yea I'm sure I claimed doctor in order to get my scum partner eliminated instead of me and put a timer on my own lifeIn post 4198, Guillotina wrote:For the record if Sigmund is not nightkilled tonight, he is scum, no town doctor survives more than two nights after claiming.
Why is it worse having a conviction to my own reads? Huh? Just because im town it does not mean im required to sheep others into a wagon that i dont believe in.In post 4199, Sigmund wrote:That's actually worse than saying she's town and making a case for it.In post 4197, Guillotina wrote:Eeeeh? I didnt defend Anya. I just didnt care for her yeet as much as i cared for yours or Flea. GTFOH
If you are scum you claimed doctor to buy time. No one is gonna yeet a doctor after claiming because townies cant afford to gamethrow if the claim is true, but we also assume that scum does not let a town doctor claim live because that is playing against their own wincon. When it does not happen, it always leads to that claim being a fake one from scum and i will die on that hill.In post 4200, Sigmund wrote:yea I'm sure I claimed doctor in order to get my scum partner eliminated instead of me and put a timer on my own lifeIn post 4198, Guillotina wrote:For the record if Sigmund is not nightkilled tonight, he is scum, no town doctor survives more than two nights after claiming.
that's such genius scum play.
clap clap clap
Well, im town. I would be more consistent with TMI, but unfortunately i dont have it.In post 4202, Sigmund wrote:Like I can believe a certain level of tunneledness if you thought one of me/flea was scum, but like you didn't even believe that, you kept flipping back and forth between me and flea like you couldn't make up your damn mind.
So why would you be so resistant to voting Anya when LLD/Titus expressed conviction there if all you have on your end is a 50/50?
buy time for what?In post 4204, Guillotina wrote:If you are scum you claimed doctor to buy time. No one is gonna yeet a doctor after claiming because townies cant afford to gamethrow if the claim is true, but we also assume that scum does not let a town doctor claim live because that is playing against their own wincon. When it does not happen, it always leads to that claim being a fake one from scum and i will die on that hill.
how the f did you have conviction in your reads?In post 4203, Guillotina wrote:Why is it worse having a conviction to my own reads? Huh? Just because im town it does not mean im required to sheep others into a wagon that i dont believe in.
I didn't even know I was the first one to point it out since I've literally not read a single page of D2.In post 4203, Guillotina wrote:Oh and Toog saying that im scum does not worry me because he was wrong and you implying that he is dead because he did is laughable. When i rand scum i kill real threats to my wincon, loud voices, town leaders etc. Not players with little thread presence and zero clout like Toog (no offense to the player).
The way i see it, Toog was killed so scum could point it out to incriminate me, guess who is the first to raise that up. You!
Rest my case on that matter.
Cross-examination of last VC vs Anya hammer VC makes me say that 1 scum out of {mc, ndmath} is almost guaranteed, probably not both scumIn post 3269, unwnd wrote:
I thought about the roleblocker theory but here is the thing, why not roleblock and nightkill the doctor?In post 3646, WhemeStar wrote:Thats why I think scum has a roleblocker? Thats all I could get out of it is that he was roleblocked.In post 3635, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:UhhhIn post 3630, WhemeStar wrote:Okay so my innate ability allows me to see stuff that may have happened to my target.
I target sigmund last night
I got - Alone but troubled. The scenery is filled with clouds. He tries his best, but his best was not needed.
ANYONE WANNA HELP TELL ME WTF THIS MEANS
No one visited them and they submitted an action but it was unsuccessful?
Maybe?
IDFK that is some cryptic shit
No, the role is useless if I claim. If I use the claim to survive it does nothing, people will just suspect me laterIn post 4101, Bell wrote:Yeah okay murderkitty. I think you need to rethink that not claiming thing. I suspect only morph might defend you at this point and they seem to pointedly not be doing that.
I am planning a move and trying to find subletters (hence V/LA), but luckily that is all settled nowIn post 4168, Bell wrote:Yes, same. I think he finds ways to contribute as town though that he hasn't done here. On the other hand, I am fully aware that maybe he's doing with IRL stuff and hat's adding in an additional component.
Did the same thing in death curseIn post 4189, Chara wrote:what is town murdercat going for this game? zeroing in on the anya wagon makes sense, but doing it to the exclusion of anything else, and defending the takes that didn't go down well with "but i'm only looking at anya's wagon specifically" are what i don't like.
I wasn't reaching out to youIn post 4099, Artemiana wrote:I'm not sure what i want at the moment, but what i do know is that im not going give you a pass based off a weak reach out.
And that half baked reach out doesnr make a whole lot of sense when you take this into considerationIn post 3950, Dunnstral wrote:Middle of the pack reads where I'm not taking a hard town or scum stance:
Farkran
Sigmund (They have the wagon situation and claim d1 in their favor)
Notscience
Artemenia
Flea (almost a scumread)
Your pronoun beinf unique makes it an easy identifier. Imagine me calling a person "town him" or " town her" with zero contextIn post 3973, Flea The Magician wrote:*waves* Arte just uses my pronouns instead of my name kinda cute ^_^
How did you get here from wagon analysisIn post 4001, MURDERCAT wrote: Arte – This interaction with the wagon just looks super town to me. Pushing people in that direction, but in a sort of collaborative way that reads townie to me. Maybe because I do that too as town.
Scum
LLD – Still don’t like LLD, think it was a D1 bus. The quotes that I posted in 3993 just feel off to me. I know LLD is a forceful player but it’s too confident. Like what is 2752 even saying? What in the Anya quotes makes LLD “very certain”? And the reasoning in 2709 just feels so fake to me. “There is something genuine lacking there” isn’t a real thought imo.
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I'm confused, I don't see either of these points
I feel the sameIn post 4026, Bell wrote:What I don’t get is why scum kitty would pick a fight here. Lld is fresh off a kill and I’m both defensive and easily sortable.
Other than that thoufh, im not impressed and it makea me question my earlier townreads on MC
What do you think of Irchers going against the grain here?
I don't recall that game. You sure it was Maraca?In post 4081, morph the cat wrote:We doubted the claim.
For context, Mara and Cabd hydra'd (for the first time, I think) in one of the games I played in 2013. In that game they:
- faked an inno on my hydra
- faked a neighborhood with a dead player (the dead player had dead-neighborized me on the previous game day, so it wasn't a completely out of the blue fake)
- in 3P ELO, fake-outed as a 3rd party survivor and invited the final scumplayer to also out and win together. Then hammered them
I did 2 damage to Dragons, so any other source of 1 damage would do itIn post 4216, Guillotina wrote:I thought about the roleblocker theory but here is the thing, why not roleblock and nightkill the doctor?In post 3646, WhemeStar wrote:Thats why I think scum has a roleblocker? Thats all I could get out of it is that he was roleblocked.In post 3635, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:UhhhIn post 3630, WhemeStar wrote:Okay so my innate ability allows me to see stuff that may have happened to my target.
I target sigmund last night
I got - Alone but troubled. The scenery is filled with clouds. He tries his best, but his best was not needed.
ANYONE WANNA HELP TELL ME WTF THIS MEANS
No one visited them and they submitted an action but it was unsuccessful?
Maybe?
IDFK that is some cryptic shit
Why kill Toog and STD? Std was suspected by quite a few people, scum would see that player as mischop push?
What did they do those kills instead of going for the claim PR or our town leaders?
If I was scum and i got a roleblocker, i would both roleblock and nightkill the doctor claim. This is assuming they also have a killing role, because otherwise why roleblock the doctor if the only have one kill at their disposal.
But say the have a factional and some sort of vig, I would kill the doc and someone else whom i consider important, why instead just RB the doc and kill STD and Toog? Why? What’s the connection?
Also in the OP it says that only two actions have mortal consequences, the yeet and the factional kill. So... how did one of them die? Did they get attacked by multiple people as in Mafia ganged up on them?
Or was STD who had been suspected on D1 actually ganged up by multiple townies? No. That would take coordination though. No?
Why did you attack STD?In post 4222, Dunnstral wrote:I did 2 damage to Dragons, so any other source of 1 damage would do itIn post 4216, Guillotina wrote:I thought about the roleblocker theory but here is the thing, why not roleblock and nightkill the doctor?In post 3646, WhemeStar wrote:Thats why I think scum has a roleblocker? Thats all I could get out of it is that he was roleblocked.In post 3635, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:UhhhIn post 3630, WhemeStar wrote:Okay so my innate ability allows me to see stuff that may have happened to my target.
I target sigmund last night
I got - Alone but troubled. The scenery is filled with clouds. He tries his best, but his best was not needed.
ANYONE WANNA HELP TELL ME WTF THIS MEANS
No one visited them and they submitted an action but it was unsuccessful?
Maybe?
IDFK that is some cryptic shit
Why kill Toog and STD? Std was suspected by quite a few people, scum would see that player as mischop push?
What did they do those kills instead of going for the claim PR or our town leaders?
If I was scum and i got a roleblocker, i would both roleblock and nightkill the doctor claim. This is assuming they also have a killing role, because otherwise why roleblock the doctor if the only have one kill at their disposal.
But say the have a factional and some sort of vig, I would kill the doc and someone else whom i consider important, why instead just RB the doc and kill STD and Toog? Why? What’s the connection?
Also in the OP it says that only two actions have mortal consequences, the yeet and the factional kill. So... how did one of them die? Did they get attacked by multiple people as in Mafia ganged up on them?
Or was STD who had been suspected on D1 actually ganged up by multiple townies? No. That would take coordination though. No?
In post 4172, Bell wrote:*raises eyebrows*In post 4170, morph the cat wrote:I am fully down to power pivot Ircher for that post.
It's about as blatant of a "forcing a narrative" post example as one can get.
P.S. Notsci you're drastically running out of do-nothing-free coupons.
I feel like he has infinite coupons since he's town.
In post 4173, morph the cat wrote:Ffery past-day-one paranoia waits for no mortal.
