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[Titus]

VLA until Friday

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[Nero Cain]

Don't really want to suggest that Titus went v/la just b/c she is scum as she's prob busy IRL and that has nothing to do with her scum pm here but going v/la for the rest of the day phase and not unvoting seems kinda ass.

[Dragon of the West]

This duel doesn't make flawless sense from town perspective either.

Do you think he's scum that is trying to lynch nom here or town that thinks nom is scum?

Fuck I had such a long post typed out replying to this and it didn't post for some reason. After this meeting I'll rewrite it

[Nero Cain]

you might be able to hit back on your browser, it works for me sometimes.

[Nero Cain]

Nero's iso is nothing but misreps and opportunistic manipulation.

this is just scum DBG hopping on the screams of peta and nom.

I'm happy to end the day. But it's me or Nom.
I'm sure Nom is just waiting a while now to say they were busy.... but that's just convenient, don't buy it.
Plus I see the post thread view count going up so someone keeps checking in without posting.

Mind you

VFP could be bus'ing.

Is nom town or is VFP bussing?

That's what I'm trying to figure out.

I'm townreading nom, but VFP's behavior is classic bus'ing, VFP is so sure nom will flip scum and he will bask in towncred, it gives me pause.

Hey peta, what are the odds that VFP is doing a textbook day 1 bus?

y bus nom when he could have just easily mislynched me?

I suppose he could bus both his buddies.

what if i believe there is no scum between you two

What if I believe they are both scum?

Or they're both scum and one is guaranteed to bask in towncred after one dies.

I don't really agree that these are the posts of paranoid town and seem more like someone trying to imply that VFP is a busser.

You could maybe argue that 1243 comes across as paranoid but if DGB thinks that nom is getting bussed why would DGB give a fuck if VFP gets town cred for it when this isn't a mountainous game? If that's DGB's hard stance that nom is being bussed then it doesn't make sense that she's not voting nom or VFP here. I think it's like I said that she's just fence-sitting. And its not DGB's hard stance then it's fence-sitting. DGB is claiming DGB needs more "clarity" but aren't asking any questions or doing anything to achieve it.

I was also agreeing with

dgb's overdoing the whole confident call out everything they can act

if they go around accusing everyone else of being wolf it makes them look fearsome

also who in their right mind could actually think kyouko and i are both wolf

[Nero Cain]

like, idk the whole idea of DGB being too scared to eliminate in nom/vpf

IF

her position is that it's a bus b/c she's worried that nom/vpf will be town read for it seems just really fake. And if DGB doesn't hold that position then just ???

[Dwlee99]

DGB was also saying "nom is town" right up until the 1v1 was called and then it turned into "VPF is bussing"

[petapan]

it's a bizarre move too because dgb prior to that had been all about saying nom is town and defending him hard, but suddenly because of vfp's tunnel he could be scum who is being bussed. i don't see why that would be the assumption anyone goes to rather than vfp being scum pushing a townie

[petapan]

dwlee beat me to the punch in pedit but i posted it anyway

[Dragon of the West]

This duel doesn't make flawless sense from town perspective either.

Do you think he's scum that is trying to lynch nom here or town that thinks nom is scum?

That's the problem. He could be either of those things or he could be scum bussing nom.

If he's scum bussing nom - it a good lim because we get scum. But we can't just give vfp conftown just because nom flips scum
If he's scum limmng town!nom - we'd have to make sure he can't go "lol whoops my b I was wrong" to wriggle out of getting limmed. But then you're hesitant to lim him because what if it was TvT and he was just wrong. Here it's obviously a bad lim
If he's Town that just THINKS he found scum!nom - bad to do this lim (especially on day 1) as a 1v1 because if he's wrong we limmed town and now we pretty much are forced into deciding whether it was an awful town strat or scum and even if he's right we aren't gonna conftown him anyway because of the way he did it.
Frankly I'm not sold on VFPs argument against nom that makes him so sure. If anything in this scenario you'd lim vfp first since he's the one pushing for the 1v1 but even after he flips you'd have to figure out if he was bussing (if flipped scum) or if you trust him being so sure (if flipped town). Either way I don't like it. And you both are insinuating it "says a lot" about the people not voting either of them but well over half the players never voted the 1v1 so I don't really think you have a point

[Nero Cain]

thats a good point

[Dragon of the West]

you might be able to hit back on your browser, it works for me sometimes.

fucking thank you. I had to hit back like 20 times but it worked

[Titus]

VFP and I think it was Willow got into one of these fights. They both were town. I haven't had the mental focus to analyze this fight but I am disinclined to vote either slot. Doubly so because Nero wants it.

[Titus]

I'm referring to the mask large theme that ended.

[petapan]

it's not the fact that he's 1v1ing but the level of confidence he's projecting atp

[Nero Cain]

But we can't just give vfp conftown just because nom flips scum

I mean sure but like I don't really see why this is someone's worry. This isn't the matrix and VFP isn't Neo. If the nom slot were flipped today and flipped town do you think all our investigation prs are just going to go "nah" no I think VFP would be target #uno.

likewise he probs just gets lynched tomorrow unless there's an inno on him.

[Dwlee99]

What if we did a DGB wagon?

[Nero Cain]

Doubly so because Nero wants it.

I actually do not. I wouldn't blame anyone for voting VFP or nom but it's you that I want dead.

[Nero Cain]

What if we did a DGB wagon?

are there enough votes?

Why aren't you voting Titus?

[Titus]

Anya - Null started town
T3 - Only became active after my vla, gtmh town
Save The Dragons - null
Derek12 - lean scum due to no posts
Dwlee99 - I felt they were scum at first, now I am iffy. Would flip for VCA but not strong.
Dragon of the West - Town
Rathe - Would compromise here
ssbm_Kyouko - hasn't done anything since hood discussion, null
Andresvmb - What I did see I liked
Dunnstral - I don't recall him negatively. He did have posts on my vla
nomnomnom, replacing LordEvan - Raging town
DrippingGoofball - Town
Titus - Town
Nero Cain - Needs a bullet to the head
VFP, replacing hugsandchocolate - Moderate town
osuka - moderate town
petapan - I felt his intro was super scummy but him standing up to Nero is super townie

[Nero Cain]

yuck

[Dragon of the West]

Is nom town or is VFP bussing?

That's what I'm trying to figure out.

I'm townreading nom, but VFP's behavior is classic bus'ing, VFP is so sure nom will flip scum and he will bask in towncred, it gives me pause.

I don't think it's scummy of DGB to reflect on their own reads day 1 and think about if they're misreading scum, what strategy those scum could be trying
DGB: I'm townreading nom, but if I'm wrong and nom flips scum I'm worried VFP would be treated like conftown

1158 - worried about scum hiding in nom wagon. "lots of possibilities."

I really think DGB is just trying to think through the scenarios and is unsure about what the strat could be which is why their vote wasn't on the 1v1. I know I don't like the strategy for the reasons I've laid out so my vote didn't touch the 1v1

[petapan]

it looks way more like attempting to grease the wheels for making a nom vote acceptable, like why is the scenario of vfp being scum doing a shitpush on nom not considered

[Dwlee99]

What if we did a DGB wagon?

are there enough votes?

Why aren't you voting Titus?

I think I'm voting DGB that's why. More sold on that than a Titus yeet.

[Dwlee99]

Oh wait I switched to nom
VOTE: DGB
Sorry VFP