Townstumps Mafia (Endgame)

[Jingle]

Vote Count 1.07

Not Known 15 (5):

mastina, jjh927, Moongrass, nomnomnom, DrippingGoofball,

jjh927 (4):

Mia and Maya Fey, Not_Mafia, Titus, cyrus62,

Free Money Free Tea (1):

House,

Moongrass (1):

Not Known 15,

cyrus62 (1):

Gamma Emerald,

mastina (1):

Free Money Free Tea,

Mia and Maya Fey (0):

nomnomnom (0):

House (0):

Not_Mafia (0):

Gamma Emerald (0):

Titus (0):

DrippingGoofball (0):

No Euphemization (0):

Not Voting (0):

With 13 alive, it takes

7

to euphemize and

7

to have no euphemization.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2021-06-17 17:00:00). At Deadline, currently No Euphemization will occur.

[jjh927]

I'm glad we got a new votecount there since a lot has happened since 1.06

[House]

I'm glad we got a new votecount there since a lot has happened since 1.06

[Jingle]

Vote Count 1.08

Not Known 15 (5):

mastina, jjh927, Moongrass, nomnomnom, DrippingGoofball,

jjh927 (4):

Mia and Maya Fey, Not_Mafia, Titus, cyrus62,

Free Money Free Tea (1):

House,

Moongrass (1):

Not Known 15,

cyrus62 (1):

Gamma Emerald,

mastina (1):

Free Money Free Tea,

Mia and Maya Fey (0):

nomnomnom (0):

House (0):

Not_Mafia (0):

Gamma Emerald (0):

Titus (0):

DrippingGoofball (0):

No Euphemization (0):

Not Voting (0):

With 13 alive, it takes

7

to euphemize and

7

to have no euphemization.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2021-06-17 17:00:00). At Deadline, currently No Euphemization will occur.

[northsidegal]

this is a sort of curious wagon composition we have going on right now.

anyone have any thoughts on it? i have a few of my own, but i'm interested to hear other people's first

[northsidegal]

to be clear, thoughts on the composition of the wagons, not on the wagons themselves

[House]

Considering there is currently minimal risk of elimination at the moment, o doubt wagon analysis will be beneficial.

It is the risk of death that makes analysis informative.

[House]

Considering there is currently minimal risk of elimination at the moment, I doubt wagon analysis will be beneficial.

It is the risk of death that makes analysis informative.

Edit.

[northsidegal]

I disagree that valuable wagon analysis is only possible under imminent threat of death. I think there are plenty of games with plenty of counterexamples that contradict that idea.

[House]

I disagree that valuable wagon analysis is only possible under imminent threat of death. I think there are plenty of games with plenty of counterexamples that contradict that idea.

Link to a game where elimination was basically forbidden and VCA was useful, please?

[Moongrass]

I guess it's relative to reads. My only thought at this stage is I'm happier with my wagon buddies than the other lot. I think more interesting is who is not on a wagon.

Typically if NK is scum he will find a way onto the counter, the day is still young I guess. Speaking of counters, both wagons seemed to build up organically, I don't see one as being a counter wagon to the other.

If we're talking votes then I disliked Noms the most onto NK and titus on the other.

[Moongrass]

I kind of agree that scumhunting via VCA is a bit premature here however it's a good opportunity to bond over our burning dumpster fire.

[northsidegal]

i think calling it "vca" is a little misleading / missing the point - i'm moreso looking at the wagons as a whole rather than any individual votes in the context of knowing someone's alignment

although, i guess that still could be said to be vca, and to be fair i haven't even explained really what i'm thinking

[Moongrass]

Ooh please share.

[House]

As an example...

If I was scum with jjh, I could even the wagons out right now and mess with the heads of those who analyze wagons without the benefit of context(and I probably would do exactly that), because causing chaos in town benefits a scum wincon and that would give town all sorts of irrelevant things to mull over and draw horrible conclusions from (things like, "scum would never tie their buddy up on wagons, so if House is scum, jjh can't be")

When hammer actually matters, who is on what wagon actually starts getting interesting.

Actually, it might be worth watching who slides OFF wagons as the 48 hour deadline gets near.

[House]

I am the opposite

Gamma looks very much town

Yeah. A lot of people equivocation activity with town and he flew in and popped out a lot of posts at one time... without actually giving us anything to chew on.

There's no meat on all those bones.

While I disagree with House's assessment, I think both he and gamma are town.

Something's blocking my ability to read and make connections this game. It might be my work but I am wholly dissatisfied with my ability to generate reads here. I feel cyrus and gamma are town but everyone else is meh.

Can someone ask me a question about their theory in a concise post?

Titus, what happened between these two posts that changed your read of me?

[Gamma Emerald]

Will be here either in a couple hours or sometime tomorrow, but I’ve been busy with college work + other hobbies

[NorwegianboyEE]

Scum should have picked their PR’s now so an elimination can happen now.

[House]

Scum should have picked their PR’s now so an elimination can happen now.

Just looked, it's almost 12 hours after the deadline.

[House]

VOTE: Not Known 15

E-1

Let the game commence!

[NorwegianboyEE]

I wanna hear NSG’s thoughts before any hammer though.

[House]

I'm hoping everyone gets to say something before hammer is even considered.

[Moongrass]

Hope is less effective than an unvote.

[Moongrass]

UNVOTE:

[NorwegianboyEE]

this is a sort of curious wagon composition we have going on right now.

anyone have any thoughts on it? i have a few of my own, but i'm interested to hear other people's first

I feel like some slots that i read as possibly aligned are composed on the NK wagon but not on the JJ wagon.