugh

[Flea The Magician]

Try being 20 pages behind, also Dunn votes are always good, no doubt he's still wearing his drill out on me.

[Ircher]

Flea, vote Titus please.

[Flea The Magician]

Already am. That said, with what I'm reading I wont be for long -.-;

[Ircher]

You should stay. Just because the claim got retracted doesn't mean Titus is innocent. She's still very culpable from the interaction alone.

[Flea The Magician]

*Suspicious*

[Flea The Magician]

UNVOTE: Titus

With where Im at, I ain't comfortable keeping the titus vote on.

[Artemiana]

I think Titus is a diamond

[morph the cat]

Dunn, have you played much with Farkran?

[Flea The Magician]

ok about to drop from sleepiness and I got a long day tomorrow where I'll have limited access. like I got sleep hiccoughs and they' annoying lol

Wow 20 behind... and this is after Cyberpunk because frankly I've had a stupidly shitty day to start my week of. No rest for the wicked I guess.

Xandria - Ship of Doom

Spoiler: Oh when the sun goes down, and the moon comes up

Link page where you crumbed and how it makes you 100% town.

My crumbs don't make me 100% town. They're just existing preguilty. I planned on crumbing my targets in case SP and HP tracking were important.

I like this. Shame about the guilty.

I would not have been able to act tonight if I did not sap SP from someone else

I chose morph the cat because PENULTIMATE

and I made the assumption that I probably wouldn't have just delayed whatever it is that they could do to the second night stratum.

Neither head are dependant on their roles to win a game (except maybe neighbor as scum manipulative as they are) so their efficacy was not reduced

Also, my active ability allows me to see if two targets share an alignment or not

Nice

I did not rely on my rocks as I thought I would, but relied on the obv doppelganger after the ninja flip

uhm... oh gods please tell me you didn't...

Spoiler: Our story will be told

Mara.

Literally only reply yes or no to this post.

"I targeted Not_mafia and Titus, and was told they share an alignment"

Yes, or no?

Yes

oh gods you did...

Oh, right, I should say as someone who is primarily mechanically oriented:

I endorse absolutely 0 other role claims. There may or may not be other functional aspects to my role and I will not be claiming any of them. I think it is incredibly likely that scum have alternative methods of damaging town players and as such tipping your hand on powers is real bad. I don't think that protecting me tonight is a valuable use of our resources, nor do I want any invention esque abilities. In fact, if you're town you will not target me at all for any reason.

Ngl

This terrified the shit out of me and made me go from "OH HEY IC YES, EASY COP" to "FUCK, would unwnd make a cop check this easy to without consequences"

Legit, was wondering this and glad I saw the array of questions on this.

It’s a cop check you most likely only use every other night

I don’t think it’s as strong as everyone else is making it out to be

I wouldn't even call it a cop check, it's a PoE check.

Sigmund is in the morph masonry with Bingle et al.

Whats this mean

In our top tier town, the "would self-vote first" townreads.

Questionable place to put him.

Spoiler: Oh when they call our names and we raise our cups

Okay, yeah, Arte is locktown.

I very much doubt that scum would've been scared off by my softing PGO, but I was 100% doing that all day yesterday.

Yes.

Yes she is.

Her thought patterns work out.

I can see the progression to "can't use the IC, let's use the doppelgänger" but unfortunately the doppelgänger isn't mafia-aligned by default it would seem, from what I can grok of the questions I can get answered.

We (both heads sync) townread both ends if this interaction.

This is where I'm at, that the maf-created doppleganger and Titus aren't aligned imo clears Titus. To me the whatever it is would have mafia alignment.

Well dw I’m still town

I’m just out of flashlights

Gonna have to follow moonlight

ngl I need a chilly, clear night with a full moon illuminating all around me, sounds like fking heaven rn that does...

Doesn’t this require a lot of assumptions on what his alignment was

ngl I'm going on the assumption that the thing is maf aligned.

If Titus is making sense she’s more likely scum

So there’s that

not quite, Titus often makes sense to me but I think I have a way to read her.

Bell, you're being a very gassy fast food joint right now. Please stop putting yourself into my lines of questioning to the thread writ large or I'm going to make ffery take away your kibble.

Minion-esque giggling

Spoiler: We are bound to the Ship of Doom

Yo morph like i get it you have lines of questioning you want to do but this isn't a 1v6 with x NPCs. People have just as much right to post in the thread and talk as you do.

This is beginning to feel very much like playing pandemic and one player keeps trying to take everyone's turns for them and it's annoying the crap out of me.

This is a coop not a two player.

Godsdaaaang...

*Grabs the Mocha pot and portable stove out of the picnic basket*

To be fair, I have never been in a game where LLD didn't whiff on the second elimination.

And the Brass Monkey award goes to...

I would assume the alignment is the same alignment as the the player who cast it, and that looks to be Anya. Yeah?

Yup. So scum?

Then Titus is scum, if that's the case.

And if it's null? Then Arte is scum for lying.

But there's no case that N_M shows up as a townie right? Either he's a mirage and the answer should have been NO.

or he's not and reads as scum, and then we have a guilty situation where one of them is scum anyway.

that's how I read this

uh... I need to recheck the claim...

MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM!!

It's a straight cop guilty.

I'm a hexer.

My innate ability allows me to absorb SP and my one ability allows me to compare an alignment of another to my own with the cost of 3 SP

I choose a person with my active skill and am told if we share an alignment.

Not sure how much further I can go without stating ver batum

I did not rely on my rocks as I thought I would, but relied on the obv doppelganger after the ninja flip

I can't self target. I wish I could, would have made the game easier which is why I need rocks

Role: Hexer

Sapping curse:
Absorbs SP from another player
Conflict words: compares the alignment of two players

Arte please tell me somewhere you reaveal if you got aligned or unaligned, because I'm not liking this

I need to step back from the game and think about things, given that I have many conflicting thoughts atm. I will be reading along, just probably not quite so active the next few days.

frikken you an me both. AND I'M IN CATCHUP.

[Flea The Magician]

Spoiler: We will call you all together

I thought you were softing a pgo in addition to what you had

Ah yes, PGO IC is a fun and balanced role.

I can hear the grand idea threads calling...

I don't like the feeling that we're being herded down the turbolim tunnel here.

Something feels VERY wrong and our hives are out in full force.

I think we should definitely elim Titus today, but I'd like for the day to play out more before rushing into the elim

Why? With the information we have here, why?

This is a lot of words for you to basically state that you scum read Guillotina for his play style. While I agree that it would be nice if Guillotina didn't make everything revolve around himself, that isn't the case, and you should adjust your reads accordingly. I find this especially troubling since you have recently played with town Guillotina.

This is why I like trying to pocket guillotina :3 it's fun and I get different results every time.

Not nearly as much.

Not necessarily; I know that I do it about the same as both alignments. (Probably more as town, just because I generally post a little more on average as town.)

But, I recall Dunn having a fairly aggressive scumgame (though it's been a long time since I've played against it), so he may not see it the same way I do.

We have very different experiences with dunnscum.

Spoiler: We will bring you fantasies

WELL WILL YOU LOOK AT THAT

ITS A LION

A LION THAT DEFINTELY IS NOT ME

Morph, Bingle, Shea, LLD, Bell, Guillo

If each of you had my rolecard how would each of you use tonight

You're going to main slip soon at this rate xD

Spoiler: We are born from Smoke and Fire

I don't believe town saps SP from someone on N0 without considering that the target may be a protective/cop that will need the SP later to perform their action. I'm a wild card, a loose cannon and even I wouldn't do any N0 actions as town, the fact that you claim that you did looked questionable to me.
And then, your "Conflict Words" claim, you said that you could self target and then you backtracked... I don't trust you.

On the rooftops shaht it aht, REALLY AM REALLY A WILDCAAAAAAARD

You keep swinging that around you're going to take someones eye out. just saying.

Okay so my innate ability allows me to see stuff that may have happened to my target.

I target sigmund last night

I got - Alone but troubled. The scenery is filled with clouds. He tries his best, but his best was not needed.

ANYONE WANNA HELP TELL ME WTF THIS MEANS

It means sigmund wasn't targetted by a person and probably either self-actioned or action failed.

Also i should be obv town now so whoever povs me you're wrong

I hate when people do this. You're not PoV'd because #ChallengeAccepted.

Okay so my innate ability allows me to see stuff that may have happened to my target.

I target sigmund last night

I got - Alone but troubled. The scenery is filled with clouds. He tries his best, but his best was not needed.

ANYONE WANNA HELP TELL ME WTF THIS MEANS

Uhhh

No one visited them and they submitted an action but it was unsuccessful?

Maybe?

IDFK that is some cryptic shit

Thats why I think scum has a roleblocker? Thats all I could get out of it is that he was roleblocked.

You'd see a visitor if there was a roleblocker, unless there's a ninja modifier but then you'd have no clue at all.

Spoiler: We will sail the Seven Seas

Heres a fun scenario

I use my "conftown status" to shield town faer from elimination, jump on a bus early to achieve that hard core white knighting, bus right out the gate and play an amazing theatrical show with my partner.

So now I'm one of 4 scum remaining and its only d3

I buy myself another day by claiming I can't take an action on the second night but then I'm expected to give a result on said 4 game day

I mean, I don't like your shenangians around the day start but I still think you're town.

[Flea The Magician]

and a last one....

I should also apologize i guess because I csn actually admit, me holding a TPR has made me menace in said game

honestly, you're blending in pretty well with the madness here as a result

I use my "conftown status" to shield town faer from elimination

Town faer?

*waves*

Arte just uses my pronouns instead of my name kinda cute ^_^

[WhemeStar]

Im not going to lie I have not read one flea spoiler post.