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Post Post #550 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:29 pm

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In post 511, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:VOTE: jjh
You need to relax my guy. We get it, you're showing you're scumhunting.
This is an awful start
You're accusing me of being more interested in showing people that I am scumhunting than actually scumhunting. Driving the production of content is a serious pro-town motive for what you have accused me of here
In post 517, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:
In post 514, Moongrass wrote:
In post 511, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:VOTE: jjh
You need to relax my guy. We get it, you're showing you're scumhunting.
In post 512, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:
In post 510, Moongrass wrote:
In post 509, Free Money Free Tea wrote:mastina supposedly reads the nonposters as null... then has the nonposter hydra as scum.
Tbh I was scumreading hydra for not posting yet. I was expecting the thread to blow up with them in it.
What are my active site hours?
No idea, that's why I didn't push it. I can see some reason to mastina's reads though.
Then what was your purpose in shading a slot that has yet to post?
It sounds like you are trying to preemptively set up a negative opinion of us and create an expectation.
I hope dearly that's not what you were trying to do, that'd be quite scummy.
Shady shady shade. This is a really bad take in that you are implying Moongrass could be scum for something they considered but didn't actually say.

In post 519, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:If i discourage opinion specifically from you jjh will that make us scum?
Good old fashioned discredit laced with sarcasm


In post 527, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:
In post 524, Moongrass wrote:VOTE: Mia and Maya Fey
VOTE: moongrass
Shame, i was hoping to get more out of you before you cracked from pressure. Seems you're a bundle of nerves.
This feels like you are pretending you are in control when in fact this is pretty much just your attempt at disguising a basic OMGUS vote
In post 530, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:
In post 525, jjh927 wrote:VOTE: Mia and Maya Fey
hook line and sinker :)
As above, people are now voting you and you are trying to pretend you are in control and that this was all part of some master plan



In post 536, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:jjh, i asked you already, what do you hate about our posts?
Is it the fact nancy beat your scumteam just recently and you thought calling her illogical in this pregame was a good idea while she was kicking your ass?
You want to link me to this game you're talking about? The only scumgame I've played in recent memory was just announced as a scum win
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Post Post #551 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:30 pm

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In post 547, mastina wrote:
In post 502, Moongrass wrote:Are readlists usually produced this early for you mastina?
Yes, and I'm dead serious about this:

VOTE: Mia and Maya Fey

It's still possible that they are town for one simple reason. (A reason I'm not sharing right now.) But I actually legit think they're scum.
Why am I scum?
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Post Post #552 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:30 pm

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In post 549, Moongrass wrote:
In post 545, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:I'll just drop that scum think I'm an easy push in games because I am very aggressive and have an unorthodox playstyle. I would surely hope that isn't any of you trying to shade me right now.
How is this not screaming scum to you NSG? Lol. It's actually kind of sad.
What's scummy about it? You have yet to answer a SINGLE question about why. What is my scum motivation with this post?
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Post Post #553 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:30 pm

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In post 549, Moongrass wrote:
In post 545, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:I'll just drop that scum think I'm an easy push in games because I am very aggressive and have an unorthodox playstyle. I would surely hope that isn't any of you trying to shade me right now.
How is this not screaming scum to you NSG? Lol. It's actually kind of sad.
i'm pretty much deferring from reading the hydra until nancy posts more, which i think is probably a higher reliability strategy.
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Post Post #554 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:31 pm

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It basically says "It's scummy to push me so you shouldn't do it" but in more words
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Post Post #555 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:31 pm

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In post 538, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:it looks like threat assessment to me rather than actual sorting.
This is the only thing I've thought might be a genuine town thought. Everything else is trash.
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Post Post #556 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:31 pm

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In post 505, House wrote:mastina, why am I scum?
I'm not sure you are, but you aren't feeling town to me and jjh was voting you and jjh is town here so it was the best vote I could think of.

It's also been literally years since we played together and I don't recall you being a player I could soulread even when we did play together. So I'm both a bit skeptical that I could read you well and even if I could I'm sure that ability has long since left me.

That said, I don't exactly have you as lockscum; there's a very good chance that if you're town it'll show through eventually.

It's just that right now I'm not seeing it.
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Post Post #557 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:32 pm

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In post 553, northsidegal wrote:
In post 549, Moongrass wrote:
In post 545, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:I'll just drop that scum think I'm an easy push in games because I am very aggressive and have an unorthodox playstyle. I would surely hope that isn't any of you trying to shade me right now.
How is this not screaming scum to you NSG? Lol. It's actually kind of sad.
i'm pretty much deferring from reading the hydra until nancy posts more, which i think is probably a higher reliability strategy.
Yeah that makes sense.
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Post Post #558 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:34 pm

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In post 509, Free Money Free Tea wrote:mastina supposedly reads the nonposters as null... then has the nonposter hydra as scum.
A mastina readslist is never a mastina readslist unless it sorts nonposters in different locations. :P

But yes, in this case I actually
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have a reason for placing Mia and Maya Fey that low.
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In post 509, Free Money Free Tea wrote:mastina supposedly reads the nonposters as null... then has the nonposter hydra as scum.
Tbh I was scumreading hydra for not posting yet. I was expecting the thread to blow up with them in it.
In part because of this, yes. :P
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Post Post #559 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:34 pm

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In post 550, jjh927 wrote:
In post 511, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:VOTE: jjh
You need to relax my guy. We get it, you're showing you're scumhunting.
This is an awful start
You're accusing me of being more interested in showing people that I am scumhunting than actually scumhunting. Driving the production of content is a serious pro-town motive for what you have accused me of here
In post 517, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:
In post 514, Moongrass wrote:
In post 511, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:VOTE: jjh
You need to relax my guy. We get it, you're showing you're scumhunting.
In post 512, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:
In post 510, Moongrass wrote:
In post 509, Free Money Free Tea wrote:mastina supposedly reads the nonposters as null... then has the nonposter hydra as scum.
Tbh I was scumreading hydra for not posting yet. I was expecting the thread to blow up with them in it.
What are my active site hours?
No idea, that's why I didn't push it. I can see some reason to mastina's reads though.
Then what was your purpose in shading a slot that has yet to post?
It sounds like you are trying to preemptively set up a negative opinion of us and create an expectation.
I hope dearly that's not what you were trying to do, that'd be quite scummy.
Shady shady shade. This is a really bad take in that you are implying Moongrass could be scum for something they considered but didn't actually say.

In post 519, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:If i discourage opinion specifically from you jjh will that make us scum?
Good old fashioned discredit laced with sarcasm


In post 527, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:
In post 524, Moongrass wrote:VOTE: Mia and Maya Fey
VOTE: moongrass
Shame, i was hoping to get more out of you before you cracked from pressure. Seems you're a bundle of nerves.
This feels like you are pretending you are in control when in fact this is pretty much just your attempt at disguising a basic OMGUS vote
In post 530, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:
In post 525, jjh927 wrote:VOTE: Mia and Maya Fey
hook line and sinker :)
As above, people are now voting you and you are trying to pretend you are in control and that this was all part of some master plan



In post 536, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:jjh, i asked you already, what do you hate about our posts?
Is it the fact nancy beat your scumteam just recently and you thought calling her illogical in this pregame was a good idea while she was kicking your ass?
You want to link me to this game you're talking about? The only scumgame I've played in recent memory was just announced as a scum win

I get voted every d1, whats your point? You know nothing about me.
What do you think of moon?
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Post Post #560 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:35 pm

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Moon is town
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Post Post #561 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:36 pm

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In post 554, jjh927 wrote:It basically says "It's scummy to push me so you shouldn't do it" but in more words
Yeah I'm manipulating the gamestate around our slot, whats your point?
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Post Post #562 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:36 pm

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I'll be looking at this later.

There's also a good chance I'll have to vla soon. I'll know more later this week.
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Post Post #563 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:36 pm

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In post 556, mastina wrote:
In post 505, House wrote:mastina, why am I scum?
I'm not sure you are, but you aren't feeling town to me and jjh was voting you and jjh is town here so it was the best vote I could think of.

It's also been literally years since we played together and I don't recall you being a player I could soulread even when we did play together. So I'm both a bit skeptical that I could read you well and even if I could I'm sure that ability has long since left me.

That said, I don't exactly have you as lockscum; there's a very good chance that if you're town it'll show through eventually.

It's just that right now I'm not seeing it.
Nah, I'm not buying that for one simple reason.

Our first game together, you called me town out of nowhere when I was being wagoned and sold it. You're townread of me was based on a lack of scum notice in my incredibly scummy playstyle. You had zero history with me.

That's what so impressed me about your skill. It's very rare to find a player that hunts for motive instead of pigeon-holing actions as "scummy" or "towny".

I'm not seeing that here, and it makes me sad.
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Post Post #564 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:37 pm

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In post 546, northsidegal wrote:my understanding is that koba is something of an inflammatory player (no offense). i suggest you ignore any snipes directed at you.
Upset scum make more mistakes ;)
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Post Post #565 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:37 pm

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In post 516, jjh927 wrote:
In post 511, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:VOTE: jjh
You need to relax my guy. We get it, you're showing you're scumhunting.
Then what are you doing?
For the record I actually think this is DKKoba as scum. I'm not sure, here, because I lack the extensive game history with DKKoba to tell; it's honestly the Nancy head that I have the ability to read better and sure, when Nancy shows up, I'll have a better grasp on the slot--if my read does a total 180, it'll be because Nancy shows herself to be town.

But off of what I've seen so far, I
think
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Post Post #566 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:38 pm

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In post 563, House wrote:
In post 556, mastina wrote:
In post 505, House wrote:mastina, why am I scum?
I'm not sure you are, but you aren't feeling town to me and jjh was voting you and jjh is town here so it was the best vote I could think of.

It's also been literally years since we played together and I don't recall you being a player I could soulread even when we did play together. So I'm both a bit skeptical that I could read you well and even if I could I'm sure that ability has long since left me.

That said, I don't exactly have you as lockscum; there's a very good chance that if you're town it'll show through eventually.

It's just that right now I'm not seeing it.
Nah, I'm not buying that for one simple reason.

Our first game together, you called me town out of nowhere when I was being wagoned and sold it. Your townread of me was based on a lack of scum motive in my incredibly scummy playstyle. You had zero history with me.

That's what so impressed me about your skill. It's very rare to find a player that hunts for motive instead of pigeon-holing actions as "scummy" or "towny".

I'm not seeing that here, and it makes me sad.
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Post Post #567 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:38 pm

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I don't need to know anything about you in order to read you

It does not make my argument any less credible. I have highlighted a number of your posts with reasoning as to why you are likely to be scum here. It is this reasoning upon which my argument is based and should be evaluated as such.

My point is that you are scum
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Post Post #568 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:39 pm

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In post 565, mastina wrote:
In post 516, jjh927 wrote:
In post 511, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:VOTE: jjh
You need to relax my guy. We get it, you're showing you're scumhunting.
Then what are you doing?
For the record I actually think this is DKKoba as scum. I'm not sure, here, because I lack the extensive game history with DKKoba to tell; it's honestly the Nancy head that I have the ability to read better and sure, when Nancy shows up, I'll have a better grasp on the slot--if my read does a total 180, it'll be because Nancy shows herself to be town.

But off of what I've seen so far, I
think
that this is them as scum.
Can you ellaborate what though is your thought process in this regard?
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Post Post #569 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:39 pm

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In post 564, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:
In post 546, northsidegal wrote:my understanding is that koba is something of an inflammatory player (no offense). i suggest you ignore any snipes directed at you.
Upset scum make more mistakes ;)
and upset townies can cause losses that otherwise should have been wins. also, in general, upsetting players probably leads to a less fun game for everyone involved.
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Post Post #570 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:40 pm

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In post 567, jjh927 wrote:I don't need to know anything about you in order to read you

It does not make my argument any less credible. I have highlighted a number of your posts with reasoning as to why you are likely to be scum here. It is this reasoning upon which my argument is based and should be evaluated as such.

My point is that you are scum
This post is uncharitable
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Post Post #571 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:40 pm

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In post 563, House wrote:Nah, I'm not buying that for one simple reason.

Our first game together, you called me town out of nowhere when I was being wagoned and sold it. You're townread of me was based on a lack of scum notice in my incredibly scummy playstyle. You had zero history with me.

That's what so impressed me about your skill. It's very rare to find a player that hunts for motive instead of pigeon-holing actions as "scummy" or "towny".

I'm not seeing that here, and it makes me sad.
do you think that mastina has "pigeon-holed" you as being scummy or towny? she was pretty clear in the motivation behind her vote on you.
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Post Post #572 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:40 pm

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In post 529, jjh927 wrote:I hate over half of the posts koba has made
^
While hating posts doesn't make them inherently come from scum, in this case from Koba I think that what DKKoba is doing is actually, legitimately, genuinely, scum-indicative. There's a fair amount that I can unpack there for basically explaining why tho I feel like I should wait there until Nancy shows up. (Like I said, if the hydra is town I would expect Nancy to singlehandedly be able to 180 my read here. So, no need for me to go into detail about a scumread on DKKoba if Nancy convinces me that they are town. But if they aren't town, then I can explain why both heads feel like scum to me.)
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Post Post #573 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:42 pm

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In post 571, northsidegal wrote:
In post 563, House wrote:Nah, I'm not buying that for one simple reason.

Our first game together, you called me town out of nowhere when I was being wagoned and sold it. You're townread of me was based on a lack of scum notice in my incredibly scummy playstyle. You had zero history with me.

That's what so impressed me about your skill. It's very rare to find a player that hunts for motive instead of pigeon-holing actions as "scummy" or "towny".

I'm not seeing that here, and it makes me sad.
do you think that mastina has "pigeon-holed" you as being scummy or towny? she was pretty clear in the motivation behind her vote on you.
I never claimed nor implied mastina pigeon-holed anyone or anything.

Try again.
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Post Post #574 (ISO) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:43 pm

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In post 569, northsidegal wrote:
In post 564, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:
In post 546, northsidegal wrote:my understanding is that koba is something of an inflammatory player (no offense). i suggest you ignore any snipes directed at you.
Upset scum make more mistakes ;)
and upset townies can cause losses that otherwise should have been wins. also, in general, upsetting players probably leads to a less fun game for everyone involved.
Good thing I can identify out who the townies are that are upset before endgame then.
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